Author Topic: Adult Confirmation Class in Novus Ordo Church (Read 19391 times)

AgnesRoma · « **Reply #15 on:** February 28, 2014, 02:01:25 PM »

my wife's Adult Confirmation teacher, he say he is convert to Catholic church, and he used to be protestant. however, his idea is still more protestant than Catholic. and he is head of Eucharistic Ministers. His class is based on Question and Answer sessions. he get irritated, when our answers are traditional, such as many people go to hell, he rather seems to prefer nobody know the answer, so he can get to tell to the people. so us knowing the answer and our answer are traditional point of view, that we are screwing up his class. his favorite priest is Father Barron. in his you tube Video, Father Barron says , "there is reasonable chance to believe all of the people are saved" , he also said "one must absolutely resist and reject heaven and God, to order to go to hell"
one time , he was connecting about Papal infallibility, and Pope said being gαy is OK on the air plane, so on.

so you all can see our pain listening and attending those class and get to listen to Father Barron for 40 minutes.

my wife is intended to write a email to our teacher perhaps to pastor of that church.
Sad things is that many of those who attend the class do not know much about Catholic teaching, and they start to believe what our teacher and father Barron teaches is THE teaching of Jesus and Catholic church.

my wife says, "Fatima's third secret is coming to true. and Jesus coming is near" based on how the condition of Catholic church is today. I understand Jesus said, things get bad before he come back again.

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Parish shop and leave that parish. A most likely scenario is the priest that allows this lay person to continue is gαy.

Before you leave, write a letter to the false heretic and send copies to the diocese and the priest.

A lot of lay people who "take charge" in these lay orgs get a superiority complex, knock bozo off her podium. How long has this lay person been in the position ? Probably for years and let me tell you right now, if you think you will be the first to bring up the issue, you are wrong.

Make your next Mass your last, write a check out for 1 penny to the priest retirement fund.

And don't let the fact that you invested time or are near Easter to bail, it will just send a louder message. Fire your sponsor while you are at it.

AgnesRoma · « **Reply #16 on:** February 28, 2014, 02:05:20 PM »

we used to go to OLHC, however, I am not sure if they offer confirmation. it seems church in Arcadia , CA ( SSPX ) is the closest traditional place offer confirmation ? since, many of those independent traditional church do not have bishop ?

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Fontana
Our Lady of Lourdes Chapel
Fr. Gerard McKee, CMRI
Web site: http://www.ourladyoflourdescmri.blogspot.com/
16010 Boyle St.
Fontana, CA 92337
Sunday Mass: 1:30 p.m.
Call (909) 829-0997 or (909) 841-8052

I know Vince and Pat Balderrama very well. She's very nice. I'll tell her "hi" from you.

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Los Angeles

Actually, that's Santa Clarita ("Newhall" properly speaking), north of the San Fernando Valley, which is north of Los Angeles proper. Q of A is about 50 miles north of downtown Los Angeles, and 10 miles outside the city limits. Orange County is closer than Santa Clarita.

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Queen of Angels Church
Fr. Dominic Radecki (RevDominicRgmail.com)
Web site: http://www.queenofangelscatholicchurch.org
24244 Newhall Ave.
Santa Clarita, CA 91321
Phone:(661) 255-9849
Rectory: (661) 269-4943
Cell: (661) 618-0075
Sunday Masses: 8:00 a.m., 11:00 a.m., 5:00 p.m.

I know Fr. Dominic very well. He's very nice, too.

Agnes Roma would be much more at home at OLHC, IMHO.

Agnes Roma is concerned with traveling to Arcadia.
Why would he want to go twice as far to Fontana or Santa Clarita????????

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Matto · « **Reply #17 on:** February 28, 2014, 02:06:58 PM »

Never go back there again.

. Make a choice between any local independent chapel, CMRI chapl, or SSPX chapel and go there. If you go to one of those chapels there is a good chance you will learn the true faith and when you get confirmed the sacrament will be valid. Did you know that there are doubts about the validity of Novus Ordo confirmations? That is why the traditional Catholic organizations conditionally confirm people who come to them who were confirmed in the Novus Ordo.

AgnesRoma · « **Reply #18 on:** February 28, 2014, 02:12:36 PM »

I was mistaken between Alahambra and Acadia
I meant SSPX church in Acadia

according to SSPX web site, one in Arcadia is closest and only place offer Traditional Confirmation in Los Angels and Orange Counties area.

we used to go to OLHC in Garden Grove, they have good Latin Mass and Catholicism class, but I am not sure, if they offer Confirmation.

when I called church in Arcadia, a person told me, I have to be attending mass at their church in Acadia and register there also to get confirm at Our Lady of the Angels in Arcadia, CA

anybody know more about it ?

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my wife say , our teacher is start to get irritated with us.

we are not sure, if we should continue to attend this adult confirmation class or not at this point.

do you all have any suggestion.

we usually attend Latin Mass offered by Diocese in Orange County, CA
but, we are possibly thinking about get confirmation from SSPX, but nearest SSPX church is in Alahambra, more than 1 hour away.

He says "nearest SSPX church is in Alahambra, more than 1 hour away."

First of all, Alhambra (not Alahambra) is a city east of L.A. where it's the location of an Indult Mass with nice music and High Mass every week, but it's not the SSPX. SSPX has no chapel in the city of Alhambra. The only SSPX chapel within 30 miles of Alhambra is in the city of Arcadia, Our Lady of the Angels Catholic Church (not to be confused with Mahony's Our Lady of the Angels so-called cathedral, in downtown L.A.). Arcadia is another city in the greater Los Angeles area, located between the city of Pasadena and the city of San Gabriel (where there is a California Mission, built by Fray Junipero Serra*).

Second of all, Alhambra isn't "more than 1 hour away" from any part of Orange County, unless you're on a bicycle or taking public transportation.

Perhaps AgnesRoma uses the city bus to get around, and if so, going to OLHC in Garden Grove would be the perfect solution for Mass and Confirmation and everything else, to boot.

*Why Fr. Serra is not a canonized saint, when the likes of Fr. Josemaría Escrivá de Balaguer (Opus Dei founder), or Sister Faustina Kowalska are, and John XXIII and JPII are about to be, is an insult to the truth. Fr. Serra walked the length of California's coast several times, on foot, and he was halfway crippled. He made thousands of converts. Due to his virtue and fortitude and benevolence and apostolic spirit, California had the Mass before it had the Gold Rush, and more missions than the Church had had ecuмenical councils. There have been many miracles attributed to Fr. Serra, so that's not the hold-up. He spoke Spanish, so it's not a cultural obstacle. It must have something to do with politics.

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PG · « **Reply #19 on:** February 28, 2014, 02:20:28 PM »

Angesroma - Avoid the novus ordo!

In S. California, you are basically on your own(baptism is necessary, confirmation can wait)(Fr. Cooper sspx/arcadia is your option for confession)(Fr. Hawker sspx/arcadia came from novus ordo and may have doubtful sacraments)(Msgr. Perez and company along with CMRI have doubtful sacraments).

You need to purchase the "catechism of the council of trent" by tan books, "open letter to confused catholics" by Abp. Lefebvre/sspx, "time bombs of 2nd vatican council" by Fr. Schmidberger/sspx, and "the sacred and the profane" by Bp. Kelly/sspv(presents the case against validity of Abp. Thus sacraments)(online download available for free).

Until you know what is going on in all of the traditional movement, apply the brakes!