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Offline Telesphorus

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« on: February 24, 2013, 07:29:14 AM »
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  • Quote from: Leo XIII
    4. The question at issue is assuredly one of the highest and most serious importance. The decisions arrived at seven years ago on the school question by the Parliament of the province of Manitoba must be remembered. The Act of Union of the Confederation had secured to Catholics the right to be educated in the public schools according to their consciences; and yet this right the Parliament of Manitoba abolished by a contrary law. This is a noxious law. For our children cannot go for instruction to schools which either ignore or of set purpose combat the Catholic religion, or in which its teachings are despised and its fundamental principles repudiated. Wherever the Church has allowed this to be done, it has only been with pain and through necessity, at the same time surrounding her children with many safeguards which, nevertheless it has been too often recognized have been insufficient to cope successfully with the danger attending it. Similarly it is necessary to avoid at all costs, as most dangerous, those schools in which all beliefs are welcomed and treated as equal, as if, in what regards God and divine things, it makes no difference whether one believes rightly or wrongly, and takes up with truth or error. You know well, Venerable Brethren, that every school of this kind has been condemned by the Church, because nothing can be more harmful or better calculated to ruin the integrity of the faith and to turn aside the tender minds of the young from the way of truth.


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    « Reply #1 on: February 24, 2013, 01:18:54 PM »
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  • I wasn't aware of this quote. Thanks, Tele!
    Please ignore ALL of my posts. I was naive during my time posting on this forum and didn’t know any better. I retract and deeply regret any and all uncharitable or erroneous statements I ever made here.


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    « Reply #2 on: April 08, 2013, 02:39:56 AM »
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  • Education is often heresy under the name of education.




    Francis is an Antipope. Pray that God will grant us a good Pope and save the Church.
    I abjure and retract my schismatic support of the evil CMRI.Thuc condemned the Thuc nonbishops
    "Now, therefore, we declare, say, determine and pronounce that for every human creature it is necessary for salvation to be subject to the authority of the Roman Pontiff"-Pope Boniface VIII.
    If you think Francis is Pope,do you treat him like an Antipope?
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    « Reply #3 on: April 09, 2013, 07:26:35 PM »
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  • A good find!
    Sincerely,

    Shin

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    « Reply #4 on: April 10, 2013, 11:22:46 AM »
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  • Sounds just like our public schools.
    Sounds just like the NO schools.

    What a mess we are in now.

    Marsha


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    « Reply #5 on: April 10, 2013, 11:45:47 AM »
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  • Quote from: Telesphorus
    Quote from: Leo XIII
    4. The question at issue is assuredly one of the highest and most serious importance. The decisions arrived at seven years ago on the school question by the Parliament of the province of Manitoba must be remembered. The Act of Union of the Confederation had secured to Catholics the right to be educated in the public schools according to their consciences; and yet this right the Parliament of Manitoba abolished by a contrary law. This is a noxious law. For our children cannot go for instruction to schools which either ignore or of set purpose combat the Catholic religion, or in which its teachings are despised and its fundamental principles repudiated. Wherever the Church has allowed this to be done, it has only been with pain and through necessity, at the same time surrounding her children with many safeguards which, nevertheless it has been too often recognized have been insufficient to cope successfully with the danger attending it. Similarly it is necessary to avoid at all costs, as most dangerous, those schools in which all beliefs are welcomed and treated as equal, as if, in what regards God and divine things, it makes no difference whether one believes rightly or wrongly, and takes up with truth or error. You know well, Venerable Brethren, that every school of this kind has been condemned by the Church, because nothing can be more harmful or better calculated to ruin the integrity of the faith and to turn aside the tender minds of the young from the way of truth.


    Thanks for posting this. I must admit- between my wife and I, we feel inadequately prepared to homeschool our children. I 'had' hoped to send them to the local SSPX school, but I'm not so sure that's a great idea now. Please ask God and our Blessed MOther, and St. Anne to help my wife and I carry this cross.

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    « Reply #6 on: April 10, 2013, 12:42:07 PM »
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  • Pardon my ignorance, but are the SSPX schools incorporating modernism now?  

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    « Reply #7 on: April 10, 2013, 01:00:59 PM »
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    Pardon my ignorance, but are the SSPX schools incorporating modernism now?  


    I don't think so, personally. I know some here would disagree and I believe I remember reading some saying they've seen/heard of things at their local schools. Our priest, Fr. Cooper, would be one of the last to do such a thing in my opinion. I suppose the next few years will determine what is to come of the SSPX-Rome agreement.

    I may be acting overly cautious as well.


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    « Reply #8 on: April 10, 2013, 01:13:18 PM »
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    I may be acting overly cautious as well.


    Overly cautious in ruling out the SSPX school as non-option.

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    « Reply #9 on: April 10, 2013, 02:01:53 PM »
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  • I would think that finding other like-minded homeschoolers to help would make a difference.

    I've believed in homeschooling since I attended school.

    Children shouldn't be put through the typical school.

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    « Reply #10 on: April 10, 2013, 04:27:46 PM »
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    I would think that finding other like-minded homeschoolers to help would make a difference.


