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« on: December 01, 2011, 11:11:50 PM »
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  • 1.) What priests/organizations does Hutton Gibson invlove himself with? Thuc line? Ordained by who?

    2.) Is it true that in traditional catholicism if it is common knowledge that the bride is not a virgin, SHE MUST WEAR A BLUE WEDDING DRESS?

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    « Reply #1 on: December 02, 2011, 12:05:25 AM »
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    1.) I was driving home from my grandmother's retirement community where she lives by herself. Most of the neighborhood is filled with widows. Is this a catholic ideal to let an elderly widow grandmother to live by herself? It just seems really lonely to me. The whole idea seems crazy, typical of American suburban values.


    2.) Can someone give me a rational argument justifying NFP besides "Pius XII taught it?" I have been thinking about this for months and I just have a real hard time justifying it. Casti Connubi (infalliable) clearly says the secondary end of the marital act (union between man and wife) cannot overtake the primary end of marriage (procreation). But it seems to me that is exactly what NFP does. Another thing about NFP that I have a problem with is that the INTENT (intent is critical in catholic theology) is to NOT HAVE CHILDREN which is an evil intent because children are a blessing from God.

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    « Reply #2 on: December 02, 2011, 11:16:41 AM »
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  • Quote from: curiouscatholic23
    1.) What priests/organizations does Hutton Gibson invlove himself with? Thuc line? Ordained by who?

    2.) Is it true that in traditional catholicism if it is common knowledge that the bride is not a virgin, SHE MUST WEAR A BLUE WEDDING DRESS?



    1. With priests ordained prior to the changes (i.e., by Bishops with jurisdiction)

    2. The Church does not command anything but modesty.
    If you are a theologian, you truly pray, and if you truly pray, you are a theologian. - Evagrius Ponticus

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    « Reply #3 on: December 02, 2011, 11:22:30 AM »
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    2 more questions.

    1.) I was driving home from my grandmother's retirement community where she lives by herself. Most of the neighborhood is filled with widows. Is this a catholic ideal to let an elderly widow grandmother to live by herself? It just seems really lonely to me. The whole idea seems crazy, typical of American suburban values.


    2.) Can someone give me a rational argument justifying NFP besides "Pius XII taught it?" I have been thinking about this for months and I just have a real hard time justifying it. Casti Connubi (infalliable) clearly says the secondary end of the marital act (union between man and wife) cannot overtake the primary end of marriage (procreation). But it seems to me that is exactly what NFP does. Another thing about NFP that I have a problem with is that the INTENT (intent is critical in catholic theology) is to NOT HAVE CHILDREN which is an evil intent because children are a blessing from God.

    Thank you.


    1. This kind of lifestyle is rather modern. Of course, a widow most likely would have lived in the village/town she always lived, probably in the same house with the rest of the family.

    2. You are just abstaining from the marital act during certain periods of time. This was always allowed by the Church. Thats it. With or without Pius XII.
    It seems that NFP is interpreted in a very liberal way, probably due to NO influence. You cannot have the intention not to have children.
    If you are a theologian, you truly pray, and if you truly pray, you are a theologian. - Evagrius Ponticus

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    « Reply #4 on: December 02, 2011, 07:21:51 PM »
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    1.) What priests/organizations does Hutton Gibson invlove himself with? Thuc line? Ordained by who?

    2.) Is it true that in traditional catholicism if it is common knowledge that the bride is not a virgin, SHE MUST WEAR A BLUE WEDDING DRESS?



    1. With priests ordained prior to the changes (i.e., by Bishops with jurisdiction)

    2. The Church does not command anything but modesty.


    What will they do when all such remaining priests die out, I wonder?
    Stir up within Thy Church, we beseech Thee, O Lord, the Spirit with which blessed Josaphat, Thy Martyr and Bishop, was filled, when he laid down his life for his sheep: so that, through his intercession, we too may be moved and strengthen by the same Spir


     

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