Author Topic: Aboriginal Theology (Read 3261 times)

OHCA · « **Reply #15 on:** August 12, 2014, 11:11:32 PM »

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My Christianity is not based on the fear of hell...

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Bruce

Of course not--hell isn't real. And if it is, only mean-ass traditionalists go there.

poche · « **Reply #16 on:** August 12, 2014, 11:26:43 PM »

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Quote from: Viva Cristo Rey
When you start separating people by ethnic groups, it lacks the four marks
Of the Church which one, holy , Catholic, Apostolic.

I agree with you whole heartedly. Inculturation is not about separating people by ethnic groups in the church, creating Aboriginal, Celtic, women liturgies. Liturgy is the universal prayer of the church, but what Vatican II allowed is for cultural expression of the concepts outlined by the universal prayer (liturgy) of the church. That is all we are talking about

When I talk about aboriginal theology I am only talking about incorporating indigenous symbols, etc into the mass. That is no different than what the traditional church did at the time of the Romans, nor any different than when the church moved north into Europe incorporating European symbols into church design, or expressions of piety. All I am talking about is incorporating what is in my own culture to contribute towards the universal prayer of the church.

Inculturation is not about separation it is about creating a conversation between Holy Mother, the Church and indigenous communiites...thereby allowing our people to contribute to the universal church.

Bruce

Actually ther ewas inculturation long before Vatican II. pope Gregory's advice to St Augustine of Canturbury was about inculturation.

poche · « **Reply #17 on:** August 12, 2014, 11:31:18 PM »

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Nadir....what is it that Matthew Fox teaches is evil? How would you conclude that Matthew Fox is evil in himself and a servant of Lucifer. Those are pretty broad statements without substantitive examples or backgrounders.

How is drawing from the Hebrew notion of Original Blessing heretical when the centre of Augustine's point was not the notion of Original sin, but an explanation of why it is wise to baptize people as infants?

My Christianity is not based on the fear of hell but the love of Jesus, so I am open to your arguements but you need to make them and not just resort to tired rhetoric about condemnation.

If you are going to make points, then back them up...that is what I am interested in.

Bruce

The Congregation of the Doctrine of the Faithful (then run by then Cardinal Ratzinger nos Pope emeritus Benedict) determined that what Matthew Fox teaches is inconsistent with what is taught by the Catholic Faith.

poche · « **Reply #18 on:** August 12, 2014, 11:33:18 PM »

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Quote from: trickster

My Christianity is not based on the fear of hell...

. . .

Bruce

Of course not--hell isn't real. And if it is, only mean-ass traditionalists go there.

Alphonsus Ligouri said that Hell is popullated predominantly by people who did not believe in its existence.

OHCA · « **Reply #19 on:** August 12, 2014, 11:57:03 PM »

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Nadir....what is it that Matthew Fox teaches is evil? How would you conclude that Matthew Fox is evil in himself and a servant of Lucifer. Those are pretty broad statements without substantitive examples or backgrounders.

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Bruce

So you don't see anything evil about a baptized Catholic, purportedly ordained Catholic priest, leaving the Church and the Catholic priesthood, and going to the heretical Anglican Church?

And you don't see anything evil about said baptized Catholic professing un-Catholic ideas--worshipping earth; referring to God in the feminine; and his cosmic/eco "masses?" Ideas that are pagan and not even heretical notions of Christianity?

Matthew,

Please tell me that you see through the "I'm here to learn" ruse and recognize that the Tricker is here to proselytize for pagan voodoo new-agism.