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Offline TheKnightVigilant

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Adolf Hitler on Christianity
« on: September 20, 2013, 05:22:18 AM »
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  • From "Hitler's Table Talk 1941-1944: His Private Conversations"

    "The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity.  Bolshevism is Christianity's illegitimate child.  Both are inventions of the Jєω.  The deliberate lie in the matter of religion was introduced into the world by Christianity.  Bolshevism practises a lie of the same nature, when it claims to bring liberty to men, whereas in reality it seeks only to enslave them. In the ancient world, the relations between men and gods were founded on an instinctive respect.  It was a world enlightened by the idea of tolerance.  Christianity was the first creed in the world to exterminate its adversaries in the name of love.  Its key-note is intolerance.  Without Christianity, we should not have had Islam.  The Roman Empire, under Germanic influence, would have developed in the direction of world-domination, and humanity would not have extinguished fifteen centuries of civilisation at a single stroke.  Let it not be said that Christianity brought man the life of the soul, for that evolution was in the natural order of things."

    "Originally war was nothing but a struggle for pasture grounds.  Today war is nothing but a struggle for the riches of nature.  By virtue of an inherent law, these riches belong to him who conquers them.  The great migrations set out from the East.  With us begins the ebb, from West to East.  That's in accordance with the laws of nature.  By means of the struggle, the elites are continually renewed.

    The law of selection justifies this incessant struggle, by allowing the survival of the fittest.  Christianity is a rebellion against natural law, a protest against nature.  Taken to its logical extreme, Christianity would mean the systematic cultivation of the human failure.
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    "But for the coming of Christianity, who knows how the history of Europe would have developed?  Rome would have conquered all Europe, and the onrush of the Huns would have been broken on the legions.  It was Christianity that brought about the fall of Rome and not the Germans or the Huns."

    "I shall never come personally to terms with the Christian lie."

    "Our epoch will certainly see the end of the disease of Christianity."

    "Christianity is an invention of sick brains: one could imagine nothing more senseless, nor any more indecent way of turning the idea of the Godhead into a mockery.  A negro with his tabus is crushingly superior to the human being who seriously believes in Transubstantiation. "

    "The fact that the Japanese have retained their political philosophy, which one of the essential reasons of their success, is due to having been saved in time from the views of Christianity.  Just as in Islam, there is no kind of terrorism in the Japanese State religion, but on the contrary, a promise of happiness This terrorism in religion is the product, to put it briefly, of a Jєωιѕн dogma, which Christianity has universalised and whose effect is to sow trouble and confusion in men's minds."

    This isn't all. Hitler's hatred for the Jєωs was only matched by his hatred for the the Christian civilization of Europe, the European nobility and the clergy of the Catholic Church. Read it.


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    « Reply #1 on: September 20, 2013, 05:43:19 AM »
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  • Hitler stated very clearly "I am now as before a Catholic and will always remain so."

    Has DavidJ or Ashmo joined the forum?

    Cardinal von Faulhaber stated "Hitler was deeply religious" and  'The Reich Chancellor undoubtedly lives in belief in God..He recognises Christianity as the builder of Western culture"


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    Adolf Hitler on Christianity
    « Reply #2 on: September 20, 2013, 05:52:31 AM »
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  • Lots of people claim to be Catholic.

    What do you think of Hitler's statements reproduced in the opening post of this thread?

    Offline John Grace

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    « Reply #3 on: September 20, 2013, 05:55:23 AM »
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  • Quote from: TheKnightVigilant
    Lots of people claim to be Catholic.

    What do you think of Hitler's statements reproduced in the opening post of this thread?


    Hitler was a great leader and I for one am not entertaining your rubbish. If reproducing material, reproduce the facts and truth.

    Offline TheKnightVigilant

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    « Reply #4 on: September 20, 2013, 05:58:10 AM »
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  • You can read it all for yourself, if you can stomach the truth about the man. The book is "Hitler's Table Talk, 1941-1944: His Private Conversations"


    Offline Mithrandylan

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    « Reply #5 on: September 20, 2013, 06:41:18 AM »
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  • Quote from: John Grace
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    Lots of people claim to be Catholic.

    What do you think of Hitler's statements reproduced in the opening post of this thread?


    Hitler was a great leader and I for one am not entertaining your rubbish. If reproducing material, reproduce the facts and truth.


    Just to be clear, you are calling Knight Vigilant a liar, right?  You are saying that nothing above can be attributed to Hitler, right?
    "Be kind; do not seek the malicious satisfaction of having discovered an additional enemy to the Church... And, above all, be scrupulously truthful. To all, friends and foes alike, give that serious attention which does not misrepresent any opinion, does not distort any statement, does not mutilate any quotation. We need not fear to serve the cause of Christ less efficiently by putting on His spirit". (Vermeersch, 1913).

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    « Reply #6 on: September 20, 2013, 06:50:16 AM »
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  • So the starvation death of Fr. Maximilian Kolbe was just the result of a...mis-communication with his underlings?

    Come on, man! Adolf Hitler ruined his own potential (and his future, as well as his legacy) when he apostatized. Sure, he opposed the Jєωs, but being half-right will get you nowhere. His whole mission in life was all about THIS world (including race) and he didn't care for the Catholic Faith.

    Just because we want to oppose the Jєωιѕн replacement of Calvary with Auschwitz doesn't mean we have to knee-jerk all the way over to the opposite extreme and suggest that Hitler was a great Catholic!

