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2Vermont · « **Reply #20 on:** December 16, 2014, 06:21:35 PM »

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I have another question.

Can one go to confession with an Orthodox priest? If so, are they done in a similar fashion and would they even hear the confession of a Catholic?

An Orthodox priest is the closest thing I have to going to a valid priest locally.

How about Novus Ordo priests?!? Are they considered to be priests with all the faculties expected of a Catholic priest?

I have positive doubt about the validity of all of the Novus Ordo priests in my state. I do not know of any ordained in the Old Rite and I know that the most recent bishop was consecrated in the New Rite.

2Vermont,

I am assuming you live in the state of Vermont. You are within, at most, a 3 (perhaps 4) hour drive from Sacred Heart Church in Lawrence, MA. The parish is run by a Dominican Order of brothers and has a priest on hand 24/7. They are independent of any and all Novus Ordo nonsense. Rent a car, borrow a car, take a bus and drive the 3-4 hours to Lawrence, MA, at least for your Easter duty. The Brothers and the resident priest will receive you warmly and you will be able to receive VALID Sacraments at Sacred Heart. Call the rectory and see if they can set something up for a stay at Sacred Heart or help you with accommodations. The Brothers at Sacred Heart are a Godsend. You can google Sacred Heart Church to get directions, phone numbers, email addresses etc. If you are a sincere Catholic, they will help you.

I already have somewhere I attend that is that far away. My husband and I go 4 times a year (hopefully we'll increase that in time). Our next trip is planned for January.

But thank you. :-)

2Vermont · « **Reply #21 on:** December 16, 2014, 06:28:20 PM »

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Before going on ignorantly speculating about the validity of the post Vatican II sacraments, please consider these facts: Luther’s heresy was declared in 1521 and until today, the Catholic Church has not declared invalid the sacraments administered by most of the Protestant bishops. When the Church baptizes a convert from Protestantism, she uses a conditional formula, which means that in the time span of some five centuries, she still has not decided whether the Apostolic succession ceased in those heretical sects and the sacraments administrated in them are valid or not.

Only regarding the Anglican sect that separated from the Catholic Church in 1534 did the Catholic Church declare its orders invalid and null. However, more than 300 years passed before Pope Leo XIII in 1896 wrote his Encyclical Apostolicae curae clarifying this question regarding the Anglicans.

Thus, if the Holy Catholic Church, which is the source of all wisdom, took and is taking so long to declare orders and sacraments administrated by known heretics as invalid, this teaches us that heresy does not automatically bring about invalidity of orders and the sacraments, as many unwisely conclude.

And what's it to you Cantarella? You couldn't care less about the state of my soul or whether I get to confession because I'm just an ignorant, schismatic sede.

Go away.

MyrnaM · « **Reply #22 on:** December 17, 2014, 09:25:02 AM »

SVermont,

Cantarella means well, but she lacks tact when she addresses us. Those of us, who do not agree with her logic.

confederate catholic · « **Reply #23 on:** December 17, 2014, 11:12:38 AM »

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You sound like a troll to me.

just for the record trolling is supposed to be the following:
troll (/ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people,[1] by posting inflammatory,[2] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[3] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.

1- quoting basic church teaching is not upsetting to Catholics, quoting opinion might be
2- topic was about confession
3- again topic is about needs for valid confession

:reading:

no troll here

more like Baba Yaga

poche · « **Reply #24 on:** December 18, 2014, 12:07:55 AM »

Pope Francis touched on the importance of being humble and open to the Lord's correction, encouraging the faithful to offer him their sins to God in order to be saved.

“The humble, poor people that trust in the Lord: these are the ones who are saved and this is the way of the Church, isn’t it?” the Pope asked during his Dec. 16 daily mass in the Vatican's Saint Martha Guesthouse.

“This is the path I must follow, not the path in which I do not listen to His voice, do not accept correction and do not trust in the Lord.”

Pope Francis centered his reflections on the day's readings, taken from the Book of the Prophet Zephaniah and from the Gospel of Matthew, which the pontiff said both speak of a “judgment” on which both salvation and condemnation depend.

While Zephaniah in the first reading talks about a “rebellious and polluted” city, there is still the presence of some who repent of their sins, the Pope observed, saying that this group is the “people of God” who possess the “three characteristics (of) humility, poverty and trust in the Lord.”

However the people in the city who refused to trust in the Lord and accept the corrections he gave him cannot receive salvation because they are closed to it, he said, while it is the meek and the humble who trust that will be saved.

“And that is still valid today, isn’t it? When we look at the holy people of God that is humble, that has its riches in its faith in the Lord, in its trust in the Lord – the humble, poor people that trust in the Lord: these are the ones who are saved.”

The Pope then turned to the gospel reading in which Jesus tells the chief priests and elders the story of a father who asks his two sons to work in their vineyard. While the first son says that he will go and does not, the second initially denies his father’s request, but later goes to work.

In telling this story, Jesus makes it clear to the chief priests and elders that they were not open to the voice of God preached by John the Baptist, adding that this is why tax collectors and prostitutes will enter the kingdom of heaven before they do.

This statement from Jesus echoes the situation of many Christians today who feel “pure” simply because they go to mass and receive communion, the Pope noted, explaining that God asks for more.

“If your heart is not a repentant heart, if you do not listen to the Lord, if you don’t accept correction and you do not trust in Him, your heart is unrepentant,” he said, observing how the Pharisees were “hypocrites” for being scandalized at the attention Jesus gave to prostitutes and tax collectors.

Although they were affronted at Jesus acceptance of the sinners, they then “secretly approached them to vent their passion or to do business,” the pontiff explained, saying that because of their hypocrisy they are not welcome in paradise.

Pope Francis said that this judgment gives hope provided that we have the courage to open our hearts to God, even if that means giving him the full list of our sins.

He recalled the story of a Saint who believed that he had given everything to God with great generosity. However in a conversation with the Lord, the saint was told that there was still something he was holding onto.

When the saint asked what it was that he still had not given, the Lord replied “Your sins,” the pontiff recalled.

The moment in which we are able to tell the Lord “these are my sins – they are not his or hers, they are mine…take them” will be the moment when we become that “meek and humble people” who trust in God, the Pope said, and prayed that “the Lord grant us this grace.”

http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/only-a-repentant-heart-will-receive-salvation-pope-francis-says-10707/