Girls below the age of 22 do not have a clue about what life is about. In some it even takes longer.

The other side of the story is that men take even longer to know about life. a girl 23 would have a hard time finding a man that's under like 28 that is really ready for marriage.

nadie wrote:
Girls below the age of 22 do not have a clue about what life is about. In some it even takes longer.


Tele answered:That is a meaningless statement bub.  There are plenty of women who've married well before 22 who have lived exemplary family lives.  There are plenty of women who marry after 22 who live less than exemplary family lives.  In fact, I would bet that there are more traditional Catholic women marrying early who live exemplary lives than those who marry late.

nadie responds: I was talking about 99% of women today. In my experience it also applies to trads, who represent like 0% of the girls out in the world. What experience do you have?  


Nadie: The other side of the story is that men take even longer to know about life. a girl 23 would have a hard time finding a man that's under like 28 that is really ready for marriage.


Tele answered: And yet if you're 32 they will pretend you're old at some of these chapels.  They really are insane.  There views of life are impregnated with feminist, modern assumptions, and tradition is just a veneer that flakes off.

Nadie responds: I was in an SSPX chapel, and I was 22 years older than my wife. I was 45 wnen we met. You just have to know what you are doing. I had "offers" from girls 22 and 18 when I was 44, at the same chapel.

You are just making up excuses for your failures, instead of learning from them. If the parents and parishioners heard you speak as you write here, then I can see why thy rejected you. Learn from your mistakes, and don't do them again.

Just for reference, this is how Nadie started his interaction with me on this thread:

Some advice from a Hugh Hefner clone, that came back to the faith at 40, and married at 47, married a girl he met at the traditonal mass, that is 22 years younger than him (and looks like a Dallas Cowboy cheerleader).

Girls below the age of 22 do not have a clue about what life is about. In some it even takes longer. You have to get them after they are convinced that the nightlife, and "partying", is a huge deception. It's one thing to be a pagan, who can skip from one girl to the other, they can go for the "18 year olds", or whatever is legal, and NEVER marry one (Why would they want to?)  It's another thing for real Catholics, who marry for LIFE! You don't want to marry an 18 year old that will later change 180 degrees and divorce you to go off and "live life", and do the nightlife, and "partying". AND you'll be stuck the rest of your life living a celibate life.

Have patience and God will provide you with what you need to save your soul.


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It's one thing to be a pagan, who can skip from one girl to the other, they can go for the "18 year olds", or whatever is legal, and NEVER marry one (Why would you want to?)


PS- I followed my own advice, and had never married, till I marrried my wife.

In other words, we're supposed to let young Catholic women get some bitter experiences with the men that Nadie used to be like until they're ready to "settle" with some Catholic man.  

Well, that's not traditional, that's not Catholic, it's not the way Catholics viewed such questions in the past, not how Catholic societies dealt with such issues in the past.

But for loud-mouthed trads like Feeneyites it makes perfect sense.

Feeneyism is very American in its sensibilities.

There's actually a a new idiom for letting young women have their time to "mature" to see the hollowness of "night life"

It's called "riding the carousel"

Many so-called traditional conservatives value the worldly esteem and superficial reputation of their daughters, spoil them rotten, let them drink to stinking to excess, send them to college "to party" and to Europe to meet strange men, while threatening to sic the police on a man at church with honest intentions.

They pretend the superficial reputation is the reality, in their hearts they know it's not.  But that's what they care about, their social position in these little church cliques.  The last thing they're going to do is hold their daughters accountable, teach them honesty, encourage them to marry before college, etc.

Not all trads are like that.  But many many are.  Especially those with money.

And we know what sort of Trad the SSPX favors.

Another Tele pity party?

I bumped the thread by posting this as an example a man who is only 3 or 4 years my senior, whose mother was 14 when she met and married his 21 year old father.

Now, Nadie saw the thread as a pretext to boast about how once he was a Hugh Hefner Clone who married a girl 22 years younger than himself, and how he has plenty of "experience" with 18 year olds, enough that he know he doesn't want to marry them.  

Now I find that insufferable.  I suppose you weren't so keen on maniacally defending Father Feeney's schismatic errors when you were in your twenties doing what you were doing then.  

I doubt Nadie was either.

I doubt you were kicked out of Church and branded as deluded creep either by lying hypocrites though.

I agree, Tele isn't really interested in finding a wife, he just wants to make excuses to assuage the guilt he feels over being called out in public.

You aren't really interested in discussing the topic.  That's evident.  You are interested in branding me.  Having me be "called out in public" (what is that a reference to?)

He looks at the entire world, which includes the SSPX, through the lens of a single unpleasant social rejection,

I look at how people react to the story, then I begin to understand how phony trads are.

 

and it don't matter how effective, well-intentioned or kind the advice is.

So it's good for women to be disillusioned with "night life" before they marry?  It's bad for 18 year old girls to marry?  I don't consider that effective, well-intentioned, kind, decent.  I consider it idiocy.

If you don't agree with Tele about how the world set him up to fail, you're anti-Tele.

If you agree with the injustice now that I disagree with Feeneyism and am a sede, and can't handle knowing your arguments are wretched, maybe you start belittling me and deriding me for making the point about how insane these modern attitudes are.

then I begin to understand how phony trads are.

They aren't all phony.  But it's surprising, I would say a majority of posters on these sites (not this one) are pretty much moderns with a trad veneer.

Dear Tele,

I can't say anything to you that you won't twist into something else. I tried to offer you some advice and you turn it against me.  I'm sorry that I ever wrote one word to you. Needless to say it is the last time I will ever write to help another anonymous man on the internet.

It was really silly of me to try to help someone that I know so little about. My mistake, I'm inexperienced on this "blogging" stuff.



God Bless,

A complete waste of time, inmho.