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Offline Angel9

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« on: January 20, 2013, 09:50:20 PM »
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  • I have had this long time dream to become an actress to live in Hollywood. I am not sure that this might be a good idea for my Catholic life. But if I was to become an actress I would were skirts, go to church regulary, and be a good role model. Let alone I find acting fun, something I enjoy, talent, and something I would like to do for my life.
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    Offline 1st Mansion Tenant

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    « Reply #1 on: January 20, 2013, 09:54:33 PM »
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    I would were skirts, go to church regulary, and be a good role model.  



    ... and probably either starve for lack of work or fall in with the wrong people and find your standards slipping....just sayin'


    Offline Nathan

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    « Reply #2 on: January 20, 2013, 11:15:31 PM »
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  • Quote from: Angel9
    I have had this long time dream to become an actress to live in Hollywood. I am not sure that this might be a good idea for my Catholic life. But if I was to become an actress I would were skirts, go to church regulary, and be a good role model. Let alone I find acting fun, something I enjoy, talent, and something I would like to do for my life.
    Advice wanted!   :confused1:


    I understand your plight.  Vocation discernment (general) in the 21st century usually results in a dilemma.  I know this because I am facing the same issue.  You don't want to bury your talents, but use them (as you should) to serve God and society.  I am not going to suggest a solution, since it ultimately rests on your shoulders to decide (guided by Grace and the desire to do God's Will).  I wish to only give you a few things to consider.

    First, look at others who have gone to Hollywood (especially the Catholics, which are rare).  What kind of moral life did they lead, or are living?  Will there be enough people to mutually support you in your Faith, especially since you wouldn't have your own husband and family (you can't have both) to do so?

    Second, perhaps you can try to find an alternative?  What I mean is, an acting profession that maybe uses Hollywood, but is a private company making halfway decent movies (I haven't heard of many, unfortunately).  Something apart from mainstream "Hollywood".  I don't know.

    Pray (which I'm sure you do).  Read Scripture often.  There is much to aid discernment in these practices.  "What does it profit a man if he gain the whole world..."

    Take courage, and don't let yourself become too discouraged by those that have already experienced the bitter rejection of the world for being Christ's followers.

    We have God on our side.

    May God bless you.  You're in my prayers.

    Offline Tiffany

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    « Reply #3 on: January 20, 2013, 11:26:53 PM »
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  • Marry, have children, and volunteer to  be in charge of the local homeschool theater group. The homeschooled teens in this area love theater.

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    « Reply #4 on: January 20, 2013, 11:36:46 PM »
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  • One thing to do is go to this website:
    Tumblar House
    and scroll down and listen to their talk on Hollywood.  It is a free download.

    Also, why Hollywood?  Are they making God honoring movies?  The last time I checked it was blood, guts, and skin. (and other assorted themes that will remain unnamed)  The environment that you place yourself will exert enormous influence on you, (remember poor Mel Gibson?) be sure you place yourself in a good environment.

    If you think you might really enjoy acting then try a local theater that does productions for children, kids theater is a BLAST !

    Marsha


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    « Reply #5 on: January 21, 2013, 12:00:30 AM »
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  • Quote from: Angel9
    I have had this long time dream to become an actress to live in Hollywood. I am not sure that this might be a good idea for my Catholic life. But if I was to become an actress I would were skirts, go to church regulary, and be a good role model. Let alone I find acting fun, something I enjoy, talent, and something I would like to do for my life.
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    That is a dream that betrays a lot of vanity and naivety.

    Do you expect to have a Catholic family life, to be a Catholic mother, as an actress?

    Do you ever analyze why such an ambition is so common and often leads to such pathetic results?

    Anyway, don't take my criticism too hard - absurdly high ambitions based on ridiculous vanity are common among people your age.


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    « Reply #6 on: January 21, 2013, 12:13:25 AM »
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  • Angel, Kathryn Bigelow is the one woman among 83 Oscar winners in history for Best Director.  

    Ben Affleck and Jim Caviezel ( Christ in "The Passion" ) are the only two male actors I can think of with both an intellect and integrity. The ONLY two.

    And not one single female actress.

    Great odds, eh?  And even Bigelow had to start out doing vampire crap to get her foot in the door before her success in the military thriller market.

