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Offline Informer

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A little bird told me about the SSPX
« on: August 07, 2011, 05:12:22 PM »
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  • A relatively well known journalist, I might point out one who helped publish Bishop Williamson's letters, was sued by the FSSPX over a year ago. I do not know how the lawsuit played out.

    Said man also involved himself with the publishing of Bishop Tissier's essay critical of Pope Benedict XVI, which the FSSPX immediately strove to censor, removing it from public view.

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/28594546/Faith-Imperiled-by-Reason-Benedict-XVIs-Hermeneutics

    A small specimen of the avian persuasion also informed me that the SSPX leadership was "furious" with Bishop Williamson after his infamous interview where he got in trouble for talking about the h0Ɩ0cαųst. That much might be common knowledge. But the official reason why Bishop Williamson was sent to Argentina was not the truth! It was, once again, because of his views on various issues. The official reason was something like: the Bishop had been there for a long time and he has to move on sometime. My informant has assured me this is patently false, and he has spoken with the good Bishop many times.

    After reading about Krah, I came to the reluctant conclusion that I must disseminate this information regarding the FSSPX as well, unto the common good.


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    « Reply #1 on: August 07, 2011, 05:14:16 PM »
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  • Welcome!  God reward your concern for the common good.
    "Fear God, and keep His commandments: for this is all man."


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    « Reply #2 on: August 08, 2011, 03:11:47 AM »
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  • Quote from: Informer
    A relatively well known journalist, I might point out one who helped publish Bishop Williamson's letters, was sued by the FSSPX over a year ago. I do not know how the lawsuit played out.

    Said man also involved himself with the publishing of Bishop Tissier's essay critical of Pope Benedict XVI, which the FSSPX immediately strove to censor, removing it from public view.

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/28594546/Faith-Imperiled-by-Reason-Benedict-XVIs-Hermeneutics


    Welcome Informer, and thank you for the information.

    I didn't know that Stephen Heiner got sued by the SSPX. That's so sad. The SSPX scares another good man away... :-(
    So Krah transformed the SSPX into a sueing company, with "intellectual property" agenda etc. That is very modern.

    Stephen's support for Bishop Williamson helped in bringing graces to us catholics worldwide. The four volumes of Bishop Williamson's "Rector's Letters" a very helpful. Also the weekly Eleison Comments save us catholics from being lost in the modern world with its countless traps. Hardly any SSPX priest is either able or allowed to mention these important things in sermons anymore -- at least not in the German zone.
    Both apostolates would not exist without Stephen. Also the English translation of Bishop Tissier's book is helpful. It's a complex topic, but makes clearer to us how incredible dangerous BXVI is! The good summarize of it in Bishop Williamson's recent five Eleison Comments explained it in an easy to understand way.  

    Thank you Stephen Heiner, may God bless you and your family. May the CRMI profit from devout catholics like you.  


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    A small specimen of the avian persuasion also informed me that the SSPX leadership was "furious" with Bishop Williamson after his infamous interview where he got in trouble for talking about the h0Ɩ0cαųst. That much might be common knowledge. But the official reason why Bishop Williamson was sent to Argentina was not the truth! It was, once again, because of his views on various issues. The official reason was something like: the Bishop had been there for a long time and he has to move on sometime. My informant has assured me this is patently false, and he has spoken with the good Bishop many times.

    Yes, this is well known in European pro Bishop Williamson circles, and I confirm your informant. Thanks for pointing it out to a wider audience. Several good (Lefebvre-) priests were transfered for disciplinary reasons, too. Because either they mentioned the oldest enemies of Our Lord or criticized BXVI.

    Suppressing the truth never works. Almighty God will always have the last word!

