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Traditional Catholic Faith => General Discussion => Topic started by: TCat on August 31, 2013, 07:01:14 AM
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I thought this was a place where I could come to learn about the faith, but no! You people again show that you live in a SSPX bubble fantasy world detached from reality. You see someone come to this forum who is searching for the faith and all of a sudden one of you ridicules me by name and you give him 5 thumbs up.
Who is this TCat and who let him out of the mental asylum?
Seriously - corny proclamations, completely with badly faked archaic English, trying to wake up the world?
This troll needs to chased out of here with pitchforks and torches and tossed out onto the intersection with the Protestant street preachers - he would fit right in.
Do you know what you people are?
You people are COWARDS.
You let me talk to you for weeks without saying you had a problem with me being on this forum. Well I tell you what, If you are so happy with your microscopic remnant of a remnant of a remnant, then go ahead and ban me, but if you do, know that in the future if anyone foolish enough to come to you hypocrites for help comes here, they will get the same treatment and they will leave with the same sentiments as I did, and your remnant will remain the handful that it is until your so called resistance peters out into nothing. This is what happens if you don't allow new people onto your forum.
I cant believe I was thinking of going to the SSPX because of this place.
You are wolves in sheeps clothing. You stay silent like cowards when you didn't want anyone but your own SSPX here and then you stab me in the back.
What was the point of responding to my threads then, or of talking to me in private messages? You are not only cowards, you are LIARS.
You bide your time and wait until somebody says something and then you all descend like wolves.
Thanks for turning me off the SSPX now that I know what kind of culture prevails in its ranks.
If you have any decency you will apologise for your insults and duplicity and lies. Don't fool yourself into thinking that you are Catholic and I am not. You have no right to talk to me like this. I come here for help and I find you hypocrites. Not one of you had a problem with that comment above.
You think you are a big man the way you get to talk to people like this over the internet? You think I got nothing better to do? Apply your own logic to yourself. If I am a troll then so are you. Internet forums are only for trolls, everyone is a troll.
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Straight up. Who was biding their time. Who thumbd up that disgusting comment. Show yourselves. Let me see if anyone I have been talking to regularly is one of those who did so.
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I must say that I'm really surprised by Vladimir's comment.
I was very impressed with most of your posts and was following your progress. Not that I read everything on this forum - my time is limited. I am sorry you have been hurt by his, IMO, unwarranted and nasty comment. Don't give it more value than it's worth.
And don't forget, he's only one person. There are a few of us here that are happy to have you on board.
Take heart, Tcat, and don't give up because of this slight. Keep strengthening your spiritual muscle and carry on. I am praying for you.
By the way, I'm not SSPX, I'm just Catholic.
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I must say that I'm really surprised by Vladimir's comment.
I was very impressed with most of your posts and was following your progress. Not that I read everything on this forum - my time is limited. I am sorry you have been hurt by his, IMO, unwarranted and nasty comment. Don't give it more value than it's worth.
And don't forget, he's only one person. There are a few of us here that are happy to have you on board.
Take heart, Tcat, and don't give up because of this slight. Keep strengthening your spiritual muscle and carry on. I am praying for you.
By the way, I'm not SSPX, I'm just Catholic.
I agree
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I must say that I'm really surprised by Vladimir's comment.
I was very impressed with most of your posts and was following your progress. Not that I read everything on this forum - my time is limited. I am sorry you have been hurt by his, IMO, unwarranted and nasty comment. Don't give it more value than it's worth.
And don't forget, he's only one person. There are a few of us here that are happy to have you on board.
Take heart, Tcat, and don't give up because of this slight. Keep strengthening your spiritual muscle and carry on. I am praying for you.
By the way, I'm not SSPX, I'm just Catholic.
I agree
Don't let them get to you Tcat
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Matthew needs to find out who are the persons doing thInge like down-thumbing prayer rrequests, and mocking and insulting those who ask for help. They should be banned at once.
Tcat, you should stay on IMO. I, for one enjoy your posts. While I sometimes go to SSPX, I do nit belong to it. It's my guess that most on here do not belong to the SSPX. Don't allow a few morons to rain on your parade. Unfortunately, such persons are found everywhere, but especially in a amongst the godly. The devil knows his time is shorter everyday, and so he sends his demons to the front lines. CI is a front line. SSPX. Is a front line. CMRI, "Resistance" are all where the battle takes place. On earth, we are the Church militant. That means battle. The only ones to come unscathed through combat are those who stay behind in camp.
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You and I have had our issues, but I did not up thumb that comment.
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Do you know what you people are?
You people are COWARDS.