    I suppose if I had to live 4 years at a liberal university in California, I'd be pretty fed-up with all the Jєωιѕн race-worship and Hitler vilification to the point that I might... no. Still no.

    Hitler wasn't the ultimate evil, the worst in history, or anything like that -- but he was still no role model (to take understatement to the extreme).
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    « Reply #7 on: September 20, 2013, 07:08:03 AM »
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  • Hitler was an evil wacko.   He murdered his own people.  Stalin was worse then Hitler.
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    « Reply #8 on: September 20, 2013, 07:14:16 AM »
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    Hitler was an evil wacko.


    Terrible nonsense and enemy propaganda. Hitler, a great man and leader went around in an open top car and walked among his people. There was nothing evil about Hitler. It's silly to say he was an "evil wacko". He was the elected leader of a great Nation.A Nation and people so wronged before and since WWII.

    There will be disagreement but do oppose him based on facts and not enemy propaganda.


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    « Reply #9 on: September 20, 2013, 07:44:52 AM »
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    I hadn't even "opposition to Jєωs" in mind when making a reply. It's important to be accurate.

    For example many in the pro-life movement often make reference to the Wannsee Conference of being a discussion to exterminate Jєωs. It was nothing of the sort.  The Christian Solidarity Party in Ireland for example often have articles promoting lies and falsehood about Hitler and Germany. It's usually a load of old tosh.


    You know, I am one of those who question the "historical fact" -- you know, the one that got Bishop Williamson in trouble.

    Nevertheless, I refuse to knee-jerk the other direction and canonize Hitler, or even glorify him.

    What purpose does it serve, anyhow? I can oppose the Jєωs seven ways from Sunday without needing a picture of Hitler on my wall.

    Just like Catholic priests are forbidden from offering public Masses for non-Catholics, I'd say it's a bad idea for Catholic laymen to admire such men. Are we really that desperate for role models?

    I can think of quite a few great role models in our own age who are still alive (Bishop Williamson, for one).
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    « Reply #10 on: September 20, 2013, 07:45:59 AM »
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    Hitler stated very clearly "I am now as before a Catholic and will always remain so."


    I've heard many variations of that from Joe Biden and Nancy Peℓσѕι.


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    « Reply #11 on: September 20, 2013, 07:49:13 AM »
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    Hitler was an evil wacko.


    Terrible nonsense and enemy propaganda. Hitler, a great man and leader went around in an open top car and walked among his people. There was nothing evil about Hitler. It's silly to say he was an "evil wacko".  

    He was the elected leader of a great Nation.


    A Nation and people so wronged before and since WWII. ( I agree).

    There will be disagreement but do oppose him based on facts and not enemy propaganda.



    And Obama was elected to be leader of a great nation....
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    « Reply #12 on: September 20, 2013, 07:49:58 AM »
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  • Quote from: John Grace
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    Lots of people claim to be Catholic.

    What do you think of Hitler's statements reproduced in the opening post of this thread?


    Hitler was a great leader and I for one am not entertaining your rubbish. If reproducing material, reproduce the facts and truth.


    Well, just to touch on the most superficial complaint:

    If you were a "great" and "devout Catholic" leader, would you have chosen, say the Holy Cross, or perhaps Our Lord's Monogram as your national standard?

    Or would you have chosen a hindu idol that resembles nothing so much as a demonically twisted, misshapen cross?

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    « Reply #13 on: September 20, 2013, 07:53:53 AM »
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    I hadn't even "opposition to Jєωs" in mind when making a reply. It's important to be accurate.

    For example many in the pro-life movement often make reference to the Wannsee Conference of being a discussion to exterminate Jєωs. It was nothing of the sort.  The Christian Solidarity Party in Ireland for example often have articles promoting lies and falsehood about Hitler and Germany. It's usually a load of old tosh.


    You know, I am one of those who question the "historical fact" -- you know, the one that got Bishop Williamson in trouble.

    Nevertheless, I refuse to knee-jerk the other direction and canonize Hitler, or even glorify him.

    What purpose does it serve, anyhow? I can oppose the Jєωs seven ways from Sunday without needing a picture of Hitler on my wall.

    Just like Catholic priests are forbidden from offering public Masses for non-Catholics, I'd say it's a bad idea for Catholic laymen to admire such men. Are we really that desperate for role models?

    I can think of quite a few great role models in our own age who are still alive (Bishop Williamson, for one).


    Firstly, I don't have time for this thread.I decided to add a comment for accuracy and it is a topic discussed at length previously.
    Secondly, I haven't canonized or glorified Hitler. My point really is if people are researching or discussing the topic, they should present facts.

    Stating that Hitler was an "evil wacko" is utter nonsense.

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    « Reply #14 on: September 20, 2013, 07:59:52 AM »
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    Hitler was an evil wacko.


    Terrible nonsense and enemy propaganda. Hitler, a great man and leader went around in an open top car and walked among his people. There was nothing evil about Hitler. It's silly to say he was an "evil wacko". He was the elected leader of a great Nation.A Nation and people so wronged before and since WWII.

    There will be disagreement but do oppose him based on facts and not enemy propaganda.



    I detect here the familiar strains of classic Irish anti-British schadenfreude (which I encountered in some members of the Irish side of my family), in which there is harbored a secret (or in this case not so secret) admiration for Hitler for doing to the Brits what the Irish themselves were powerless to do...

    I might be wrong, but I don't think I am...