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Traditional Catholic Faith => General Discussion => Topic started by: John Grace on September 19, 2012, 03:12:00 PM
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I noticed on the Youth Defence Facebook page.
http://www.facebook.com/YouthDefence
Marion Murphy Ray the final 'solution' for Hitler was to eliminate Jews, Eastern Europeans & what he defined as undesireables by gasing & abortion. The Pro-aborts have the exact same mindset.
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The comment was liked by 7 people. One includes 'Youth Defence'. I realise a number of individuals maintain the Facebook page but the above comment is filled with error and false information. I can allow for lack of knowledge/awareness to a degree but people need to make themselves aware of the truth. The comment above is total rubbish.For one thing Hitler was a man who encouraged large families and was against abortion.I commend YD for their great work since 1992 but these type of comments show total ignorance.
The fact an official YD person liked it suggests it is an official position in relation to the 'h0Ɩ0cαųst'. Again we see Hitler depicted as the devil incarnate yet sloppy emotive comment about gas chambers and the final solution. The German word is very clear.
I don't use Facebook but perhaps those who do might point out their error.There is some literature available.
The recently published book Hitler Democrat is good. It was written by Degrelle and the Barnes Review recently published it.
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Also what were Poles doing to ethnic Germans before and after WWII?
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For one thing Hitler was a man who encouraged large families and was against abortion.
Only for the right sort of people.
If one is against abortion for "pne's own kind" but in favour of it for others, then one is not against abortion.
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Also what were Poles doing to ethnic Germans before and after WWII?
after WWII, they got property that belonged to Germans, stoeln to make Uncle Joe happy with his conquests......prior to WWII, not familiar, please enlighten...I do know that Germans lost land that belonged to them for centuries..
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If one is against abortion for "pne's own kind" but in favour of it for others, then one is not against abortion.
From Mein Kampf Volume I, Chapter 10:
"The demand that defective people be prevented from propagating equally defective offspring is a demand of the clearest reason and if systematically executed represents the most humane act of mankind...The passing pain of a century will redeem milleniums from suffering."
From Mein Kampf Volume II, Chapter 2:
"It must let it be known that it is no disgrace, but only a misfortune deserving of pity to be sick and weakly, but it is a crime, and hence a disgrace to to dishonor one's misfortune by one's own selfish egotism in burdening the innocent generations with it; it is much better that the innocently sick, renouncing a child of his own, bestows his love and tenderness upon a poor, unknown young scion of his own nationality."
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after WWII, they got property that belonged to Germans, stoeln to make Uncle Joe happy with his conquests......prior to WWII, not familiar, please enlighten...I do know that Germans lost land that belonged to them for centuries..
The Poles had Germans under their rule who wanted to return to Germany, against Wilson's principle of self-determination and refused to let Danzig go, even though Hitler made them an offer for compensatory territory in Slovakia.
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"What were the Poles doing to Germans before and after, World War II?"
What were the Czechs doing? They did wholesale ethnic cleansing of 3 milion Germans.
What were the Americans and British doing? They did wholesale city bombing of innocents.
What was the Red Army doing? They raped and murdered 2 million Germans and then ethnically cleansed up to 15 million Germans.
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If one is against abortion for "pne's own kind" but in favour of it for others, then one is not against abortion.
From Mein Kampf Volume I, Chapter 10:
"The demand that defective people be prevented from propagating equally defective offspring is a demand of the clearest reason and if systematically executed represents the most humane act of mankind...The passing pain of a century will redeem milleniums from suffering."
From Mein Kampf Volume II, Chapter 2:
"It must let it be known that it is no disgrace, but only a misfortune deserving of pity to be sick and weakly, but it is a crime, and hence a disgrace to to dishonor one's misfortune by one's own selfish egotism in burdening the innocent generations with it; it is much better that the innocently sick, renouncing a child of his own, bestows his love and tenderness upon a poor, unknown young scion of his own nationality."
Is that magisterial?
Are you seriously presenting that as a justification??
Am I meant to read that and think, "Ah yes, now I see! Abortion of defectives is a good thing!"?
Actually, defective people are morally good for society. They give others a sense of perspective, and encourage virtue.
