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Hello, we live in Southern California , Orange County, CA
my wife signed up for Adult Confirmation Class at near by church ( Diocese church )
and we have been taking about 4 weeks of this class now.

here is the problem we have.

Adult Confirmation Class is taught by Lay Person, not priest.
and he teach very liberal Catholicism.  such as, gαy is OK, everybody go to Heaven, using Father Barron's video.  

he also use that Pope said "who are there to judge gαy" as that he suggest now Catholic church tech ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ are no longer sin, so on.

he says this at end of every class we had.

it is painful to listen to Father Barron's talk on Video, and as much painful to listen to Adult confirmation lay teacher's very liberal opinion.  

his class is questions and answer session, often we answer that apply to Latin Mass, but not Novus Ordo mass.

such as what is the first reading ? "Epistle ?"  "What is That ?"  
"what priest wear under vest during mass ?", "Alb" "No"  I did not know Novus ordo priest do not wear Alb.

so on.  and we often answer wrong because of our unfamiliarity with Novus Ordo Mass. and tradition.

my wife say , our teacher is start to get irritated with us.

we are not sure, if we should continue to attend this adult confirmation class or not at this point.

do you all have any suggestion.

we usually attend Latin Mass offered by Diocese in Orange County, CA
but, we are possibly thinking about get confirmation from SSPX, but nearest SSPX church is in Alahambra, more than 1 hour away.

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IMHO you're wasting your time at this NovusOrdo confirmation class.

(I am very familiar with what has been going on in Southern California since Vat.II, with Roger Cardinal Mahony and Bishop Tod Brown, etc.  How Mahony snuck through without a conviction for any of his manifest crimes can only be explained by demonic influence.  He was a close corroborator with Joseph Cardinal Bernardin of Chicago, who was the principal promoter of the sin of Sodom in the American Catholic Church.)  

The only thing you could possibly hope to accomplish there is to find out what errors they are promoting now (as opposed to the plethora of errors they have been promoting in the past 40 years).  

You are NOT going to learn about the Catholic faith there AT ALL.  So forget that.  

Another thing you might be trying to do is to evangelize the instructor or the other students - the latter of which may sometimes be interested in the truth, but not usually.  It sounds like your instructor is too far gone for any hope of being interested in what you have to offer.  

Your going to the Indult usually is another part of the problem.  The Mass might be okay, but the sermons are going to be useless.  You might as well take a nap during Indultery sermons.  

Since you're in Orange County, you ought to know about Our Lady Help of Christians in Garden Grove.  It's on Bixby Ave., near Brookhurst and Chapman Ave.  Msgr. Patrick Perez and several assistants have the Canonized Traditional Latin Mass there just as it was everywhere in the world from Apostolic times through the Age of Faith, Pope St. Pius V, Pope St. Pius X, and through WWII and even the Korean War.  Things started to change in 1955.  

There are none of the post-1954 changes to be found at OLHC, but you'll find a lot of the changes in your Indultery Mass.

I'm saying "Indultery" instead of "Indult" because it is a matter of FIDELITY.  A husband or a wife who is FAITHFUL to their marriage vows doesn't fool around with someone else to whom they're not married, because if they do, it's the serious sin of adultery, which is infidelity.  Every Indult diocese Mass on planet earth presumes from the start that the Newmass of Paul VI is the ORDINARY Roman Rite, and that's a lie.  It is unfaithfulness to the Apostolic Faith that has been handed down to us from antiquity, and we are supposed to know better.  Rome is in apostasy and it is up to the few who are paying attention to not forget the truth, before it's too late.  If you keep going to the Indultery Mass you'll forget the truth.  


As for confirmations, the SSPX is having them in Arcadia this year, on May 25th, and Msgr. has announced that you need to register for that at OLHC if you want to be confirmed as a parishioner of OLHC.  You don't have to travel to Santa Anita Race Track area for your classes.  A group from OLHC will be going to Arcadia for confirmation in May, and it's only one trip for one event.  You can probably carpool with someone if you ask in advance.  All you have to do is go to Garden Grove.  And you really ought to be going there for Mass, anyway.  The sermons are excellent, and the people are very friendly.  There are lots of social events, daily Mass, Stations during Lent, special classes on Moral Theology and the Great Councils of the Church, etc.  The regular parishioners have numerous contacts with Catholics all over the world, in every continent on the planet.  If you have a family member in New Delhi or Frankfurt or Brisbane or Lima or Bohol, chances are they know someone who is a friend of one of the OLHC parishioners.  They are the little flock of Fr. Frederick Schell (R.I.P.), who passed away in A.D. 2002, 12 years ago.  He was a great priest, and he left a fine legacy.



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As of 30 years ago, confirmation classes in Los Angeles and later Orange County were transformed into social service organization activities, whereby the students logged time doing charity work for the community as if they were in the Boy Scouts or Girl Scouts (both of which are now infested with Sodomites and Liberals).  

Anyone attending those NovusOrdo confirmation classes only heard about being nice to people, sharing love, suspending judgment, using inclusive language, respecting other religions, recycling, caring for the environment, and being nice to 'gαys'.  They were told that you only have to think about being Catholic while you're inside the walls of the church, so when you leave church and go back into the world, you go back into your own erstwhile worldliness, you return to your formal ways, and you can forget all about what you were thinking about reading the Gospel, for example.  

But the Gospel probably had most of the good stuff removed anyway.  That was one of the many "accomplishments" of Mahony.

If you were to explain to the confirmation instructor that it has always been the teaching of Holy Mother Church that we share our faith with our neighbors, and let our light shine like a candle on a lampstand and not like one put under a bushel basket, would he (or she) know what you're talking about?  

In Scripture where it says "the first shall be last and the last shall be first," Mahony took that to mean that at Communion, the people in the back of the Church come forward to receive first, and so it proceeds, until the last to receive are those who sit in the front pews.  I'm not making this up.  

Whoever came up with "Truth is stranger than fiction," must have known Mahony.  


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