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Offline Hobbledehoy

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Do other countriescultures embrace conspiracy?
« Reply #30 on: August 22, 2013, 12:42:06 PM »
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    We have to make a distinction between "conspiracy theorists" such as David Icke -- and those who speak uncomfortable truths, and are therefore falsely labeled as "conspiracy theorists."

    Cognitive dissonance (the discomfort one feels when being faced with uncomfortable new information) is the root cause of truth-tellers who deal with verifiable facts being falsely labeled as "conspiracy theorists."

    The corporate/government media (and if anyone thinks the use of that term is theoretical, he or she is not paying attention) deals primarily with spin, not with verifiable facts.

    Verifiable facts are not the focus of the controlled media. Therefore ignorant people tend to believe lies spun by the media/government machine, and fail to do their own research. They do this partially out of laziness, and party because of their cognitive dissonance, and party because they have been trained to label anything not on ABC/NBC/CBS/CNN/CSPAN/FOX as "conspiracy theory."

    When someone like David Icke copies verifiable facts from other sources without giving attribution, and makes this 98 % of what he says, and then slips in 2% of ridiculousness, it serves the purpose of discrediting the 98% of the information (which are verifiable facts.) This would be the behavior of a disinformation agent.

    Throwing around the term "conspiracy theory" is a tactic often used by disinformation agents, in order to discredit verifiable information, and to scare people away from both the true information as well as the source of the information. Interesting tactic.

    p.s. I worked for years as a journalist, as a journalism teacher, and later as a sociologist and social psychologist.


    This is also what I have observed.

    The term "conspiracy theorists" are used against those who menace the ideological platforms of leftists or who threaten to disturb the comfort that the "media lemmings" get from the distortions and biases of the liberal bourgeois elitists who cannot help but continue in reveling over the corpse of the American middle-class, which has been brutally raped and murdered by socialist chicanery and orchestrated financial disaster.

    The term is also used against anyone who voices right reason and the tenets of Christianity against the immorality and decadence of the leftist oligarchy that arrogates to itself the right/duty to dictate moral values to a people too willing to negotiate away moral rectitude and honesty for a comforting and conforming mediocrity.
    Please ignore all that I have written regarding sedevacantism.


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    Do other countriescultures embrace conspiracy?
    « Reply #31 on: August 22, 2013, 01:06:44 PM »
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    He has a much bigger following in the US than here.  He is pretty unique and ever now and again BBC4 will make a program about him so students taking drugs can listen and consider his arguments and drunken students can laugh.


    I wonder if the UK will do the same thing with Alex Jones.  


    I think we have had our chance.  You can listen to Jones over here if you click on his stuff, but he is not syndicate on any cable TV channel to the best of my knowledge.  The closest thing we had is some edgy investigative videos on Netflix.  But basically Brits are cynics and we tend to believe in cock up 99 percent of the time and conspiracy less than 1%


    That's why so many Brits still believe the government/media spin on 7/7 to this day, despite it being patently absurd.

    Also, last I heard H.E. Bp. Williamson still wasn't a Yank.

    Anyway, what matters is the truth, and not the percentage of people who believe lies. 99.999999999% of the population believing a lie still doesn't make it true.
    "Let us thank God for having called us to His holy faith. It is a great gift, and the number of those who thank God for it is small."
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    Do other countriescultures embrace conspiracy?
    « Reply #32 on: September 06, 2013, 08:19:09 AM »
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    We have to make a distinction between "conspiracy theorists" such as David Icke -- and those who speak uncomfortable truths, and are therefore falsely labeled as "conspiracy theorists."

    Cognitive dissonance (the discomfort one feels when being faced with uncomfortable new information) is the root cause of truth-tellers who deal with verifiable facts being falsely labeled as "conspiracy theorists."

    The corporate/government media (and if anyone thinks the use of that term is theoretical, he or she is not paying attention) deals primarily with spin, not with verifiable facts.

    Verifiable facts are not the focus of the controlled media. Therefore ignorant people tend to believe lies spun by the media/government machine, and fail to do their own research. They do this partially out of laziness, and party because of their cognitive dissonance, and party because they have been trained to label anything not on ABC/NBC/CBS/CNN/CSPAN/FOX as "conspiracy theory."

    When someone like David Icke copies verifiable facts from other sources without giving attribution, and makes this 98 % of what he says, and then slips in 2% of ridiculousness, it serves the purpose of discrediting the 98% of the information (which are verifiable facts.) This would be the behavior of a disinformation agent.

    Throwing around the term "conspiracy theory" is a tactic often used by disinformation agents, in order to discredit verifiable information, and to scare people away from both the true information as well as the source of the information. Interesting tactic.

    p.s. I worked for years as a journalist, as a journalism teacher, and later as a sociologist and social psychologist.


    This is also what I have observed.

    The term "conspiracy theorists" are used against those who menace the ideological platforms of leftists or who threaten to disturb the comfort that the "media lemmings" get from the distortions and biases of the liberal bourgeois elitists who cannot help but continue in reveling over the corpse of the American middle-class, which has been brutally raped and murdered by socialist chicanery and orchestrated financial disaster.

    The term is also used against anyone who voices right reason and the tenets of Christianity against the immorality and decadence of the leftist oligarchy that arrogates to itself the right/duty to dictate moral values to a people too willing to negotiate away moral rectitude and honesty for a comforting and conforming mediocrity.


    Amen Hobbles.