Author Topic: A question about immodesty (Read 987 times)

Matto · « **on:** April 12, 2013, 04:25:51 PM »

Is it still a sin to dress immodestly when you are only around members of the same sex and there is no chance for a member of the opposite sex to see you?

RomanCatholic1953 · « **Reply #1 on:** April 12, 2013, 06:16:34 PM »

Yes, because even a person of the same sex may become attracted to
you if you dress immodest.
Also, in any occasion, your group will always have a camera in which he
will take photos and show them to either sex.
God will be a very strict judge even in the times we live in which almost
all have discarded occasion of sin.
Part of the previous quote is was from Pope Pius XII.

MrsZ · « **Reply #2 on:** April 13, 2013, 09:37:21 AM »

I would imagine that except for having to change from one set of clothing to another, there's no reason to be in a state of immodesty in front of anyone. Now, if you're talking about a group of male friends wearing swimming trunks and no shirts to swim....I don't think that would be an issue. Or a group of women wearing modest swimming clothes amongst each other. Otherwise, one should always show respect for self and others in covering up. IMHO.

songbird · « **Reply #3 on:** April 13, 2013, 03:35:10 PM »

If you know what you wear is immodest and you are with others, you become an example, a bad one. My cousins, non-catholic, girls, in their home ran around in slips and what I was told to be immodest. I was taught to wear a bath robe.

Here is another question: Is it wrong to live with some one of the opposite sex and say you are doing nothing improper? Yes, it creates scandal, and is a testing ground for omission of sin.

kaylaVeronica · « **Reply #4 on:** April 13, 2013, 05:14:58 PM »

Do you mean not being covered up enough, or wearing something you wouldn't normally wear in public (pajamas, for example)?

Matthew · « **Reply #5 on:** April 13, 2013, 05:54:45 PM »

Quote from: RomanCatholic1953

Yes, because even a person of the same sex may become attracted to
you if you dress immodest.
Also, in any occasion, your group will always have a camera in which he
will take photos and show them to either sex.
God will be a very strict judge even in the times we live in which almost
all have discarded occasion of sin.
Part of the previous quote is was from Pope Pius XII.

I'm sorry, but I could be around guys without clothes on for days on end and I wouldn't be the slightest bit attracted to them.

Just not something I'm the least bit interested in. No lust, no desire, no nothing. Not even a temptation, if you ask me.

Let's just say it wouldn't matter how much free reign I gave to my fantasies, or how completely I allowed myself to explore my desires and bring them to action. All of them would involve women.

In other words, even if I were throwing away my soul, I would still be repulsed by ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity. My repulsion is natural, not supernatural. So I don't need belief in God or Hell to keep me from ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity!

So I disagree with your first statement.

Matthew · « **Reply #6 on:** April 13, 2013, 06:02:26 PM »

It might help if we referred to ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity as "perversion" which is what it is.

Generally speaking, you can only create a pervert during the formative years (childhood, adolescence).

Once you are physically AND emotionally full-grown, I think ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity is not a danger.

But your child could become ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ if he were abused. That is how ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs propagate -- they "recruit" by perverting the young. I actually know one case of this IRL. A friend of the family had a son who was abused at a (protestant) church camp, and that boy grew up, only to abuse another boy! The mother was so shocked when she found out, she called the police on her own son and divorced for husband for a couple years.

Rosarium · « **Reply #7 on:** April 14, 2013, 07:05:46 AM »

Quote from: Matto

Is it still a sin to dress immodestly when you are only around members of the same sex and there is no chance for a member of the opposite sex to see you?

Modesty is a virtue, with its origin in the will. It regulates externals, but that is not the essence of the virtue.

So, to knowingly and intentionally be immodest is a sin by definition. Whether a particular state is "immodest" in certain circuмstances would be the question I think is being asked.

That question is a little more complex. If one's state would not be scandalous (ie, stripping down in a public elevator with another guy would be quite inappropriate), or lead others to immodesty, and appropriate to the circuмstance, then it is probably not immodesty.

But, lack of occasion of sin for others is not the definition of modesty.

http://blog.nonpeccabis.com/2013/02/virtue-of-modesty.html

Zeitun · « **Reply #8 on:** April 14, 2013, 02:36:50 PM »

Our Lord still sees you.