    Yes, I could agree. For now, the only ones I know are protestant; there's a good protestant man at work whose wife homeschools his 3 children. I haven't spoken to any of the families at church who do. Only recently have I attended the SSPX chapel with the school (Arcadia). I was attending an independent chapel prior, but the priest moved up north. Perhaps with time I will meet some other families.


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    « Reply #11 on: April 10, 2013, 05:00:44 PM »
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    I may be acting overly cautious as well.


    Overly cautious in ruling out the SSPX school as non-option.


    I think an SSPX school would be an outstanding option.  

    However, I think choosing a NO school is actually worse than a public school.  At the public school the teachers are openly hostile to religion and you can spot this a mile away - and you can your youngest children to spot this a mile away.  The novus ordo is deceitful and counterfeit and is adept at fooling the unwary.

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    « Reply #12 on: April 10, 2013, 05:19:53 PM »
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  • Quote from: Fr. Felix Sarda Salvany, Liberalism is a sin
    4. Secular education: To gain the child is to secure the man. To educate a generation apart from God and the Church is to feed the fires of Liberalism to repletion. When religion is divorced from the school, Liberalism becomes its paramour. Secularism is naturalism, the denial of the supernatural. When that denial is instilled into the soul of the child, the soil of the supernatural becomes sterilized.

    Liberalism has realized the terrific power of education and with satanic energy is now striving, the world over, for the possession of the child. (With what success we have only to look around us to realize.) In its effort to slay Christ, it decrees the slaughter of the innocents. "Snatch the soul of the child from the breast of its mother the Church," says Liberalism, "and I will conquer the world." Here is the real battleground between faith and infidelity. He who is victor here is victor everywhere

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    The Catholic school: With all your power support the Catholic school, in deed and in word, with your whole heart and your whole soul. The Catholic school has become in this age the only secure bridge of the Faith from generation to generation. In our own country, we have been compelled to establish our own schools, unaided and alone. The prejudice and intolerance of Liberalism has refused us common justice. While we protest against the wrong and never cease demanding our right, our clear and peremptory duty is to provide the best possible schools of our own, where our children may be educated in the full and only true sense of the word. Where Catholic schools are needed, build them, build them, build them! Never tire in this absolutely necessary work. Bend every energy to it.

    Archbishop Hughes said, "Not until I have built my school shall one stone of my Cathedral be laid upon another' " This great prelate fully realized what every Catholic today should take as his motto, "The foundation of the parish church is the schoolhouse'" Be the support of the school a burden, be it built and perpetuated at a great sacrifice, its value is beyond estimation, the burden and the sacrifice are featherweights in comparison to the good that arises from the Catholic school. The spiritual life of a parish without a school is tepid, neither hot nor cold. Let the school be the best possible. Too much time or too much care cannot be given to it, for Catholic education amidst the deluge of Liberalism—which has overwhelmed the world—is the ark of salvation.

    Speak out fearlessly on this matter of education. Say squarely and frankly that irreligious education leads to the devil. An irreligious school is the school of Satan. Danton, a celebrated French revolutionist, continually cried, "Boldness! More boldness!" But we, for our part, must let our constant cry be, "Frankness! Frankness! Light! Light!" Nothing will more quickly put to flight the legions of Hell, who seduce only under the shelter of darkness.

    "Never will anyone who says his Rosary every day become a formal heretic ... This is a statement I would sign in my blood." St. Montfort, Secret of the Rosary. I support the FSSP, the SSPX and other priests who work for the restoration of doctrinal orthodoxy and liturgical orthopraxis in the Church. I accept Vatican II if interpreted in the light of Tradition and canonisations as an infallible declaration that a person is in Heaven. Sedevacantism is schismatic and Ecclesiavacantism is heretical.

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    « Reply #13 on: April 10, 2013, 08:52:57 PM »
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  • Quote from: s2srea
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    I would think that finding other like-minded homeschoolers to help would make a difference.


    Yes, I could agree. For now, the only ones I know are protestant; there's a good protestant man at work whose wife homeschools his 3 children. I haven't spoken to any of the families at church who do. Only recently have I attended the SSPX chapel with the school (Arcadia). I was attending an independent chapel prior, but the priest moved up north. Perhaps with time I will meet some other families.


    When our oldest was young, like 2, I started following several blogs of moms who homeschool -- perferably Catholic and even better if they're Trads. When you don't go out much (like me) and you see these families every day via their blogs, you almost start to think homeschooling is very popular and everyone is doing it!

     :wink:

    Joking aside, following a handful of blogs in this manner not only built up confidence in my ability to homeschool, but also helped me choose what our homeschooling would attempt to look like.
    "I think that Catholicism, that's as sane as people can get."  - Jordan Peterson

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    « Reply #14 on: April 10, 2013, 09:58:07 PM »
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  • I've heard that SSPX schools don't provide great education.

    Besides, even if SSPX schools haven't been liberalized yet, I'm sure it's only a matter of time. Homeschooling is the way to go.
    Please ignore ALL of my posts. I was naive during my time posting on this forum and didn’t know any better. I retract and deeply regret any and all uncharitable or erroneous statements I ever made here.