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Offline herbert

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2001 a space oddyssey
« on: June 16, 2011, 10:27:43 PM »
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  • i saw this movie again recently and was wondering if someone familair with the movie could point out what is wrong with it. i know that it support evoltion, and wondering what other stuff going on.

    please be so kind to insist me here.


    Offline Telesphorus

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    « Reply #1 on: June 16, 2011, 10:31:58 PM »
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  • Quote from: herbert
    i saw this movie again recently and was wondering if someone familair with the movie could point out what is wrong with it. i know that it support evoltion, and wondering what other stuff going on.

    please be so kind to insist me here.


    It's about Man's ascent to divinity.  Very pagan, masonic, Nietzchean.

    This is an interesting article:

    http://www.rense.com/general7/alchemkubrick.htm


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    « Reply #2 on: June 16, 2011, 10:35:14 PM »
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    i saw this movie again recently and was wondering if someone familair with the movie could point out what is wrong with it. i know that it support evoltion, and wondering what other stuff going on.

    please be so kind to insist me here.


    It's about Man's ascent to Godhead.  Very pagan, masonic, Nietzchean.

    This is an interesting article:

    http://www.rense.com/general7/alchemkubrick.htm


    awesome tx! i read it now

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    « Reply #3 on: June 16, 2011, 10:43:46 PM »
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  • What a relief Tele.  I saw it ages and ages ago and I HATED it but could never explain why.  It seemed as if everyone was swooning over it.  I absolutely despised every minute of it, too embarrassed to walk out.

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    « Reply #4 on: June 17, 2011, 06:33:19 AM »
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    What a relief Tele.  I saw it ages and ages ago and I HATED it but could never explain why.  It seemed as if everyone was swooning over it.  I absolutely despised every minute of it, too embarrassed to walk out.


    you should read that article elizabeth. i only half way through it but it is a very

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    interesting article


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    « Reply #5 on: June 17, 2011, 08:47:33 AM »
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  • I gagged my way about 1/2 through the breathless adoration of Kubrick and I simply can't stand it anymore...

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    « Reply #6 on: June 17, 2011, 08:52:46 AM »
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    I gagged my way about 1/2 through the breathless adoration of Kubrick and I simply can't stand it anymore...


    Yes I reread it and I realized I shouldn't really endorse it.  However, I do consider it informative, although it contains at least one egregious error - calling Zarathustra a "god."

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    « Reply #7 on: June 17, 2011, 09:17:23 AM »
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  • Tele,I can stand to read about horrible things at times-I am not usually squeemish.

    (sp?)  

    It reminds me of being in school, and the ones who loved Neitzche (sp) or Carlos Casteneda.

    IMO, just reading that material seems to bring about a spiritual fall.  IMO, some reading/viewing material is in itself a curse.  It causes something bad.  It's as if the book or movie is an incantation.  

    In the same manner, I have observed changes in children who consume Harry Potter books.


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    « Reply #8 on: June 17, 2011, 03:46:48 PM »
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  • Elizabeth:
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    IMO, just reading that material seems to bring about a spiritual fall. IMO, some reading/viewing material is in itself a curse. It causes something bad. It's as if the book or movie is an incantation.


    Good observation. Of course, this is undoubtedly true on a cultural level where bad ideas rock the foundations, but I, too, have always felt that individual decisions and the things one opens oneself up to are pathways of Good or Evil in our  lives that we mere mortals do not adequately understand unless we have achieved some aspect of spiritual discernment.


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    « Reply #9 on: June 17, 2011, 03:51:57 PM »
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  • By the way,  I think it's squeamish, but to make matters worse, the small font on my browser made it look like squeermish, a new word I suggest to replace homophobic.


     :roll-laugh2:

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    « Reply #10 on: June 17, 2011, 04:03:01 PM »
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  • I didn't see the movie but I read the book.  The author, Arthur C. Clarke, was not a Christian at all.  Here is an excerpt from the Wikipedia article on him:
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    Themes of religion and spirituality appear in much of Clarke's writing. He said, "Any path to knowledge is a path to God—or Reality, whichever word one prefers to use".[64] and described himself as "fascinated by the concept of God". Near the end of J. B. S. Haldane's life, in a personal letter to Clarke, it was suggested that he should receive a prize in theology for being one of the few people to write anything new on the subject, and went on to say that if Clarke's writings did not contain multiple contradictory theological views, he might have been a menace.[65] When he entered the Royal Air Force, he insisted that his dog tags be marked "pantheist" rather than the default, Church of England,[26] and in a 1991 essay entitled "Credo", described himself as a logical positivist from the age of ten.[65] In 2000, Clarke told the Sri Lankan newspaper, The Island, "I don't believe in God or an afterlife,"[66] and he identified himself as an atheist.[67] He was honoured as a Humanist Laureate in the International Academy of Humanism.[68] He has also described himself as a "crypto-Buddhist", insisting that Buddhism is not a religion.[69] He displayed little interest about religion early in his life, for example, only discovering a few months after marrying that his wife had strong Presbyterian beliefs.

    A famous quotation of Clarke's is often cited: "One of the great tragedies of mankind is that morality has been hijacked by religion."[69] He was quoted in Popular Science in 2004 as saying of religion: "Most malevolent and persistent of all mind viruses. We should get rid of it as quick as we can."[70] In a three-day "dialogue on man and his world" with Alan Watts, Clarke stated that he was biased against religion and said that he could not forgive religions for what he perceived as their inability to prevent atrocities and wars over time.[71] In a reflection of the dialogue where he more broadly stated "mankind", his introduction to the penultimate episode of Mysterious World, entitled, "Strange Skies", Clarke said, "I sometimes think that the universe is a machine designed for the perpetual astonishment of astronomers." Near the very end of that same episode, the last segment of which covered the Star of Bethlehem, he stated that his favourite theory[72] was that it might be a pulsar. Given that pulsars were discovered in the interval between his writing the short story, "The Star" (1955), and making Mysterious World (1980), and given the more recent discovery of pulsar PSR B1913+16, he said, "How romantic, if even now, we can hear the dying voice of a star, which heralded the Christian era."[72]

    Clarke left written instructions for a funeral that stated: "Absolutely no religious rites of any kind, relating to any religious faith, should be associated with my funeral."[73]


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    « Reply #11 on: June 17, 2011, 04:07:09 PM »
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  • Clarke was a real harden heart. Mega harden. Its sad, but God will probably do what He will do with him justice-wise as in utilizing hell.

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    « Reply #12 on: June 17, 2011, 04:34:48 PM »
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    By the way,  I think it's squeamish, but to make matters worse, the small font on my browser made it look like squeermish, a new word I suggest to replace homophobic.


     :roll-laugh2:

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    « Reply #13 on: June 17, 2011, 06:39:09 PM »
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    What a relief Tele.  I saw it ages and ages ago and I HATED it but could never explain why.  It seemed as if everyone was swooning over it.  I absolutely despised every minute of it, too embarrassed to walk out.


    you should read that article elizabeth. i only half way through it but it is a very

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    interesting article


    Ha!
    It took me a minute to realize that that wasn't a mistake.
    Nice of you to give credit where credit is due.  :smirk:
    "I think that Catholicism, that's as sane as people can get."  - Jordan Peterson

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    « Reply #14 on: June 18, 2011, 03:25:26 PM »
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    By the way,  I think it's squeamish, but to make matters worse, the small font on my browser made it look like squeermish, a new word I suggest to replace homophobic.


     :roll-laugh2:


    hehe!