Author Topic: Adult Confirmation Class in Novus Ordo Church (Read 12146 times)

Luker · « **Reply #60 on:** March 02, 2014, 12:02:29 AM »

Hello AgnesRoma

I just went through what you are going through a couple of years ago. I did the 'RCIA' in a novus ordo diocese but converted promptly to Tradition and now attend a SSPX chapel. I would recommend you follow the advice received here and find a good traditional chapel either SSPX, CMRI, or FSSP whichever offers orthodox teaching and the true sacraments.

I was already reading about tradition and the Tridentine Mass while I was converting, but I thought "oh well, I am almost done this RCIA thing, I'll just sort it out after" My honest opinion is to RUN, not walk to the nearest traditional chapel! It will be much better for you and your wife in the long run! GET the Traditional and orthodox teaching and traditional rite of confirmation! You will be happy you did!

Luke

AgnesRoma · « **Reply #61 on:** March 02, 2014, 02:37:28 AM »

test is refer to SSPX at Arcadia , to get confirmed. a woman at SSPX Arcadia told me one of the condition is to pass the test for adult confirmation.

at OLHC what I understand each priest can set and decide what rule that who can take communion or not. some priest allow us to take communion, some wanted us to learn more about traditional teaching, before we take communion at his mass. I do agree we do not know everything about traditional teaching.

so , we were going to OLHC on the Sunday,if Mass offered by the priest allow us to take communion. And went to Diocese Mass, on the Sunday when the mass is offered by the priest do not allow us to take communion.
however, we got out of sync after a while, and did not know who is offering the mass on that Sunday, so we start to go to Diocese Mass more often. and now, we found out Church in Irvine ( St. Thomas More ) offer Latin Mass on every second Sunday, so we start to go there every second Sunday.

Quote from: Thorn

Frances, AgnesRoma's post was a bit confusing. Yes, I think one priest at OLHC said one thing about communion & another said something else. That church,sadly, has problems. But as far as the written test - that (I think) is in reference to the SSPX. I think that you must pass a test to see if you know the material before you can be confirmed. Whether that test is written or oral I don't know. EVERYONE must be tested, not just AgnesRoma. I do believe that's standard procedure, isn't it? That's why I didn't think that they should be rushing into Confirmation, but to be better prepared. After all, you're being asked to be soldiers of Christ!

AgnesRoma · « **Reply #62 on:** March 02, 2014, 02:59:42 AM »

that is very Good. I am also convert in 1993. my wife is born and baptized Catholic as infant, but stop going to church in her 20's ( 1980's )

when I was taking RICA class. our teacher was theology professor from Notre Dame University, his catechism was much more traditional compare to today's Catechism taught by liberal lay person. and the Priest had knowledge , while lay person does not have as much knowledge as priest and often Lay person teach wrong which are actual against Catholic teaching. my RCIA priest always explained difference before and after Vatican 2.
it seems like , today's RCIA is more of social club, they like to discuss what we think and feel about it. problem that we are attending such liberal class is that our opinion of Catholic teaching are very different and often exactly opposite from what lay teacher is teaching , so we becoming sort of outcast. and my wife says our teacher is getting irritated from us. I think our lay teacher was not expected people like us show up in his class. my wife did not know much about Catholicism at until 2011, but between class offered at OLHC in Garden Grove, and Michael Voris , she learned a lot in relatively short time of 3 years. now she read book like Anne Katherine Emmerich, St Augustine, so on. light bulb turned on several years ago for her. because, before that time she never care much about religion or Church.
now, she is concern about her eternal soul.

we never had opportunity to attend Latin Mass until 2011.
Internet is great things, I can learn so much from Internet. I can read Papal encyclicals, Canon Laws 1983, 1917 or even older. we learn a lot from Michael Voris video, we signed up for $10 a month membership , and have been watching for 3 years now.

unfortunately, we don't have SSPX or FSSP in within 1 hour drive. we have OLHC near , and rest of Latin Mass are all Diocese.
most other parts of US 60 miles is a short trip, but here in Southern CA, 60 miles can take more than 2 hours because of traffic congestion, and it is unpredictable.

thanks for reply.