    Hollywood is a tool of the mind-shapers who work with international manufacturing, consumer, political, technology, media and governmental giants to mold people into consumers of an array of goods and services, political agendae and anti-Catholic cultural systems of belief.

    Period.

    You want to act?  So do at least a MILLION other equally good-looking, smart, hard working, "talented" youngsters.  And what they are willing to give away, barter or sell outright is nothing you, as a child of God and the object of His every holy desire for your sanctity and eternal life with Him, can probably even imagine - thank God.

    Please, since your note was quite touching, do me and - most importantly YOURSELF - a great, great favor.

    Pray with true ardor - right now - for this "desire" to leave you and never return.

    Please.

    You will NEVER regret NOT becoming an actress in Hollywood.  But I can almost guarantee you 110% you will either lose your salvation or your mind ( and many lose both! ) if you DO try.

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    « Reply #7 on: January 21, 2013, 12:24:10 AM »
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    Quote from: Angel9
    I have had this long time dream to become an actress to live in Hollywood. I am not sure that this might be a good idea for my Catholic life. But if I was to become an actress I would were skirts, go to church regulary, and be a good role model. Let alone I find acting fun, something I enjoy, talent, and something I would like to do for my life.
                                                 Advice wanted!   :confused1:


    That is a dream that betrays a lot of vanity and naivety.

    Do you expect to have a Catholic family life, to be a Catholic mother, as an actress?

    Do you ever analyze why such an ambition is so common and often leads to such pathetic results?

    Anyway, don't take my criticism too hard - absurdly high ambitions based on ridiculous vanity are commoln among people your age.



    Tele, your advice is fine but, ummm, this is a young LADY and, well, I think you can guess the rest.....
     
    ( Thank heavens you are not an MD! You'd be a real "hit" delivering bad news in a child oncology ward! )

    A "touch" of gentleness is not always out of place, my friend. Especially in dealing with a young LADY, ahem! ahem!

    I can picture poor Angel as she read your "fraternal correction"....

     :faint:



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    « Reply #8 on: January 21, 2013, 06:51:51 AM »
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  • I thought Tele was pretty restrained and his advice was very good.

    When people come out with immature nonsense you have to tell them it is nonsense.  For every piece of advice like Tele's there are 100 voices screaming, "believe in the power of your dreams". So being restrained generally does not help as your voice is lost in all the positivism.

    If a Catholic man said he wanted to become a missionary and tour the red-light districts of the third world to 'convert' the prostitutes I would tell him it was a very stupid idea.  The dream of this young woman/girl is equally daft and she knows it, deep down, which is why she asked the question.

    There is a 0.0001 percent chance that this girl could become a famous Catholic actress with enough power to name her own movies and a way above 50 percent chance that she would fail to ever get anywhere, and only give up when her looks faded or her money ran out.

    I know a women who was a talented singer who had a similar "dream" and wasted 7 prime years and came under all sorts of pressure for sɛҳuąƖ favours from music producers and promoters and moral compromises; some of which she gave in to.  No record contract no fame, she ended up working as a receptionist in a brothel to pay the bills.  She is now a single mother aged 40 living in a cheap suburb outside of Sydney and a practicing Catholic.

    Anyone who needs to ask the question she did and is naive enough to think they can make it, Hollywood will eat, chew and spit out.

    Offline Nathan

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    « Reply #9 on: January 21, 2013, 10:29:45 AM »
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  • ggreg,

    I see your point, but hard advice with cold insults usually just hurts the person and turns them away.

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    « Reply #10 on: January 21, 2013, 11:21:35 AM »
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    ggreg,

    I see your point, but hard advice with cold insults usually just hurts the person and turns them away.


    Thank you.

    Let's save the "Gunny Highway" act for heresiarchs, perverts and politicians. :drillsergeant:

    A young LADY ( not a foreign term in MOST Trad vocabularies ) deserves  a DECENT, courteous explanation.  At least, the first time she is addressed.

    A man who has faced REAL combat, not some merely ideologically-driven banter in a classroom or or the internet, is usually pretty grateful for the opportunity to show a little of the grace of civilization toward the weaker, gentler sex.  He knows where and when, and against whom, to turn up the heat if necessary.

