Author Topic: 911 call of attack on Phoenix priests (Read 1356 times)

Geremia · « **on:** June 14, 2014, 10:53:13 AM »

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/embed/xExqbzUHjeA[/youtube]
(911 audio courtesy: http://www.azfamily.com/news/911-call-released-in-attack-on-Phoenix-priests-263103901.html )

June 11, 2014, at about 9:11 PM MST, two priests were assaulted in an armed robbery of the rectory of Mater Misericordiæ Mission, Phoenix, AZ. Fr. Kenneth Walker, FSSP, was shot multiple times and died, and Fr. Joseph Terra, FSSP, was brutally beaten but survived. He gave Fr. Walker the Last Rites. A local traditional diocesan priest, Fr. Saenz, gave Fr. Walker the Apostolic Blessing in the hospital, where he died; he also gave Fr. Terra the Last Rites.

"@phoenixpolice releasing 911 call of Mother of Mercy Mission homicide of priest. Anyone with info call 480-WITNESS" (source: Sgt. Martos)

There's one rumor going around saying that Fr. Walker chased the assailant, but this cannot be inferred from the 911 call.

Fr. Flood, FSSP, district superior, and Bp. Olmsted speak about it: http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/story/25774682/2014/06/13/phoenix-police-release-suspect-description-in-priest-attack

Fr. Walker's funeral fund: http://www.gofundme.com/fr-kenneth-walker

Requiescat in pace.

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #1 on:** June 14, 2014, 11:17:20 AM »

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You're starting a second thread on the same topic?? :confused1:

http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php/Phoenix-FSSP-priests-shot-One-dead-another-in-critical-condition

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Geremia · « **Reply #2 on:** June 14, 2014, 11:33:13 AM »

Quote from: Neil Obstat

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You're starting a second thread on the same topic?? :confused1:

http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php/Phoenix-FSSP-priests-shot-One-dead-another-in-critical-condition

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Yes, that one got muddled.

Cera · « **Reply #3 on:** June 14, 2014, 06:25:59 PM »

In this news interview, the heretic Bishop says "Death is nothing other than falling asleep in the hands of God." Hmmmmm. Sounds like Universalism. God Bless Father Walker and his family.

PerEvangelicaDicta · « **Reply #4 on:** June 14, 2014, 06:44:02 PM »

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"Death is nothing other than falling asleep in the hands of God."

Typical heretical blatherings of disgraceful men of newchurch.

He and many others, whose skulls may possibly cover the floor of hell if they don't stop facilitating the damnation of souls, are sure going to be surprised that the dogma about the Four Last Things is, well, truth.

songbird · « **Reply #5 on:** June 14, 2014, 06:56:09 PM »

Heretic Bishop, I totally agree. I gave a comment on Lifesitenews a couple years ago, "show me one dioceses bishop that is pro-life, for there is none, as long as grants are accepted and etc" and I am no longer able to give comments. I am tired of these organizations, that continue to up hold New Order bishops, by saying "Oh, they are so pro-life". Well, no they are not, for we know that the charities give to and support abortion.

I understand that Fr. Walker will be buried in his home! Thank God for that!

Geremia · « **Reply #6 on:** June 14, 2014, 08:16:50 PM »

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"Death is nothing other than falling asleep in the hands of God."

The souls in hell are "asleep in the hands of God"?

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #7 on:** June 15, 2014, 02:34:57 AM »

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In the early Church they used to say that so-and-so was 'asleep in the Lord' when they died, but remember, they were talking about the saints.

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"Death is nothing other than falling asleep in the hands of God."
The souls in hell are "asleep in the hands of God"?

They would never have said that's all death ever is, being asleep in the Lord. So this is another example of how Modernists take the language of the early Church and make it twisted into something it never was before. To say that "death is nothing other than falling asleep in the hands of God" is a half-truth, and a half-truth is a whole lie.

The thing that rubs me at first sight is knowing that these two good priests were outspoken against Sodomy and abortion, two of the sins that cry to heaven for vengeance, just as Fr. Kunz had been 16 years ago. And the assailants in both cases seems to be someone who is not, shall we say, "new" at this kind of thing?
And then along comes Bishop Olmstead with his effeminate pronunciation of the English language, and my skin begins to crawl. I'm not judging him on this alone, but I'm saying that it certainly puts a most ominous appearance on the whole affair. It would have been far better if his style of speaking were more masculine, because this way, it just looks plain spooky.

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Geremia · « **Reply #8 on:** June 15, 2014, 05:13:44 PM »

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"Death is nothing other than falling asleep in the hands of God."

Typical heretical blatherings of disgraceful men of newchurch.

Which dogma does that statement contradict? Even the souls in hell are "in the [infinitely just] hands of God"; nothing escapes His providence.