You let me talk to you for weeks without saying you had a problem with me being on this forum. Well I tell you what, If you are so happy with your microscopic remnant of a remnant of a remnant, then go ahead and ban me, but if you do, know that in the future if anyone foolish enough to come to you hypocrites for help comes here, they will get the same treatment and they will leave with the same sentiments as I did, and your remnant will remain the handful that it is until your so called resistance peters out into nothing. This is what happens if you don't allow new people onto your forum.
I cant believe I was thinking of going to the SSPX because of this place.
You are wolves in sheeps clothing. You stay silent like cowards when you didn't want anyone but your own SSPX here and then you stab me in the back.
What was the point of responding to my threads then, or of talking to me in private messages? You are not only cowards, you are LIARS.
You bide your time and wait until somebody says something and then you all descend like wolves.
Thanks for turning me off the SSPX now that I know what kind of culture prevails in its ranks.
If you have any decency you will apologise for your insults and duplicity and lies. Don't fool yourself into thinking that you are Catholic and I am not. You have no right to talk to me like this. I come here for help and I find you hypocrites. Not one of you had a problem with that comment above.
You think you are a big man the way you get to talk to people like this over the internet? You think I got nothing better to do? Apply your own logic to yourself. If I am a troll then so are you. Internet forums are only for trolls, everyone is a troll.
Hey, calm down. Try to to be rational. Direct your comments, and feelings, at the person you're taking issue with, not the forum man. Most here have tried to be helpful to you, including I.
And realize one thing: no one here is threatened by you not attending the SSPX (or any trad parish) except yourself. So take your threats of attending, or not, a SSPX parish elsewhere. They are uncalled for and prideful. By the way; applying the logic of, 'this person acted in this sinful manner, so the Faith to which he holds must surely be wrong!' will keep you away from Catholicism faster than two shakes of a lamb's tail. The Church is full of sinners and rude people.
Go say a few Hail Mary's; I will too- ask Our Lady to guide your soul and mind right now. (and I will pray to the Infant of Prague for you right now too).
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Tcat I hope you don't leave :nunchaku:! My first post here I asked about a natural remedy and was accused of being a feminist who delayed marriage! IRL I'm no feminist and usually the youngest parent in the room by 10+ years when I'm with my son's peers. You have to be thick skinned on the internet. I hope you stay.
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TCat, I thought you were a fighter?
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Tcat does'nt mind being rude to other people on this forum, and show's little Charity, when it suits him. Have to learn to take what you give... :cool:
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Do you think if you keep ignoring my questions about this that I'm going to forget about it?
http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php?a=topic&t=26719&min=5&num=5
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But if the prayers are only concerning saying mass, cant we still go to a novus ordo priest to get confessions?
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If they can't say Mass and concecrate bread and wine, then they aren't priests. Not for saying Mass, nor any other purpose that requires one to be a priest.
What about if they have been ordained, maybe not up to the level of priest, but to the level of deacon? Deacons hear confessions...
Or are the rites for deacons invalid aswell? :stare:
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Do you think if you keep ignoring my questions about this that I'm going to forget about it?
http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php?a=topic&t=26719&min=5&num=5
. . .
But if the prayers are only concerning saying mass, cant we still go to a novus ordo priest to get confessions?
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If they can't say Mass and concecrate bread and wine, then they aren't priests. Not for saying Mass, nor any other purpose that requires one to be a priest.
What about if they have been ordained, maybe not up to the level of priest, but to the level of deacon? Deacons hear confessions...
Or are the rites for deacons invalid aswell? :stare:
Im not doging your question, I forgot about it, besides its buried in the forum somewhere on a thread deep in posts.
So you ask do I think a decon can hear confessions?
The answer is, from my understanding, that a deacon can do everything a priest can do except say mass. This is the way it is in the novus ordo church and it is common knowledge.
Btw, what abuot your clambering to get me banned?
Are you sorry for the insults you posted against me and your lies?
I am hear to learn but am not perfect, but then again, you are only a man and you hold me up to your standards which mean nothing because you are not a VOP validly ordained priest / bishop,
so your council plus the fact that you not a priest mean little to me, you just a layman like myself and got to learn like everybody else.
just becos you learned before me doesn't make you have right to call for me to be banned IMO.
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First of all, I HAVE NOT LIED--I haven't accused you of anything that I remember other than dodging my question. And you must admit I had good reason for that impression.
Second, I don't want you banned--I know Vladimir said something about that in his post that I liked. Vladimir's take on you seems to be much akin to mine. But at this point, I fall far short of wanting you banned. Like I have said elsewhere--a lot of what you say sounds like my journey to tradition. But the comment about deacons hearing confessions raised my radar in a major way as I never heard of such even in my 40 yrs in the NO.
I hope you stick around. I do feel bad at the possibility of running anybody off who may be sincerely groping for tradition--this forum was my lifeline. BTW--I am not a member of an SSPX Chapel so don't hold our discord against them.
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First of all, I HAVE NOT LIED--I haven't accused you of anything that I remember other than dodging my question. And you must admit I had good reason for that impression.