    Editors make a very big deal out of reminding their novelist clientele that, given the choice in a particular scene, it is always preferable to SHOW, rather than TELL, the reader whatever the point of the scene is.

    Seems, despite themselves, not a few editors may have gotten onto the secret of parables.

    Some of those have lasted quite a bit longer than even the "best of the best" best sellers in history. ( And, to my chagrin, as ggreg's terribly sharp mind will catch instantly, my own responsive post to Angela had much too much "telling" in it, as well. )

    Why? Because folks naturally remember stories, scenes, etc. far longer than a cold recitation of hard, objective information.
     
    As for actually communicating with someone looking for our advice, even the most sweltering, miserably overheated soul on the hottest day of the year would more likely prefer to be cooled down with a light spray than hit with a fire hose.


    Offline ServusSpiritusSancti

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    « Reply #11 on: January 21, 2013, 11:37:46 AM »
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  • Quote from: Angel9
    I have had this long time dream to become an actress to live in Hollywood. I am not sure that this might be a good idea for my Catholic life. But if I was to become an actress I would were skirts, go to church regulary, and be a good role model. Let alone I find acting fun, something I enjoy, talent, and something I would like to do for my life.
    Advice wanted!   :confused1:


    People who become famous tend to lose their souls. Numerous Saints have said that we should despise fame and fortune.
    Please ignore ALL of my posts. I was naive during my time posting on this forum and didn’t know any better. I retract and deeply regret any and all uncharitable or erroneous statements I ever made here.

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    « Reply #12 on: January 21, 2013, 11:56:02 AM »
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  • Ok then Angel.  I will rephrase to please the other members of the forum.

    If you are beautiful and talented enough to make it in Hollywood and holy enough not to lose your soul doing so, then you also quite literally have your pick of the best male catches out there in the Kingdom of Tradom.  You can marry a young handsome man with a rich family who will support him, with first class career prospects and have a comfortable life with plenty of support to be a first class Catholic mother.  You can have au pairs, live in nannies etc. and concentrate all your energy on raising great and well formed children.

    If you go to Hollywood and succeed many of these same excellent men would not want to marry you.  Which sober man wants a film star as a wife with all the problems that entails.  At 30 when your looks start to fade you will need to choose from men in their 30s.

    If you're not beautiful and talented enough then you are chasing rainbows.

    If you are not holy enough you will almost certainly lose your faith.

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    « Reply #13 on: January 21, 2013, 12:26:11 PM »
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    ggreg,

    I see your point, but hard advice with cold insults usually just hurts the person and turns them away.


    I didn't see any cold insults in Tele's response.  I saw the words vanity and pride.  Is using the proper terms for things now considered a "cold insult"?

    Tele and I don't see eye to eye always but if he was advising my kid sister and said what he said above I would pat him on the back for it.

    Soft-soaping the truth over the last 40 years has lead to Gen-Y immaturity.  I find it very hard to hire employees now from this generation because they've grown up always being pandered to.  I have to resort to places in the world where liberalism has not destroyed the minds of their parents.

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    « Reply #14 on: January 21, 2013, 12:44:52 PM »
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    One thing to do is go to this website:
    Tumblar House
    and scroll down and listen to their talk on Hollywood.  It is a free download.

    Also, why Hollywood?  Are they making God honoring movies?  The last time I checked it was blood, guts, and skin. (and other assorted themes that will remain unnamed)  The environment that you place yourself will exert enormous influence on you, (remember poor Mel Gibson?) be sure you place yourself in a good environment.

    If you think you might really enjoy acting then try a local theater that does productions for children, kids theater is a BLAST !

    Marsha


    Take the good advice and counsel of people in this thread.

    Hollywood is wholly controlled by ʝʊdɛօ-freemasonic forces, and that is no conspiracy theory.  The whole stinking city of LA is one big architectural tribute to Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ, including the diocesan temple of Mahoney.  Just about every product that comes from that cesspool has a specific agenda and it's not to honor the God you are obliged to serve.  You would be serving their god, whether or not you dressed nicely and went to Mass, as you stated.

    Examine your conscience - it sounds like your 'dream' to be famous is a means to embellish your pride.  We all struggle with this temptation.  Trust in the Holy Ghost to guide you.  He will not fail.