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    « Reply #3 on: August 08, 2011, 04:33:27 AM »
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  • It is now so evident that all is not well with the Society. It reminds me of the GDR state with lawyer Krah leading a Stasi operation. With the works of the archbishop, Bps. Tissier and Williamson being suppressed and censored, publishers being sued, priests being reassigned and threatened and lay critics intimidated, what is the Society now all about? A Swiss corporation raking in the shekels? Just one body competing for a slice of the lucrative old Mass market? A lurid Disneyesque recreation of Catholic days gone by? A personal long-term Fellay fiefdom posturing theological and doctrinal scholarship but ready to jump if the price is irresistible? Gosh, where can I buy shares?  

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    « Reply #4 on: August 08, 2011, 06:52:51 AM »
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    A relatively well known journalist, I might point out one who helped publish Bishop Williamson's letters, was sued by the FSSPX over a year ago. I do not know how the lawsuit played out.

    Said man also involved himself with the publishing of Bishop Tissier's essay critical of Pope Benedict XVI, which the FSSPX immediately strove to censor, removing it from public view.

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/28594546/Faith-Imperiled-by-Reason-Benedict-XVIs-Hermeneutics


    Welcome Informer, and thank you for the information.

    I didn't know that Stephen Heiner got sued by the SSPX. That's so sad. The SSPX scares another good man away... :-(
    So Krah transformed the SSPX into a sueing company, with "intellectual property" agenda etc. That is very modern.

    Stephen's support for Bishop Williamson helped in bringing graces to us catholics worldwide. The four volumes of Bishop Williamson's "Rector's Letters" a very helpful. Also the weekly Eleison Comments save us catholics from being lost in the modern world with its countless traps. Hardly any SSPX priest is either able or allowed to mention these important things in sermons anymore -- at least not in the German zone.
    Both apostolates would not exist without Stephen. Also the English translation of Bishop Tissier's book is helpful. It's a complex topic, but makes clearer to us how incredible dangerous BXVI is! The good summarize of it in Bishop Williamson's recent five Eleison Comments explained it in an easy to understand way.  

    Thank you Stephen Heiner, may God bless you and your family. May the CRMI profit from devout catholics like you.  


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    A small specimen of the avian persuasion also informed me that the SSPX leadership was "furious" with Bishop Williamson after his infamous interview where he got in trouble for talking about the h0Ɩ0cαųst. That much might be common knowledge. But the official reason why Bishop Williamson was sent to Argentina was not the truth! It was, once again, because of his views on various issues. The official reason was something like: the Bishop had been there for a long time and he has to move on sometime. My informant has assured me this is patently false, and he has spoken with the good Bishop many times.

    Yes, this is well known in European pro Bishop Williamson circles, and I confirm your informant. Thanks for pointing it out to a wider audience. Several good (Lefebvre-) priests were transfered for disciplinary reasons, too. Because either they mentioned the oldest enemies of Our Lord or criticized BXVI.

    Suppressing the truth never works. Almighty God will always have the last word!


    Of course at the time the then District Superior for Ireland Fr Angles at request of Bishop Fellay placed a note to state the 'h0Ɩ0cαųst' was beyond discussion.It was discussed on Cath Info at the time. The note has since been removed from the Irish SSPX website.

    The day the note was read out in one Irish Society chapel a steady line of faithful spent over 30 minutes waiting to speak with the cleric who read out the note. The cleric was ashen faced after speaking with the faithful. They were very angry with the note and the way Bishop Fellay had stabbed Bishop W in the back.
    http://www.cathinfo.com/index.php/The-Irish-District-of-the-SSPX-have-betrayed-Bishop-Williamson
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    February 2009



    Recent events make it necessary to say a word about the Jєωιѕн h0Ɩ0cαųst.

    We want to stress that all the members of the Society in Ireland condemn as false, offensive, and unacceptable any form of anti-Semitism, including the denial or minimization of the Jєωιѕн genocide during World War II. For us it is beyond discussion that a systematic and organized evil plan of persecution and extermination of the Jєωιѕн race took place during the nαzι regime


    In relation to Stephen Heiner, Bishop Fellay is on record as having stated "Heiner is a person we should not associate with".


