Author Topic: A pilot gives best theory on missing airliner. (Read 891 times)

crossbro · « **on:** March 27, 2014, 10:06:49 AM »

Pilot believes that airliner most likely had a landing gear fire and diverted to LangKawi.

crossbro · « **Reply #1 on:** March 27, 2014, 10:11:46 AM »

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The left turn is the key here. This was a very experienced senior Captain with 18,000 hours. Maybe some of the younger pilots interviewed on CNN didn't pick up on this left turn. We old pilots were always drilled to always know the closest airport of safe harbor while in cruise. Airports behind us, airports abeam us and airports ahead of us. Always in our head. Always. Because if something happens you don't want to be thinking what are you going to do - you already know what you are going to do. Instinctively when I saw that left turn with a direct heading I knew he was heading for an airport. Actually he was taking a direct route to Palau Langkawi a 13,000 foot strip with an approach over water at night with no obstacles. He did not turn back to Kuala Lampur because he knew he had 8,000 foot ridges to cross. He knew the terrain was friendlier towards Langkawi and also a shorter distance.

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If they pulled the busses the plane indeed would go silent. It was probably a serious event and they simply were occupied with controlling the plane and trying to fight the fire. Aviate, Navigate and lastly communicate. There are two types of fires. Electrical might not be as fast and furious and there might or might not be incapacitating smoke. However there is the possibility given the timeline that perhaps there was an overheat on one of the front landing gear tires and it blew on takeoff and started slowly burning. Yes this happens with underinflated tires. Remember heavy plane, hot night, sea level, long run takeoff. There was a well known accident in Nigeria of a DC8 that had a landing gear fire on takeoff. A tire fire once going would produce horrific incapacitating smoke. Yes, pilots have access to oxygen masks but this is a no no with fire. Most have access to a smoke hood with a filter but this will only last for a few minutes depending on the smoke level. (I used to carry one of my own in a flight bag and I still carry one in my briefcase today when I fly).

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Fire in an aircraft demands one thing - you get the machine on the ground as soon as possible. There are two well remembered experiences in my memory. The AirCanada DC9 which landed I believe in Columbus Ohio in the eighties. That pilot delayed descent and bypassed several airports. He didn't instinctively know the closest airports. He got it on the ground eventually but lost 30 odd souls. In the 1998 crash of Swissair DC-10 off Nova Scotia was another example of heroic pilots. They were 15 minutes out of Halifax but the fire simply overcame them and they had to ditch in the ocean. Just ran out of time. That fire incidentally started when the aircraft was about an hour out of Kennedy. Guess what the transponders and communications were shut off as they pulled the busses.

Zeitun · « **Reply #2 on:** March 27, 2014, 11:10:56 AM »

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Pilot believes that airliner most likely had a landing gear fire and diverted to LangKawi.

Has that area been searched? This theory is interesting but it's been a week now so I wonder if he's changed his mind.

crossbro · « **Reply #3 on:** March 27, 2014, 11:40:28 AM »

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Pilot believes that airliner most likely had a landing gear fire and diverted to LangKawi.

Has that area been searched? This theory is interesting but it's been a week now so I wonder if he's changed his mind.

Searching an area of the ocean means zero in my opinion. It reminds me of a recent search here for a missing plane here in Nevada.

They ended up rediscovering old plane wrecks and even a couple of wrecks that were decades old. Eventually, a couple years later, the wreck they were looking for was found by a couple hikers. That was on land.

Once an airliner goes into the ocean it does not mean it will ever be found no matter how hard you look or how many resources you apply.

I have FSX with an S&R mod on it where you can place an item to search of in a designated area where it will be placed at random by the CPU. I placed a life raft with a flare and smoke plume within a 100 mile radius and I spent hours searching for it and was never able to find it using a pre plotted search grid.

Throw a rock in the middle of a lake and try to find it.

Marlelar · « **Reply #4 on:** March 27, 2014, 03:48:50 PM »

The plane may have headed to Lang Kawi but someone by now would have seen either the plane or its debris field.

Marsha

crossbro · « **Reply #5 on:** March 27, 2014, 09:59:12 PM »

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The plane may have headed to Lang Kawi but someone by now would have seen either the plane or its debris field.

Marsha

The average depth of the ocean is 14000 feet. The Titanic was discovered in less than 13000 feet in 1985, it sunk in 1912.

Amelia Earhart has been missing how long ?

It is in the ocean and may never be found.

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #6 on:** March 27, 2014, 11:12:28 PM »

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Anyone expecting a "debris field" to turn up now is grasping at straws.

The passenger seat cushions on jumbo jets double as life jackets, but nobody ever gets to use them. Pretty much everything else sinks immediately, including the people, or, that is, what's left of them. When such a plane crashes in the ocean, there is a reasonable chance that some of the cushions would float on the surface for a few days, but that's about all. Besides, they're very small and likely would be invisible to aircraft. In a matter of minutes, they would be separated from each other, and drifting away with the currents, so that after one hour, they would no longer represent the place where the plane went down, nor would they be close to each other. If anyone were to find any cushions, they would have likely found only one or two, but nobody has reported finding any of them.

So it's rather impossible for them to still be floating and/or discoverable. What could happen is after a few more weeks, a few cushions might wash up on a beach somewhere, but that could be 200 miles from where they hit the water.

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stgobnait · « **Reply #7 on:** March 28, 2014, 08:03:38 AM »

unless they bring a debris field in order to find one.... :scared2:

RomanCatholic1953 · « **Reply #8 on:** March 28, 2014, 09:36:04 AM »

Christopher Bollyn-Israelis have identical Boeing 777 to fit flight MH370 in
Tel Aviv.

Yoichii Shimatsu-Role of Israelis and Billionaire George Soros exposed by
MH370 twin Jet in Tele Aviv.

Go to rense.com for the full story.

Meg · « **Reply #9 on:** March 28, 2014, 03:34:13 PM »

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Christopher Bollyn-Israelis have identical Boeing 777 to fit flight MH370 in
Tel Aviv.

Yoichii Shimatsu-Role of Israelis and Billionaire George Soros exposed by
MH370 twin Jet in Tele Aviv.

Go to rense.com for the full story.

the article by Christopher Bollyn on Rense is a good one. The comments by Rupert Murdoch are troubling, to be sure. Hopefully it's not going to be another false-flag op. I worry about what has happened to the passengers, if this scenario is true.

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #10 on:** March 28, 2014, 05:18:52 PM »

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Good stuff!

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Quote from: RomanCatholic1953
Christopher Bollyn-Israelis have identical Boeing 777 to fit flight MH370 in
Tel Aviv.

Yoichii Shimatsu-Role of Israelis and Billionaire George Soros exposed by
MH370 twin Jet in Tele Aviv.

Go to http://www.rense.com for the full story.

the article by Christopher Bollyn on Rense is a good one. The comments by Rupert Murdoch are troubling, to be sure. Hopefully it's not going to be another false-flag op. I worry about what has happened to the passengers, if this scenario is true.

The problem with Soros (pronounced "SHORE-ohsh" because he's Hungarian -- ask any Hungarian) is, people like that don't care who dies or how many die, so long as they make their profits.

There is a really dark place in hell for selfish people who destroy the world for their own material gains. Some of them do so in the name of "saving the planet."

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