Author Topic: About the supernatural: Do "vampires" exist? (Read 967 times)

ProtectorofOrder · « **on:** July 11, 2014, 02:56:04 AM »

Back to the original definitions. I'm sorry if this sounds ridiculous but it's best to be open minded to discuss it. From what I've heard in history "vampires" are supposed to be some kind of spirits which leave a body during night to somehow feed on people. When they fed on people the people they are supposedly feeding on would complain about seeing that deceased person in their house or in their dreams then become very weak and sick, in most cases dieing from it. Then they become them and repeat the cycle, if "vampires" exist somehow damaging their bodies cause them to cease to be active. Some cases of it even happen today and there are some cases in the past which could not be explained by decomposition at all but people could still see them with their own eyes.

Do you think they really exist or not? If so are they probably some kind of demon which attaches themselves to a deceased person's body in order to take their appearence? The bodies they attack themselves to are said to not decompose. A rare case in which bodies of deceased people become possessed by demons?

One case happened in 2004 in modern times even in which the victims claimed they saw this "vampire" of a deceased person visit them with their own eyes and leave their house. That they were really sick and when they damaged his body it was all over: http://vampirologist.blogspot.com.au/2009/01/case-of-petre-toma.html

glaston · « **Reply #1 on:** July 11, 2014, 06:28:31 AM »

Vlad the impaler had syphilis (like mass murderering Jєω Lenin) Prince Charles loves to boast about his 'blood ties'

It's more fun finding out about the 30+ inherited genetic afflictions/plagues that Jєω mongolian males suffer from!

One (Standard oil)Rockefeller was so afflicted on his face by another inherited plague that he didn't allow photos and rarely mixed in public!

Truly a plague sent on them by God for their general disobedience, stubbornness and general mental, psychotic behaviour which turns them into the World's worst mass-murderers.(Jєωιѕн ritual murders of Christian kids also)

Once you know this, then other things fall in place - such as they run the Worldwide genetic databases in Switzerland where they devise evil things in their medical 'big pharma' companies all concentrated around Geneva. (Another way they suck the life/wealth out of the slaves)

Cancer research is a total con - my theory is Jєωs steal/use the money to research their genetic plagues (Cancer - the crab - star formation, what it is associated with)

Here's just one instance Pemphigus
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pemphigus

A plague on the evil ones pustules!

Graham · « **Reply #2 on:** July 11, 2014, 07:40:37 AM »

If they do exist they would be preternatural, rather than supernatural. However, a traditional priest told me that it isn't profitable to speculate about such things, a counsel I admit I have difficulty following.

ProtectorofOrder · « **Reply #3 on:** July 11, 2014, 08:28:55 AM »

My theory is that if they do exist it is because of urbanization, people began to live further and further away from graveyards. During older times people lived in villages which were right next to them hence why there were more cases reported then. It could be demonic possession of the bodies of deceased people.

ProtectorofOrder · « **Reply #4 on:** July 11, 2014, 08:53:35 AM »

my theory of why less cases are being reported*

PerEvangelicaDicta · « **Reply #5 on:** July 11, 2014, 09:52:17 AM »

I just don't believe there are vampire spirits. or werewolves. or aliens. or quidditch. It's more the influence of modernist culture via romanticized shows, books and movies.

Historically there were a few psychos who thought drinking blood was good, but there are all kinds of psychos with proclivities to varieties of abominations. The current obsession and popularity of vampires is thanks to the royals, as glaston alluded to. They are one sick inbred bunch of crazies who are proud to claim a nutjob 'vampire' as part of their heritage.
I'm not denying demons, more like amazed at all the evil-made- fascinating devil worship, to the point where a Catholic would actually ponder if the propaganda could reflect a reality. Yet another ʝʊdɛօ masonic hollywood success story.

The priestly advice "it isn't profitable to speculate about such things" is simple but absolutely superb. Don't open the door to the unholy. Keep your mind on holy things, lest you bring demons into your life. Now that's reality.

Quasimodo · « **Reply #6 on:** July 11, 2014, 10:03:35 AM »

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My theory is that if they do exist it is because of urbanization, people began to live further and further away from graveyards. During older times people lived in villages which were right next to them hence why there were more cases reported then. It could be demonic possession of the bodies of deceased people.

I heard somewhere that the recorded cases of vampires in the past were corpses reanimated by low level demons seeking a body but unable to possess a live person. These are way different from the glamorized vampires found in the movies.

PerEvangelicaDicta · « **Reply #7 on:** July 11, 2014, 10:46:53 AM »

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These are way different from the glamorized vampires found in the movies.

That's true, if the account is factual.
I'd like to see credible Church sources, otherwise it's just speculation on the demonic which does no good for the soul.

Please pardon my sharp dismissal of the topic. I studiously avoid contemplation on anything demonic. Why give power to the evil one? I had a 'bad experience' you could say.

ggreg · « **Reply #8 on:** July 11, 2014, 11:05:24 AM »

I would think they are a metaphor for unspeakable evils that humans carry out. Like child rape and torture which appears to be the MO of British, EU and US Politicans, Media Celebrities and Judges today.

Lacking docuмentary evidence or not being able to accuse the local lord or King they turned the stories into myths and metaphors to give people reason to fear and teach them to sense evil and avoid it. Also makes life in a village a little bit more interesting.

Poor people just a few meals away from starvation must have always been vunerable to evil people with power.

I'd heard an historian suggest that a big driver for the slave trade was not simply free labour but also the ability for slave owners to have sex with the young females and probably males. The world has always been evil. The blessing, in the past, was that most people could imagine it was better elsewhere.

Now we are burdened with the world's evils through news feeds

crossbro · « **Reply #9 on:** July 11, 2014, 11:31:04 AM »

Vampires do not exist.

What exists are people with sick murder fantasies. They are probably a bit more honest about what they are doing than women who kill their babies in abortion clinics though.

If there could be a scientific explanation though- there is a parasite that can control the brain of an ant. The micro parasite (liver fluke) gets into the ants brain and directs the ant at some point to climb a blade of grass so it can be eaten by a cow. When inside the cow the parasite then lays it's eggs in the cows liver.

It is not a stretch that a parasite can invade a mammal species and through mind control- make it kill for it's own purpose.

LIVER FLUKE MIND CONTROL