On the other hand, fostering the desire to eliminate them is bad for society.
"Whatsoever you do to the least of My brethren, you do to Me."
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Actually, defective people are morally good for society. They give others a sense of perspective, and encourage virtue.
So you would give one your job?
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What were the Americans and British doing? They did wholesale city bombing of innocents.
Ah yes forgot to add that Eisenhower starved 1 million German POWs.
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What were the Americans and British doing? They did wholesale city bombing of innocents.
Ah yes forgot to add that Eisenhower starved 1 million German POWs.
Never heard of that one. What is your source?
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Never heard of that one. What is your source?
Other Losses, 1989, James Bacque
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Actually, defective people are morally good for society. They give others a sense of perspective, and encourage virtue.
So you would give one your job?
Is that all you think about??
I wouldn't want someone who took my job to be killed. Would you?
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Actually, defective people are morally good for society. They give others a sense of perspective, and encourage virtue.
So you would give one your job?
Do you think it is permissible to do evil, that good may come of it?
(For example: aborting "defectives", so that your job will be more secure.)
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What were the Americans and British doing? They did wholesale city bombing of innocents.
Ah yes forgot to add that Eisenhower starved 1 million German POWs.
Never heard of that one. What is your source?
Amongst other serious writers the brave Canadian James Bacque names 1 million German Wehrmacht prisoners of war (POW), who were murdered in the Rheinwiesenlager camps by the French loser army and the US-army, basically under the command of the German-hating Jew and Supreme Commander of the US troops, David Eisenhower (http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Eisenhower), after the end of WW2.
Murdered because the victorious powers let our brave German Wehrmacht soldiers starve deliberately -- like blasting away their little army tents with bulldozers, so they were killed by rain & winter. Or, to quote the website linked below: "If relatives tried to supply food for captived soldiers, they were shot dead". Etc.
More recent European and German research teams had to raise the number of murdered German POWs to about 1.4 million Wehrmacht soldiers who died in the Rheinwiesenlager dead camps, and it's expected that the actual number is even higher (some say 2 millions). Some Catholic friends of mine lost their fathers or grand-fathers there, and they're are in such research teams because they want to know the truth.
About 3,4 million German soldiers were put in these Rheinwiesenlager dead camps initially. By the way, the large German Rhine river area is a traditional Catholic area (the brave former SSPX district superior and anti-sellout priest Fr. Maeßen is a Rheinländer).
I'm amazed you don't know about the Rheinwiesenlager. This should be basic knowledge for everybody who deals with WW2. But the victories usually write a distorted history, and so it's not you to blame. In this case of WW1 & WW2, the German-hating anti-Christian Jews propagate their nasty lies until now. But even we brain-washed Germans know about the Rheinwiesenlager today, because just too many of us eye-witnessed what happened. Usually we don't talk about this publicly yet, but it's remembered, as is Nemmersdorf, Dresden and a zillion other war crimes. Soon, after the upcoming WW3 and The Chastisement, Catholic justice will be served also to us Germans.
God bless Bishop Richard Williamson for unmasking the "h0Ɩ0cαųst" lie at the end of 2008, published in that famous Swedish TV in the beginning of 2009. He cleared the way for more, and for allowing the revisionists and their work to be released to a much broader public. Today even my dumb apostate neighbour knows that something's not right about the "h0Ɩ0cαųst" because of "that English pastor"...
For a quick-start: http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Rheinwiesenlager
P.S. Metapedia is not my favorite source because they're not Catholic, but for any historical or political question it's about 6 million times better than Jєωιѕн Wikipedia. So at least a good start.
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Actually, defective people are morally good for society. They give others a sense of perspective, and encourage virtue.
So you would give one your job?
Do you think it is permissible to do evil, that good may come of it?
(For example: aborting "defectives", so that your job will be more secure.)
not sure why the job question was asked.....
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What were the Americans and British doing? They did wholesale city bombing of innocents.
Ah yes forgot to add that Eisenhower starved 1 million German POWs.
Never heard of that one. What is your source?