Second, I don't want you banned--I know Vladimir said something about that in his post that I liked. Vladimir's take on you seems to be much akin to mine. But at this point, I fall far short of wanting you banned. Like I have said elsewhere--a lot of what you say sounds like my journey to tradition. But the comment about deacons hearing confessions raised my radar in a major way as I never heard of such even in my 40 yrs in the NO.
I hope you stick around. I do feel bad at the possibility of running anybody off who may be sincerely groping for tradition--this forum was my lifeline. BTW--I am not a member of an SSPX Chapel so don't hold our discord against them.
Yes. Let us bury our differences and embrace the true faith as one church.
May God bless you.
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I like your posts, TCat. I don't think you're a troll.
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I do...
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Do you think if you keep ignoring my questions about this that I'm going to forget about it?
http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php?a=topic&t=26719&min=5&num=5
. . .
But if the prayers are only concerning saying mass, cant we still go to a novus ordo priest to get confessions?
. . .
If they can't say Mass and concecrate bread and wine, then they aren't priests. Not for saying Mass, nor any other purpose that requires one to be a priest.
What about if they have been ordained, maybe not up to the level of priest, but to the level of deacon? Deacons hear confessions...
Or are the rites for deacons invalid aswell? :stare:
Im not doging your question, I forgot about it, besides its buried in the forum somewhere on a thread deep in posts.
So you ask do I think a decon can hear confessions?
The answer is, from my understanding, that a deacon can do everything a priest can do except say mass. This is the way it is in the novus ordo church and it is common knowledge.
Btw, what abuot your clambering to get me banned?
Are you sorry for the insults you posted against me and your lies?
I am hear to learn but am not perfect, but then again, you are only a man and you hold me up to your standards which mean nothing because you are not a VOP validly ordained priest / bishop,
so your council plus the fact that you not a priest mean little to me, you just a layman like myself and got to learn like everybody else.
just becos you learned before me doesn't make you have right to call for me to be banned IMO.
Novus Odo deacons cannot hear confessions.
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Novus Odo deacons cannot hear confessions.
I don't think so either. I never heard of it. So they do this in Ireland, TCat? Anybody else familiar with NO ever hear of a deacon hearing confessions?
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I haven't met a Novus Ordo priest who hears Confessions. (They do walk-and-talks in jogging pants, as if they're magic fairies who don't need the Church vestments to hear and absolve sins.)
No: the Confessor has to be a priest, and he has to wear the purple stole. That's why priests carry one around, for emergencies. They can't hear you without the purple stole, any more than they can anoint you with pickle juice.
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I haven't met a Novus Ordo priest who hears Confessions. (They do walk-and-talks in jogging pants, as if they're magic fairies who don't need the Church vestments to hear and absolve sins.)
No: the Confessor has to be a priest, and he has to wear the purple stole. That's why priests carry one around, for emergencies. They can't hear you without the purple stole, any more than they can anoint you with pickle juice.
You're full of it.
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Do you think if you keep ignoring my questions about this that I'm going to forget about it?
http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php?a=topic&t=26719&min=5&num=5
. . .
But if the prayers are only concerning saying mass, cant we still go to a novus ordo priest to get confessions?
. . .
If they can't say Mass and concecrate bread and wine, then they aren't priests. Not for saying Mass, nor any other purpose that requires one to be a priest.
What about if they have been ordained, maybe not up to the level of priest, but to the level of deacon? Deacons hear confessions...
Or are the rites for deacons invalid aswell? :stare:
Im not doging your question, I forgot about it, besides its buried in the forum somewhere on a thread deep in posts.
So you ask do I think a decon can hear confessions?
The answer is, from my understanding, that a deacon can do everything a priest can do except say mass. This is the way it is in the novus ordo church and it is common knowledge.
Btw, what abuot your clambering to get me banned?
Are you sorry for the insults you posted against me and your lies?
I am hear to learn but am not perfect, but then again, you are only a man and you hold me up to your standards which mean nothing because you are not a VOP validly ordained priest / bishop,
so your council plus the fact that you not a priest mean little to me, you just a layman like myself and got to learn like everybody else.
just becos you learned before me doesn't make you have right to call for me to be banned IMO.
This is not true. A deacon cannot hear confessions.
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Do you think if you keep ignoring my questions about this that I'm going to forget about it?
http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php?a=topic&t=26719&min=5&num=5
. . .
But if the prayers are only concerning saying mass, cant we still go to a novus ordo priest to get confessions?
. . .
If they can't say Mass and concecrate bread and wine, then they aren't priests. Not for saying Mass, nor any other purpose that requires one to be a priest.
What about if they have been ordained, maybe not up to the level of priest, but to the level of deacon? Deacons hear confessions...