Quote from: Luker

Hello AgnesRoma

I just went through what you are going through a couple of years ago. I did the 'RCIA' in a novus ordo diocese but converted promptly to Tradition and now attend a SSPX chapel. I would recommend you follow the advice received here and find a good traditional chapel either SSPX, CMRI, or FSSP whichever offers orthodox teaching and the true sacraments.

I was already reading about tradition and the Tridentine Mass while I was converting, but I thought "oh well, I am almost done this RCIA thing, I'll just sort it out after" My honest opinion is to RUN, not walk to the nearest traditional chapel! It will be much better for you and your wife in the long run! GET the Traditional and orthodox teaching and traditional rite of confirmation! You will be happy you did!

Luke

PG · « **Reply #63 on:** March 03, 2014, 12:49:18 PM »

Neil Obstat - I am sorry for taking a swipe at you. I just hate reading from computer screens, and some of your posts are way too long/repetitive for what material is actually there. It pushes me over the edge. It is still however no excuse.

Thorn · « **Reply #64 on:** March 23, 2014, 01:53:18 PM »

Well, Neil, it's been almost a month now since you posted that Fr. Perez has TWO BISHOPS & I asked for an explanation. Instead of an answer you posted some nasty things about me.

Trust me, there's more than just little ol' me wondering about this TWO bishops thing. Care to clarify? The silence is deafening and rather strange. You usually post at the drop of a hat. Did you regret posting about 2 bishops? Did Fr. tell you to leave it alone? Is it true? Who are these 2 bishops and why does he have 2? I think we deserve to know what's up with that. AgnesRoma deserves to know what kind of church you're pushing them to join.
Thanks

InfiniteFaith · « **Reply #65 on:** March 23, 2014, 03:30:20 PM »

Quote from: AgnesRoma

Hello, we live in Southern California , Orange County, CA
my wife signed up for Adult Confirmation Class at near by church ( Diocese church )
and we have been taking about 4 weeks of this class now.

here is the problem we have.

Adult Confirmation Class is taught by Lay Person, not priest.
and he teach very liberal Catholicism. such as, gαy is OK, everybody go to Heaven, using Father Barron's video.

he also use that Pope said "who are there to judge gαy" as that he suggest now Catholic church tech ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ are no longer sin, so on.

he says this at end of every class we had.

it is painful to listen to Father Barron's talk on Video, and as much painful to listen to Adult confirmation lay teacher's very liberal opinion.

his class is questions and answer session, often we answer that apply to Latin Mass, but not Novus Ordo mass.

such as what is the first reading ? "Epistle ?" "What is That ?"
"what priest wear under vest during mass ?", "Alb" "No" I did not know Novus ordo priest do not wear Alb.

so on. and we often answer wrong because of our unfamiliarity with Novus Ordo Mass. and tradition.

my wife say , our teacher is start to get irritated with us.

we are not sure, if we should continue to attend this adult confirmation class or not at this point.

do you all have any suggestion.

we usually attend Latin Mass offered by Diocese in Orange County, CA
but, we are possibly thinking about get confirmation from SSPX, but nearest SSPX church is in Alahambra, more than 1 hour away.

I personally believe that people who say ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity is genetic and OK should be lined up on the firing squad. I have also had a priest tell me that before too. He was trying to say that in the case that ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity is genetic (which it is not) then ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity is ok. There is absolutely nothing that says that it is genetic other than gαys who want to be accepted for their lifestyle. And then for some strange reason non-ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs say the same thing even though they have no idea what its like to have ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ feelings and thoughts.

Thorn · « **Reply #66 on:** March 23, 2014, 04:57:38 PM »

The burning question still is: What 2 bishops is Fr. Perez under & who are they???

Thorn · « **Reply #67 on:** March 24, 2014, 01:35:21 AM »

Calling Neil Obstat! CALLING NEIL OBSTAT!! Are you here or did you disappear? HELLO!
Can you answer the question so we can put it to rest? What's the problem?

Thorn · « **Reply #68 on:** March 30, 2014, 05:51:37 PM »

Keep silent, Neil. That gives me & others the answer to the questions about Fr. Perez.