I heard about the starvation and murders of Germans from my grandfather when I was a wee lad in the 70's, he served in the navy 1944-1945 and worked some w/OSS
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If one is against abortion for "pne's own kind" but in favour of it for others, then one is not against abortion.
From Mein Kampf Volume I, Chapter 10:
"The demand that defective people be prevented from propagating equally defective offspring is a demand of the clearest reason and if systematically executed represents the most humane act of mankind...The passing pain of a century will redeem milleniums from suffering."
From Mein Kampf Volume II, Chapter 2:
"It must let it be known that it is no disgrace, but only a misfortune deserving of pity to be sick and weakly, but it is a crime, and hence a disgrace to to dishonor one's misfortune by one's own selfish egotism in burdening the innocent generations with it; it is much better that the innocently sick, renouncing a child of his own, bestows his love and tenderness upon a poor, unknown young scion of his own nationality."
Is that magisterial?
Are you seriously presenting that as a justification??
Am I meant to read that and think, "Ah yes, now I see! Abortion of defectives is a good thing!"?
Actually, defective people are morally good for society. They give others a sense of perspective, and encourage virtue.
On the other hand, fostering the desire to eliminate them is bad for society.
"Whatsoever you do to the least of My brethren, you do to Me."
Perhaps, Clare, he should instead busy himself reading the great sermons of Bishop von Galen http://www.euthanasia.com/galen.html
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If one is against abortion for "pne's own kind" but in favour of it for others, then one is not against abortion.
From Mein Kampf Volume I, Chapter 10:
"The demand that defective people be prevented from propagating equally defective offspring is a demand of the clearest reason and if systematically executed represents the most humane act of mankind...The passing pain of a century will redeem milleniums from suffering."
From Mein Kampf Volume II, Chapter 2:
"It must let it be known that it is no disgrace, but only a misfortune deserving of pity to be sick and weakly, but it is a crime, and hence a disgrace to to dishonor one's misfortune by one's own selfish egotism in burdening the innocent generations with it; it is much better that the innocently sick, renouncing a child of his own, bestows his love and tenderness upon a poor, unknown young scion of his own nationality."
Is that magisterial?
Are you seriously presenting that as a justification??
Am I meant to read that and think, "Ah yes, now I see! Abortion of defectives is a good thing!"?
Actually, defective people are morally good for society. They give others a sense of perspective, and encourage virtue.
On the other hand, fostering the desire to eliminate them is bad for society.
"Whatsoever you do to the least of My brethren, you do to Me."
Perhaps, Clare, he should instead busy himself reading the great sermons of Bishop von Galen http://www.euthanasia.com/galen.html
http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php?a=topic&t=20640
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Actually, defective people are morally good for society. They give others a sense of perspective, and encourage virtue.
So you would give one your job?
Do you think it is permissible to do evil, that good may come of it?
(For example: aborting "defectives", so that your job will be more secure.)
not sure why the job question was asked.....
He always brings up having to lose one's job to a lesser mortal!
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For a quick-start: http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Rheinwiesenlager
P.S. Metapedia is not my favorite source because they're not Catholic, but for any historical or political question it's about 6 million times better than Jєωιѕн Wikipedia. So at least a good start.
OK, thanks, you learn something every day.
Was watching the BBC's World at War docuмentary and it said the 1.5 million German soldiers died in prisoner of war camps. If the USA camps caused to die close to a million as your link says, then the Russian number is very likely way lower than the reality, no?
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Russian equally, or more, barbaric....they never released nor returned prisoners, at least, too many of them......their wholesale slaughter and raping, pillaging was horrendous.
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Actually, defective people are morally good for society. They give others a sense of perspective, and encourage virtue.
So you would give one your job?
Do you think it is permissible to do evil, that good may come of it?
(For example: aborting "defectives", so that your job will be more secure.)
not sure why the job question was asked.....
He always brings up having to lose one's job to a lesser mortal!
wow, how Randian/Libertarian of him....
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For a quick-start: http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Rheinwiesenlager
P.S. Metapedia is not my favorite source because they're not Catholic, but for any historical or political question it's about 6 million times better than Jєωιѕн Wikipedia. So at least a good start.
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OK, thanks, you learn something every day.
