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Adult Confirmation Class in Novus Ordo Church
« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2014, 07:01:36 AM »
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The church where you're going isn't One, Holy, Roman, Catholic.  Better to study alone and pray than stay.  

Adult Confirmation Class in Novus Ordo Church
« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2014, 07:13:56 AM »
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Fontana
Our Lady of Lourdes Chapel
 Fr. Gerard McKee, CMRI
 Web site:  http://www.ourladyoflourdescmri.blogspot.com/
 16010 Boyle St.
 Fontana, CA 92337
 Sunday Mass: 1:30 p.m.
 Call (909) 829-0997 or (909) 841-8052



I know Vince and Pat Balderrama very well.  She's very nice.  I'll tell her "hi" from you.  

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Los Angeles


Actually, that's Santa Clarita ("Newhall" properly speaking), north of the San Fernando Valley, which is north of Los Angeles proper.  Q of A is about 50 miles north of downtown Los Angeles, and 10 miles outside the city limits.  Orange County is closer than Santa Clarita.

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Queen of Angels Church
 Fr. Dominic Radecki (RevDominicRgmail.com)
 Web site: http://www.queenofangelscatholicchurch.org
 24244 Newhall Ave.
 Santa Clarita, CA 91321
 Phone:(661) 255-9849
 Rectory: (661) 269-4943
 Cell: (661) 618-0075
 Sunday Masses: 8:00 a.m., 11:00 a.m., 5:00 p.m.


I know Fr. Dominic very well.  He's very nice, too.  

Agnes Roma would be much more at home at OLHC, IMHO.  

Agnes Roma is concerned with traveling to Arcadia.  
Why would he want to go twice as far to Fontana or Santa Clarita????????

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Adult Confirmation Class in Novus Ordo Church
« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2014, 07:56:44 AM »
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Quote from: AgnesRoma

my wife say , our teacher is start to get irritated with us.

we are not sure, if we should continue to attend this adult confirmation class or not at this point.

do you all have any suggestion.

we usually attend Latin Mass offered by Diocese in Orange County, CA
but, we are possibly thinking about get confirmation from SSPX, but nearest SSPX church is in Alahambra, more than 1 hour away.



He says "nearest SSPX church is in Alahambra, more than 1 hour away."  

First of all, Alhambra (not Alahambra) is a city east of L.A. where it's the location of an Indult Mass with nice music and High Mass every week, but it's not the SSPX.  SSPX has no chapel in the city of Alhambra.  The only SSPX chapel within 30 miles of Alhambra is in the city of Arcadia, Our Lady of the Angels Catholic Church (not to be confused with Mahony's Our Lady of the Angels so-called cathedral, in downtown L.A.).  Arcadia is another city in the greater Los Angeles area, located between the city of Pasadena and the city of San Gabriel (where there is a California Mission, built by Fray Junipero Serra*).  

Second of all,  Alhambra isn't "more than 1 hour away" from any part of Orange County, unless you're on a bicycle or taking public transportation.  

Perhaps AgnesRoma uses the city bus to get around, and if so, going to OLHC in Garden Grove would be the perfect solution for Mass and Confirmation and everything else, to boot.



*Why Fr. Serra is not a canonized saint, when the likes of Fr. Josemaría Escrivá de Balaguer (Opus Dei founder), or Sister Faustina Kowalska are, and John XXIII and JPII are about to be, is an insult to the truth.  Fr. Serra walked the length of California's coast several times, on foot, and he was halfway crippled.  He made thousands of converts.  Due to his virtue and fortitude and benevolence and apostolic spirit, California had the Mass before it had the Gold Rush, and more missions than the Church had had ecuмenical councils.  There have been many miracles attributed to Fr. Serra, so that's not the hold-up.  He spoke Spanish, so it's not a cultural obstacle.  It must have something to do with politics.


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Adult Confirmation Class in Novus Ordo Church
« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2014, 08:34:37 AM »
Quote from: Neil Obstat
As of 30 years ago, confirmation classes in Los Angeles and later Orange County were transformed into social service organization activities, whereby the students logged time doing charity work for the community as if they were in the Boy Scouts or Girl Scouts (both of which are now infested with Sodomites and Liberals).  


The Archdiocese of Indianapolis also has a "community service" requirement to receive the Sacrament of Confirmation.  In the few months prior to the biennial Confirmation service (last time it was at Lucas Oil Stadium where the Indianapolis Colts play football) the state-wide homeschool email group has a large number of posts with the subject:  "Community Service Opportunity" and members are posting numerous opportunities for the high school students who are working towards Confirmation to log in "charity" (i.e., Community Service) hours for a variety of "social service organizations".

While I do not object to asking people to volunteer for many of these organizations (of course, I do object to those that promote immoral behavior), the requirement that individuals log in a certain number of Community Service hours in order to be Confirmed smacks of Simony, especially in view of the fact that the Archdiocese and the parishes actually promote "Community Services" for their activities.

Furthermore, it actually decreases the real spirit of "service" making it merely a cost of getting something desired rather than a true self-giving.  Teaching the confirmands the need for sacrifice and self-giving is one thing, making it a requirement to be Confirmed is something else entirely.

But, Neil Obstat, that is what the Conciliar church is.  It is merely another social service institution.  And even it says that it is only one of many such institutions that are good to be involved with.

It's not just a problem in Los Angeles.

Adult Confirmation Class in Novus Ordo Church
« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2014, 09:08:21 AM »
Quote from: TKGS
Quote from: Neil Obstat
As of 30 years ago, confirmation classes in Los Angeles and later Orange County were transformed into social service organization activities, whereby the students logged time doing charity work for the community as if they were in the Boy Scouts or Girl Scouts (both of which are now infested with Sodomites and Liberals).  


The Archdiocese of Indianapolis also has a "community service" requirement to receive the Sacrament of Confirmation.  In the few months prior to the biennial Confirmation service (last time it was at Lucas Oil Stadium where the Indianapolis Colts play football) the state-wide homeschool email group has a large number of posts with the subject:  "Community Service Opportunity" and members are posting numerous opportunities for the high school students who are working towards Confirmation to log in "charity" (i.e., Community Service) hours for a variety of "social service organizations".

While I do not object to asking people to volunteer for many of these organizations (of course, I do object to those that promote immoral behavior), the requirement that individuals log in a certain number of Community Service hours in order to be Confirmed smacks of Simony, especially in view of the fact that the Archdiocese and the parishes actually promote "Community Services" for their activities.

Furthermore, it actually decreases the real spirit of "service" making it merely a cost of getting something desired rather than a true self-giving.  Teaching the confirmands the need for sacrifice and self-giving is one thing, making it a requirement to be Confirmed is something else entirely.

But, Neil Obstat, that is what the Conciliar church is.  It is merely another social service institution.  And even it says that it is only one of many such institutions that are good to be involved with.

It's not just a problem in Los Angeles.


Good point, it reminds me of the way judges order service instead of prison. So much of it is really silly and just for show, it doesn't help  the intended population, it makes for nice pics in the diocesan newspaper.