Or are the rites for deacons invalid aswell? :stare:
Im not doging your question, I forgot about it, besides its buried in the forum somewhere on a thread deep in posts.
So you ask do I think a decon can hear confessions?
The answer is, from my understanding, that a deacon can do everything a priest can do except say mass. This is the way it is in the novus ordo church and it is common knowledge.
Btw, what abuot your clambering to get me banned?
Are you sorry for the insults you posted against me and your lies?
I am hear to learn but am not perfect, but then again, you are only a man and you hold me up to your standards which mean nothing because you are not a VOP validly ordained priest / bishop,
so your council plus the fact that you not a priest mean little to me, you just a layman like myself and got to learn like everybody else.
just becos you learned before me doesn't make you have right to call for me to be banned IMO.
Novus Odo deacons cannot hear confessions.
No deacons can hear confessions.
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There is a story in the Fathers of the Desert;
One dday there was a certain monk who could not abide living in the cenobium with the other monks. So he set out to live in a hermitage by himself. The next day he went out to the well to draw water for himself. The jug fell down down. He set it aright and it fell down again. He set it aright again and it fell over. Finally in frustration he dashed it amongst the rocks and it broke into many pieces. From this he learned that what he was trying to escacpe would follow him wherever he would go. He learned that whether he was alone or with others he would have to learn to master his anger.
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I haven't met a Novus Ordo priest who hears Confessions. (They do walk-and-talks in jogging pants, as if they're magic fairies who don't need the Church vestments to hear and absolve sins.)
No: the Confessor has to be a priest, and he has to wear the purple stole. That's why priests carry one around, for emergencies. They can't hear you without the purple stole, any more than they can anoint you with pickle juice.
You're full of it.
Oh come on: tongue in cheek w/ the frustration finding a priest while traveling, but really, our local NO guy is a raging atheist and pro-abortionist. The one before him got married (that's how he "quit"), divorced, and is in Philly now —and he's a far sight better than the atheist priest.
If you're referring my being "full of it" to the stole, I really did believe they have to have the purple stole on; if I'm wrong, correct me. A link would suffice.
Also, I googled it this morning, just to be sure, and people have asked if deacons can hear confessions because apparently, deacons HAVE heard confessions in some American parishes! And CAF said that was a no-no. So it must be something new that's creeping in, for real. (Google it.)
There is a story in the Fathers of the Desert;
One day there was a certain monk who could not abide living in the cenobium with the other monks. So he set out to live in a hermitage by himself. The next day he went out to the well to draw water for himself. The jug fell down down. He set it aright and it fell down again. He set it aright again and it fell over. Finally in frustration he dashed it amongst the rocks and it broke into many pieces. From this he learned that what he was trying to escape would follow him wherever he would go. He learned that whether he was alone or with others he would have to learn to master his anger.
:laugh1: Explain that to me. It sounds like a "grasshopper" Buddhist saying and I never get those. Like, ever. Tell it like I'm stupid. How could the jug fall down? How did he get water?
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I haven't met a Novus Ordo priest who hears Confessions. (They do walk-and-talks in jogging pants, as if they're magic fairies who don't need the Church vestments to hear and absolve sins.)
No: the Confessor has to be a priest, and he has to wear the purple stole. That's why priests carry one around, for emergencies. They can't hear you without the purple stole, any more than they can anoint you with pickle juice.
You're full of it.
Oh come on: tongue in cheek w/ the frustration finding a priest while traveling, but really, our local NO guy is a raging atheist and pro-abortionist. The one before him got married (that's how he "quit"), divorced, and is in Philly now —and he's a far sight better than the atheist priest.
If you're referring my being "full of it" to the stole, I really did believe they have to have the purple stole on; if I'm wrong, correct me. A link would suffice.
Also, I googled it this morning, just to be sure, and people have asked if deacons can hear confessions because apparently, deacons HAVE heard confessions in some American parishes! And CAF said that was a no-no. So it must be something new that's creeping in, for real. (Google it.)
There is a story in the Fathers of the Desert;
One day there was a certain monk who could not abide living in the cenobium with the other monks. So he set out to live in a hermitage by himself. The next day he went out to the well to draw water for himself. The jug fell down down. He set it aright and it fell down again. He set it aright again and it fell over. Finally in frustration he dashed it amongst the rocks and it broke into many pieces. From this he learned that what he was trying to escape would follow him wherever he would go. He learned that whether he was alone or with others he would have to learn to master his anger.
:laugh1: Explain that to me. It sounds like a "grasshopper" Buddhist saying and I never get those. Like, ever. Tell it like I'm stupid. How could the jug fall down? How did he get water?
He didn't get any water. He learned that he would have to work on his predominant vice (anger) whether he was in a community or alone in a hermitage. Anything in common with the Buddhists would be that truth that would hopefully bring them into the Catholic Church.