Was watching the BBC's World at War docuмentary and it said the 1.5 million German soldiers died in prisoner of war camps in Russia. If the USA camps caused to die close to a million as your link says, then the 1.5 million Russian number is very likely way lower than the reality, no?
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Is that all you think about??
I wouldn't want someone who took my job to be killed. Would you?
I don't believe in euthanasia however neither do I believe the retarded should get a job over me.
Do you believe in the death penalty.
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He always brings up having to lose one's job to a lesser mortal!
You can thank the good old sɛҳuąƖ revolution, liberating you women to 'go' with any man, to the long lines outside the psychiatrist's office.
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I noticed on the Youth Defence Facebook page.
http://www.facebook.com/YouthDefence
Marion Murphy Ray the final 'solution' for Hitler was to eliminate Jews, Eastern Europeans & what he defined as undesireables by gasing & abortion. The Pro-aborts have the exact same mindset.2 hours ago
The comment was liked by 7 people. One includes 'Youth Defence'. I realise a number of individuals maintain the Facebook page but the above comment is filled with error and false information. I can allow for lack of knowledge/awareness to a degree but people need to make themselves aware of the truth. The comment above is total rubbish.For one thing Hitler was a man who encouraged large families and was against abortion.I commend YD for their great work since 1992 but these type of comments show total ignorance.
The fact an official YD person liked it suggests it is an official position in relation to the 'h0Ɩ0cαųst'. Again we see Hitler depicted as the devil incarnate yet sloppy emotive comment about gas chambers and the final solution. The German word is very clear.
I don't use Facebook but perhaps those who do might point out their error.There is some literature available.
The recently published book Hitler Democrat is good. It was written by Degrelle and the Barnes Review recently published it.
Ironically the Jews lead the abortion industry and consider all non-Jews as "lesser human beings". Jєωιѕн abortionists have no problem snuffing out goy babies with a clear conscience.
The Hitler thing is way over the top as usual, I don't think 2 percent of the population these days has any idea of what NS Germany was all about due in part to two generations of thorough "h0Ɩ0cαųst" indoctrination.
I think they need to just declare Hitler "Satan" and get it over with already. :rolleyes:
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Perhaps, Clare, he should instead busy himself reading the great sermons of Bishop von Galen http://www.euthanasia.com/galen.html
Oh I'm sorry I didn't realize that reading Mein Kampf made me a nαzι. :rolleyes:
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not sure why the job question was asked.....
Because of the sympathy one sees on here of the retarded perhaps?
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Is that all you think about??
I wouldn't want someone who took my job to be killed. Would you?
I don't believe in euthanasia however neither do I believe the retarded should get a job over me.
That has nothing to do with the thread though. It's about abortion (and the big H) so why bring up employment??
Do you believe in the death penalty.
Yes, for people guilty of serious crimes.
Not for innocent "defective" people.
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wow, how Randian/Libertarian of him....
Actually the Randian concept is the self-interest of the individual over the nation in question. I am a nationalist.
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Perhaps, Clare, he should instead busy himself reading the great sermons of Bishop von Galen http://www.euthanasia.com/galen.html
Oh I'm sorry I didn't realize that reading Mein Kampf made me a nαzι. :rolleyes:
Reading it doesn't.
Quoting it in defence of the indefensible does raise a few questions and eyebrows though!
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Yes, for people guilty of serious crimes.
Not for innocent "defective" people.
There were quite a few people convicted of serious crimes who relied on their "mental disabilities" to escape the death penalty.
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Quoting it in defence of the indefensible does raise a few questions and eyebrows though!
You're worrying about me reading this book and about me talking about those with mental disabilities when you should be worrying about your own country becoming the multi-racial, multi-ethnic nation it is today.
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not sure why the job question was asked.....
Because of the sympathy one sees on here of the retarded perhaps?
And is it wrong to sympathise with the "retarded"?
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And is it wrong to sympathise with the "retarded"?
When it puts those who are mentally healthy down, then yes it is wrong. And retarded is the correct word so I don't know why you put that in parentheses.
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For a quick-start: http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Rheinwiesenlager
P.S. Metapedia is not my favorite source because they're not Catholic, but for any historical or political question it's about 6 million times better than Jєωιѕн Wikipedia. So at least a good start.