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    « Reply #5 on: August 08, 2011, 07:17:29 AM »
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  • All credit to the Irish faithful for backing the English bishop. As I suspect there was no love lost between Fr. Angles and the bishop, he strikes me as being one of those stateless priests always ready to seize an opportunity. I have yet to hear why the Irish mission under his care was 'reorganised' and became part of the UK one.

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    « Reply #6 on: August 08, 2011, 08:19:07 AM »
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  • Thanks John and Wessex for your insights.

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    In relation to Stephen Heiner, Bishop Fellay is on record as having stated "Heiner is a person we should not associate with".

    I see. So Bp Fellay gives the devout catholic Stephen the boot, whilst at the same time he puts the Judaizing Krah on a pedestal. This speaks volumes. With friends like these, who needs enemies?

    May God bless all Irish and English true catholics, so that they once more bring the catholic Faith to Europe. Sanct Bonifacio, First Apostle of Germany, pray for us!

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    « Reply #7 on: August 08, 2011, 10:46:33 AM »
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  • I should also like to confirm that several priests formed in the good Bishop's image have been transferred. Some of these have been exported to exotic locales. How many Catholics are able to discern the pattern of these movements? Politics are alive and well in the FSSPX.


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    « Reply #8 on: August 08, 2011, 11:50:49 AM »
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    Thanks John and Wessex for your insights.

    Quote from: John Grace
    In relation to Stephen Heiner, Bishop Fellay is on record as having stated "Heiner is a person we should not associate with".

    I see. So Bp Fellay gives the devout catholic Stephen the boot, whilst at the same time he puts the Judaizing Krah on a pedestal. This speaks volumes. With friends like these, who needs enemies?

    May God bless all Irish and English true catholics, so that they once more bring the catholic Faith to Europe. Sanct Bonifacio, First Apostle of Germany, pray for us!


    One can't be with the so-called "elder brothers" and our Lord at the same time.

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    « Reply #9 on: August 08, 2011, 12:25:10 PM »
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  • Telesphorus' journalist friend speaks the truth, as we can know it.  The information is probably old news for some, but it needs to be repeated.  On a slightly different issue:  Can anyone on the forum confirm that M.K. is still in the employ of Menzingen?  Over at IA I tried to nail down a remark, which I thought had been made by Fr. Morgan in the UK, to the effect that M.K. had been dismissed, that he was no longer with the Society.  Does anyone know for certain one way or the other?  Also, does M.K. really attend an SSPX chapel in Dresden, or is that also hearsay?

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    « Reply #10 on: August 08, 2011, 01:28:55 PM »
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    Telesphorus' journalist friend speaks the truth, as we can know it.  The information is probably old news for some, but it needs to be repeated.  On a slightly different issue:  Can anyone on the forum confirm that M.K. is still in the employ of Menzingen?  Over at IA I tried to nail down a remark, which I thought had been made by Fr. Morgan in the UK, to the effect that M.K. had been dismissed, that he was no longer with the Society.  Does anyone know for certain one way or the other?  Also, does M.K. really attend an SSPX chapel in Dresden, or is that also hearsay?



    Two questions which I also interested in. The first I asked earlier.  I believe that one of the Society clerics made that statement. It is true or it is not, and if not then someone has put forth an untruth. That is a serious matter.
    It is very important that all inquiries be verified and the answers true so as  to discount any more false charges of slander etc.



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    « Reply #11 on: August 08, 2011, 06:43:07 PM »
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    After reading about Krah, I came to the reluctant conclusion that I must disseminate this information regarding the FSSPX as well, unto the common good.


    Is that you, Bishop Williamson?   :pop:

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    « Reply #12 on: August 08, 2011, 06:48:15 PM »
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    « Reply #14 on: August 08, 2011, 07:27:54 PM »
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  •  :king:
    Stir up within Thy Church, we beseech Thee, O Lord, the Spirit with which blessed Josaphat, Thy Martyr and Bishop, was filled, when he laid down his life for his sheep: so that, through his intercession, we too may be moved and strengthen by the same Spir