Author Topic: A question for those in the know (Read 866 times)

Miseremini · « **on:** May 14, 2016, 10:57:04 PM »

Holy oils are blessed by the Bishop during Holy Week. They are to be used for one year only then any from last year is to be burnt on Holy Saturday.

Question: Since there are no Bishops in the U.S., where does the SSPX get their Holy Oils from?

Also where do the Resistance priests get their oils from?

Miseremini · « **Reply #1 on:** May 15, 2016, 10:51:51 PM »

Is there an ex-seminarian here who might remember where the SSPX acquired their Holy Oil for Extreme Unction?

Does anyone know where the independent priests acquire theirs?

How might this affect our reception of anointings?

Are they just using Mazolla oil from the cupboard?

Geremia · « **Reply #2 on:** May 16, 2016, 12:11:30 PM »

I've wondered this, too.

mw2016 · « **Reply #3 on:** May 17, 2016, 01:40:59 PM »

Quote from: Miseremini

Holy oils are blessed by the Bishop during Holy Week. They are to be used for one year only then any from last year is to be burnt on Holy Saturday.

Question: Since there are no Bishops in the U.S., where does the SSPX get their Holy Oils from?

Also where do the Resistance priests get their oils from?

SSPX Bp. Tissier de Mallerais lives in Oak Park, IL at the Priory there.

Matthew · « **Reply #4 on:** May 17, 2016, 01:55:33 PM »

A bishop consecrates the holy oils (Chrism, Oil of the Catechumens, etc.). Back at the Seminary, this was done on Holy Thursday (at the Chrism Mass).

Only a deacon or higher can touch these holy oils (or maybe it's just Chrism, I'm not sure) -- note that only a deacon or higher can touch the Blessed Sacrament!

I remember that various seminarians would take packages of the holy oils (wrapped, in boxes) back to their local SSPX chapels so each chapel would have a supply.

Of course, post-9/11 this became a bit more tricky...

And in one case, a seminarian left the box of oils on top of a cab. So they were lost.

Anyhow, this brings up an interesting point: the need for BISHOP(S) and not just a priest, to run an independent chapel or an entire Resistance.

A Catholic can't be like a presbyterian:
1. get ordained
2. set up shop, find a congregation
3. PROFIT!

A Catholic NEEDS a bishop, at least on the periphery, for things like
1. Future priests
2. Sacrament of Confirmation
3. Holy oils
4. Blessing/consecration of churches
5. Consecration of sacred vessels used for Mass
etc.

That is why the situation in Boston, KY is so grave. They have cut themselves off from Bishop Williamson and the other 2 Resistant bishops (i.e., all the faithful ones). How can they be a completely "independent" operation, with no bishop(s)? This won't work, not even for a lifeboat or catechombs operation. What are they, presbyterians?

Ladislaus · « **Reply #5 on:** May 17, 2016, 02:35:48 PM »

Quote from: Matthew

That is why the situation in Boston, KY is so grave. They have cut themselves off from Bishop Williamson and the other 2 Resistant bishops (i.e., all the faithful ones). How can they be a completely "independent" operation, with no bishop(s)? This won't work, not even for a lifeboat or catechombs operation. What are they, presbyterians?

But they have a bishop

... Josaphat the New.

Geremia · « **Reply #6 on:** May 17, 2016, 02:36:35 PM »

Quote from: mw2016

SSPX Bp. Tissier de Mallerais lives in Oak Park, IL at the Priory there.

Oh, yes, that's right. I heard he's not in good health.

Matthew · « **Reply #7 on:** May 17, 2016, 03:39:23 PM »

Quote from: Ladislaus

Quote from: Matthew
That is why the situation in Boston, KY is so grave. They have cut themselves off from Bishop Williamson and the other 2 Resistant bishops (i.e., all the faithful ones). How can they be a completely "independent" operation, with no bishop(s)? This won't work, not even for a lifeboat or catechombs operation. What are they, presbyterians?

But they have a bishop ... Josaphat the New.

Strictly speaking, it's "bishop". And Moran is probably a "priest" as well.
But I can confidently say without quotes that he's a con artist.