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OK, thanks, you learn something every day.
Was watching the BBC's World at War docuмentary and it said the 1.5 million German soldiers died in prisoner of war camps in Russia. If the USA camps caused to die close to a million as your link says, then the 1.5 million Russian number is very likely way lower than the reality, no?
Maybe you should realize how many German civilians were raped and butchered by Red Army heathens when the Western allies refused to negotiate for conditional surrender on Germany's Western Front as to allow them to defend themselves from the Communist-Atheist Soviet onslaught that allowed total devastation of Germany and the deaths of millions.
What happened to the German people at the end of that war was nothing short of genocide, Jєωιѕн revenge at the hand of their Communist and "democratic" puppets. One day at judgement this will all come out and those responsible for their crimes against humanity, crimes against Almighty God will havt to be accountable.
For now though we will have to settle for "Victor's Justice".
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Quoting it in defence of the indefensible does raise a few questions and eyebrows though!
You're worrying about me reading this book ...
No, quoting it in support of euthanasing defectives is a bit worrying though.
.... and about me talking about those with mental disabilities when you should be worrying about your own country becoming the multi-racial, multi-ethnic nation it is today.
No, you are effectively defending euthanasia and abortion. I think that is far worse than people of different races and ethnicities co-existing.
Gnats and camels.
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No, you are effectively defending euthanasia and abortion. I think that is far worse than people of different races and ethnicities co-existing.
Gnats and camels.
Who is defending abortion and euthanasia?
And different races and ethnicites cannot co-exist when they are all thrown together in a single space.
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And is it wrong to sympathise with the "retarded"?
When it puts those who are mentally healthy down, then yes it is wrong.
Which I am not doing.
Although I do feel more sympathy for the unfit than for the "strong" who would defend the elimination of them.
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Who is defending abortion and euthanasia?
What exactly was the point of your Mein Kampf quotes then?
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Which I am not doing.
Although I do feel more sympathy for the unfit than for the "strong" who would defend the elimination of them.
Well the man who is strong is one who is physically strong with sound character, not some useless intellectual that's for sure.
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What exactly was the point of your Mein Kampf quotes then?
To quote Hitler's words perhaps?
Hey Belloc you do realize the Americans and British did euthanasia as well correct?
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Quoting it in defence of the indefensible does raise a few questions and eyebrows though!
You're worrying about me reading this book ...
No, quoting it in support of euthanasing defectives is a bit worrying though.
.... and about me talking about those with mental disabilities when you should be worrying about your own country becoming the multi-racial, multi-ethnic nation it is today.
No, you are effectively defending euthanasia and abortion. I think that is far worse than people of different races and ethnicities co-existing.
Gnats and camels.
Yet you would defend your country's borders being thrown wide open by a few usurpers within your political system allowing millions of third-worlders in and effectively biologically genociding the indigineous native British peoples that inhabited that small island.
I just don't understand how all these Hitler-haters who decry their "genocide" and hatred of other people yet are just delighted with the ethnic selected extinction of their own. :rolleyes:
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I just don't understand how all these Hitler-haters who decry their "genocide" and hatred of other people yet are just delighted with the ethnic selected extinction of their own. :rolleyes:
It is the useless pacifism and supposedly "caring" side of the liberals, though they "care" about minorities from the safety of their nicely-trimmed lawns, mowed by immigrants of course, and their upper-class suburbs.
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For a quick-start: http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Rheinwiesenlager
P.S. Metapedia is not my favorite source because they're not Catholic, but for any historical or political question it's about 6 million times better than Jєωιѕн Wikipedia. So at least a good start.
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OK, thanks, you learn something every day.
Was watching the BBC's World at War docuмentary and it said the 1.5 million German soldiers died in prisoner of war camps in Russia. If the USA camps caused to die close to a million as your link says, then the 1.5 million Russian number is very likely way lower than the reality, no?
Yes, the Russian death camps in Siberia were the worst, see Alexander Solschenizyns' book "Archipel GULAG".
I've no numbers about the Russian dead camps at hand right now and how many of my countrymen they murdered there, but I'm sure that these Russian number is very likely way lower than the reality, yes.
