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Offline Neil Obstat

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« on: June 14, 2013, 02:11:30 PM »
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    This is just precious.



    A Wedding Photo              

    This is a lovely photo of 24 newly wedded couples                

    in Markham, Ontario (near Toronto, Canada)                



    I just hope, for their sake,              

    that each husband goes home                

    with the right tablecloth!                

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    Offline Matto

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    « Reply #1 on: June 14, 2013, 02:16:21 PM »
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  • It looks strange because the men are dressed in western clothing and not in traditional Muslim clothing.
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    « Reply #2 on: June 14, 2013, 02:24:47 PM »
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  • Don't Catholic brides wear veils over their heads?  At least once they did?

    Isn't it worse that the western fashion in wedding dresses is to bare the back and shoulders?

    I have to say I'm impatient with people who ridicule Muslims for believing in keeping their women covered.  Do they go to excess?  Sure.  

    Maybe we should first make sure our own people are modest before we criticize others for overdoing it.

    Otherwise it makes it look as though we're opposed to the principles behind modesty, not just the excess of the Muslims.

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    « Reply #3 on: June 14, 2013, 02:27:16 PM »
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    Maybe we should first make sure our own people are modest before we criticize others for overdoing it.

    I respect Muslims for their modesty. If there were only Americans in my neighborhood I would never see a modestly dressed woman because Americans generally dress like whores (at least the ones in my neighborhood do).
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    « Reply #4 on: June 14, 2013, 02:31:06 PM »
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    Maybe we should first make sure our own people are modest before we criticize others for overdoing it.

    I respect Muslims for their modesty. If there were only Americans in my neighborhood I would never see a modestly dressed woman because Americans generally dress like whores (at least the ones in my neighborhood do).


    It's subversive of Christianity when Muslims are condemned for adhering to values that Catholics once held.  It's not coincidental that these people tend to find fault with many trads for being too "rigorous."


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    « Reply #5 on: June 14, 2013, 03:47:32 PM »
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  • Quote from: Telesphorus

    Don't Catholic brides wear veils over their heads?

    At least once they did?



    If you're going by family photos you've seen of pre-Vatican II weddings,
    yes.  It seems to me the world's standards changed when the Third
    Secret was not revealed in 1960, basically.

    What you say is true, Tele.  Properly dressed for her wedding, a Catholic
    bride would have a veil that covers her face, and ALL of her hair.  

    Traditionally, long sleeves, gloves, and a 'neckline' that is actually a
    NECK line.  And no bare backs.  

    I only know that my mother grew up in a time when a properly dressed
    lady always wore gloves when she went out, because she told me that.  
    You might have seen that in the older Westerns, before the Jєωs
    'updated' the looks of the wardrobes.

    It seems you're going to have to upload some old family album wedding
    photos if you want any of those kinds of images to be on the Internet!  

    I did a few quick searches for Internet images, and I was a bit surprised
    to find that there are practically no images like what I was looking for to
    be found.  There are a lot of scandalous ones, though.  

    Here is one that is in the right direction, but it's not from the west,
    it's from Russia!  (Harper's Bazaar)  



    If you're wondering why the odd pose, I'm telling you - there are not
    many pics to be found that show a bride with her face fully covered
    with a bridal veil.  




    Try as I may, I could not find any photos of traditionally full-coverage
    wedding gowns in use.  There are only photos of dresses on a stand,
    but few models wearing them..  curious..



    ..And those who are wearing full-covereage veils usually have their backs
    turned to the camera, as if they're ashamed to be seen this way, or at
    least, the CAMERAMAN or the PRODUCER is giving that impression:





    And as for veils, 'vintage' veils are modeled with bare-shoulder dresses,
    or else draped over something to display it, not to wear it (It seems that
    western women are somehow ashamed to be seen in a proper veil!):








    I couldn't tell if this was being modeled or not:




    The closest I could find to full face cover veils in use have bare shoulders
    and plunging necklines:




    Of course, there are the suspicious-posture photos in abundance:

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    « Reply #6 on: June 14, 2013, 04:04:02 PM »
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  • Quote from: Telesphorus
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    Maybe we should first make sure our own people are modest before we criticize others for overdoing it.

    I respect Muslims for their modesty. If there were only Americans in my neighborhood I would never see a modestly dressed woman because Americans generally dress like whores (at least the ones in my neighborhood do).


    It's subversive of Christianity when Muslims are condemned for adhering to values that Catholics once held.  

    It's not coincidental that these people tend to find fault with many trads for being too "rigorous."



    I think I owe you and the forum an apology, Tele.  The OP I posted was
    a copy of an e-mail I got from a friend, and I posted it as is, without
    doing much thinking about it.  The "tablecloth" line was supposed to be
    a punch line, but now you have made me see that it was a punch line
    that was written by someone who is a bit too much wrapped up in the
    worldliness of modernity as we know it, which is a product in no small
    part of the over-emphasis on sɛҳuąƖ prurience authored by the Jєωs,
    pretty much.  They have an overbearing obsession with everything
    sɛҳuąƖ.

    If it was me writing the comment, I wouldn't have thought of the
    "tablecloth" line on my own.  I had a feeling of reservation about it but
    I didn't pay any attention to it.  Thanks for the clarification.



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    « Reply #7 on: June 14, 2013, 04:08:21 PM »
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  • Who said I was referring to you in that comment?

    I don't think it's an exaggeration that much of the hatred for Muslims finds fuel in thinly veiled hostility to Traditional morals.  And this among "Christians" - many of whom have bought into modern values.

    Don't think I was referring to you with that post.


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    « Reply #8 on: June 14, 2013, 04:09:33 PM »
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  • Quote from: Matto
    It looks strange because the men are dressed in western clothing and not in traditional Muslim clothing.



    It's interesting you'd say that, Matto -- there is one man wearing a garb
    that looks Muslim, in the center near the top.  He's even got a head
    covering!!  

    But then the man immediately in front of him has no tie, and his shirt is
    unbuttoned on the top - like the Rabbi that Incred posted the other day.



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    « Reply #9 on: June 14, 2013, 04:13:07 PM »
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    It looks strange because the men are dressed in western clothing and not in traditional Muslim clothing.


    There is no "traditional Muslim clothing".

    In Islamic nations, the national styles are usually associated with Muslims because they wear them, but they have nothing to do with Islam.


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    « Reply #10 on: June 14, 2013, 05:36:47 PM »
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  • Quote from: Rosarium
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    It looks strange because the men are dressed in western clothing and not in traditional Muslim clothing.


    There is no "traditional Muslim clothing".

    In Islamic nations, the national styles are usually associated with Muslims because they wear them, but they have nothing to do with Islam.



    No?  What about this?  






    Or, this?









    Or.....................



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    « Reply #11 on: June 15, 2013, 07:56:02 PM »
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  • Unfortunately when women attempt to dress modestly they are called dowdy or frumpy.  


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    « Reply #12 on: June 15, 2013, 08:52:23 PM »
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    Unfortunately when women attempt to dress modestly they are called dowdy or frumpy.  



    Sometimes, I'm sure.

     I haven't received many comments or impressions of people thinking I look frumpy, and nearly all of my shirts are past my elbows and all of my skirts are several inches past the knee; most are longer. But I live in the Midwest, where perhaps sins of immodesty aren't quite so flagrant. I have, however, received many questions and comments as to why I'm wearing so much clothing during the summer. People think it quite odd.
    Religion clean and undefiled before God and the Father, is this: to visit the fatherless and widows in their tribulation: and to keep one's self unspotted from this world.
    ~James 1:27