Geremia · « **Reply #9 on:** June 15, 2014, 05:30:07 PM »

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The thing that rubs me at first sight is knowing that these two good priests were outspoken against Sodomy and abortion, two of the sins that cry to heaven for vengeance, just as Fr. Kunz had been 16 years ago. And the assailants in both cases seems to be someone who is not, shall we say, "new" at this kind of thing?
And then along comes Bishop Olmstead with his effeminate pronunciation of the English language, and my skin begins to crawl. I'm not judging him on this alone, but I'm saying that it certainly puts a most ominous appearance on the whole affair. It would have been far better if his style of speaking were more masculine, because this way, it just looks plain spooky.

What I find strange is that Bp. Olmsted said "The police have not given us the impression that this has happened because these were priests." (source: video @1:20), yet the "Phoenix Police Department spokesman said" that "The person who brutally attacked two Phoenix priests might have a lot of anger toward people and things associated with religion" (source).

Geremia · « **Reply #10 on:** June 15, 2014, 05:49:39 PM »

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Quote from: Neil Obstat
The thing that rubs me at first sight is knowing that these two good priests were outspoken against Sodomy and abortion, two of the sins that cry to heaven for vengeance, just as Fr. Kunz had been 16 years ago. And the assailants in both cases seems to be someone who is not, shall we say, "new" at this kind of thing?
And then along comes Bishop Olmstead with his effeminate pronunciation of the English language, and my skin begins to crawl. I'm not judging him on this alone, but I'm saying that it certainly puts a most ominous appearance on the whole affair. It would have been far better if his style of speaking were more masculine, because this way, it just looks plain spooky.
What I find strange is that Bp. Olmsted said "The police have not given us the impression that this has happened because these were priests." (source: video @1:20), yet the "Phoenix Police Department spokesman said" that "The person who brutally attacked two Phoenix priests might have a lot of anger toward people and things associated with religion" (source).

Front page story on Sunday edition of Arizona Republic:
http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/phoenix/2014/06/15/catholic-priests-attack-ancient-rite/10545809/

Watch the video, beginning @0:50. The narrator says:

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Despite the shooting death of Fr. Kenneth Walker and beating of Fr. Joseph Terra, Bp. Olmsted insists he and investigators have no reason to insist that these men were targeted for their faith, and therefore no major changes in security are planned.

Why would the bishop not want increased security, just to err on the side of caution? That seems suspicious. Is it just that he doesn't want to alarm those in the diocese, or is it something else?

Geremia · « **Reply #11 on:** June 16, 2014, 11:31:41 AM »

Suspect is 54 year old named Gary Moran.

http://www.kpho.com/story/25786348/police-confirm-arrest-in-slaying-of-phoenix-priest

Geremia · « **Reply #12 on:** June 17, 2014, 11:45:18 AM »

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The thing that rubs me at first sight is knowing that these two good priests were outspoken against Sodomy and abortion, two of the sins that cry to heaven for vengeance, just as Fr. Kunz had been 16 years ago. And the assailants in both cases seems to be someone who is not, shall we say, "new" at this kind of thing?
And then along comes Bishop Olmstead with his effeminate pronunciation of the English language, and my skin begins to crawl. I'm not judging him on this alone, but I'm saying that it certainly puts a most ominous appearance on the whole affair. It would have been far better if his style of speaking were more masculine, because this way, it just looks plain spooky.

Something else ominous: retired Bp. Thomas J. O'Brien accompanied Bp. Olmsted to the Phoenix Requiem yesterday (as Bp. Olmsted's said in his speech after the Requiem, @13:07 of this video).

Bp. O'Brien is most infamous for his hit and run:

Quote from: Randy Engel, «Rite of Sodomy», p. 601fn106

On June 14, 2003, Bishop O’Brien was arrested by Phoenix police in connection with leaving the scene of a fatal hit-and-run accident in which he was directly involved. Pope John Paul II accepted O’Brien’s resignation two days later. O’Brien was released on $45,000 bail. On March 26, 2004, The Arizona Republic reported that O’Brien was found guilty of leaving the scene of a fatal car-pedestrian accident. He received four years probation and 1,000 hours of community service. His six-month deferred jail service will be waived if he meets all the conditions of his probation. O’Brien stated he would not appeal the decision.

But, even worse than this is his complicity in pederasty:

Quote from: Randy Engel, «Rite of Sodomy», p. 568,9

O’Brien, the former Chancellor and Vicar General for the Phoenix Diocese from 1969 to 1979, had spent much of his career making the Dioceses of Tucson and Phoenix safe for clerical predatory pederasts like Trupia and Rausch. [Bp. Rausch led Call to Action and was O'Brien's predecessor, "social justice" Bernadin protege, and Paul VI appointee.]
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Court docuмents show that O’Brien continued this pattern of intimidation of victims of sex abuse by diocesan and out-of-state priests serving in the Phoenix Diocese during the 21 years he served as bishop. That is why O’Brien demanded immunity from prosecution as part of the May 2003 final settlement. And he got it.