But I know for sure that most of the Wehrmacht soldiers (so next to German ones, many East European ones, and even some brave French divisions) who were so unlucky to be captured by the Russians, were put there and only a very small number survived these dead camps. I know many families whose fathers or grandfathers ended in Siberia and most of them never returned.
The Jєωιѕн Communists who took over Russia in 1917 are the perfect mass murderers, for sure. That's because the Communism is the Scourge of God because of our apostasy.
By the way, some of you probably know this, but some won't: In WW2 the Red Army mass murderers tried to attack Europe two weeks before German chancellor Adolf H. learned about it and so had to start the counter-offensive Operation Barbarossa (which only worked so well initially and nearly took Moscow, because the Red Army was already in attack formation and wasn't prepared to deflect the enemy's preemptive strike. And then, well, unfortunately the US helped "Uncle Joe (Stalin)", the biggest mass murderer so far...)
According to most European Catholic visionaries, the Russian Communists will unleash WW3 and totally invade entire Europe (and flood most of England, and the good Bishop knows this well) when they feel encircled too much by the US and its NATO. If only the Catholics would have fulfilled Fatima...! But like brave Fr Pfeiffer said, Pius XII was the pope who failed Fatima. And Bishop Williamson said that also Pius XI failed Fatima...
By the way, I would not recommend to listen to the British BBC -- or any other liberal Brit like Clare -- in order to learn about historical or political stuff, in particular when it comes to topics about Germany. :-)
Some of you will probably remember the BBC's 9/11 live report when this British journalist was talking in close distance to the 9/11 place where two towers were already collapsed, and right behind her you could see the 3rd tower still perfectly standing, and then she read her prepared Spielberg-script saying "Oh and now, horror, now we see the 3rd tower collapsing!" ... when we saw in the very same BBC report behind the journalist, that the 3rd tower didn't collapse at all but was still standing, because the demolition experts hadn't blasted it yet... And then of course, when the moderators noticed their script bug, the live report was cut...
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I just don't understand how all these Hitler-haters who decry their "genocide" and hatred of other people yet are just delighted with the ethnic selected extinction of their own. :rolleyes:
It is the useless pacifism and supposedly "caring" side of the liberals, though they "care" about minorities from the safety of their nicely-trimmed lawns, mowed by immigrants of course, and their upper-class suburbs.
Right the ol "Limosuine liberals" crusading for the underprivledged from the saftey of their gated communities and kids in private schools. Same ol story.
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Right the ol "Limosuine liberals" crusading for the underprivledged from the saftey of their gated communities and kids in private schools. Same ol story.
Yes it reminds me that back in the 60's and 70's racial busing was supported the strongest among those who had kids in private schools.
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For one thing Hitler was a man who encouraged large families and was against abortion.
Only for the right sort of people.
If one is against abortion for "pne's own kind" but in favour of it for others, then one is not against abortion.
When and where did Hitler say that?
Did he oppose abortion for everyone then? His defenders here have not demonstrated that he did. Quite the reverse.
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Because of the sympathy one sees on here of the retarded perhaps?
And is it wrong to sympathise with the "retarded"?
This is where we are at in society...
If only we were.
Didn't you realise that the abortion of "defectives" is legal upto birth?
Do you think that's good? Is that preferable to sympathy with the least of Christ's brethren?
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... or any other liberal Brit like Clare ...
:laugh1: I'm upholding Catholic teaching against members who appear to think it can be disregarded, who don't even pay it lip-service, and that makes me the liberal!
No, sorry. I am the hardliner here.
Abortion and euthanasia are wrong, wrong, wrong; and it is those who gloss over that inconvenient fact who are, paradoxically, the liberal dissenters.
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Yes exactly Pax, I don't want to harm the retarded but nor do I want them given the same place in society as myself. A mentally healthy white male should be the one who should get a job but under affirmative action well...women, minorities, and the mentally disabled will get a "step-up" for the job.
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there has been no greater h0Ɩ0cαųst than abortion.
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there has been no greater h0Ɩ0cαųst than abortion.
Which was caused by feminism, cultural Marxism, and the Jews...