Author Topic: A discursion on French-Indian relations (Read 1718 times)

Graham · « **on:** April 27, 2012, 11:18:58 PM »

I took these two photos at la Cathedrale Marie-Reine-du-Monde in Montreal. This cathedral is an architectural replica of St. Peter's Basilica in 1:3 scale.

Following on recent discussion, I think some people here might find them edifying. They depict true and nearly archetypical events in the history of French-Indian relations in New France.

"24 June 1615: First sung mass, on the banks of the River of the Prairies, by the Reverend Denis Jamay."

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"16-17 March 1649: Torture of the Jesuit Fathers J. de Brebeuf and G Lalemant in Huron territory."

Raoul was just mentioning something about martyrs, I believe. Note that these atrocities were committed by the Iroquois, not the Hurons. According to Wikipedia, "Brébeuf did not make a single outcry while he was being tortured and he astounded the Iroquois, who later cut out his heart and ate it in hopes of gaining his courage."

LordPhan · « **Reply #1 on:** April 27, 2012, 11:32:33 PM »

And you'll note the Iroquois were allied to the Protestant English, while the Huron were allied to the Catholic French. The Iroquois then split during the American Rebellion.

Graham · « **Reply #2 on:** April 28, 2012, 12:27:28 AM »

One assumes that the Indians allied with the French weren't in habit of turtoring and eating the French.

TraditionalistThomas · « **Reply #3 on:** April 28, 2012, 03:48:25 AM »

Quote from: Graham

One assumes that the Indians allied with the French weren't in habit of turtoring and eating the French.

If I remember correctly the alliance was later on, those images are depicting the 17th century.

s2srea · « **Reply #4 on:** April 28, 2012, 09:17:19 PM »

Thank you for sharing these images.

PereJoseph · « **Reply #5 on:** April 28, 2012, 10:05:39 PM »

Quote from: TraditionalistThomas

Quote from: Graham
One assumes that the Indians allied with the French weren't in habit of turtoring and eating the French.

If I remember correctly the alliance was later on, those images are depicting the 17th century.

Actually, we were allied with the Hurons from the beginning, when Samuel de Champlain and Pont-Gravé made an alliance with them at the great tabagie of 1608 on their voyage here, the same voyage on which Champlain founded Québec (city). We later allied with many other tribes over the course of many generations and wars.

Graham, thanks for doing this. I really appreciate it. :smile: