Author Topic: 19th Century Catechisms, BOD, BOB, Invincible Ignorance (Read 5914 times)

2Vermont · « **Reply #10 on:** February 12, 2020, 04:50:27 AM »

Quote from: DecemRationis on February 11, 2020, 08:05:12 PM

Here's a 1752 Catechism:

https://books.google.com/books?id=1-4CAAAAQAAJ&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false

It supports knowledge of the "rewarder God" as sufficient for salvation in some cases since it indicates knowledge of the Trinity and Incarnation only necessary "where ever the Gospel is sufficiently published according to the more probable opinion of Divines" (see attached).

It speaks of baptism of desire, on page 87, though it seems to limit it to catechumens.

Here is the Douay Catechism (1649):

http://www.traditionalcatholic.net/Tradition/Information/The_Douay_Catechism/index.html

Q. Can a man be saved without baptism?
A. He cannot, unless he have it either actual or in desire, with contrition, or to be baptized in his blood as the holy Innocents were, which suffered for Christ.

It is sometimes included, other times not. I don't think any conclusions can be made from those that do not. It would be another thing if every catechism did not mention it.

Banezian · « **Reply #11 on:** February 12, 2020, 08:11:37 AM »

Quote from: 2Vermont on February 12, 2020, 04:50:27 AM

Here is the Douay Catechism (1649):

http://www.traditionalcatholic.net/Tradition/Information/The_Douay_Catechism/index.html

Q. Can a man be saved without baptism?
A. He cannot, unless he have it either actual or in desire, with contrition, or to be baptized in his blood as the holy Innocents were, which suffered for Christ.

It is sometimes included, other times not. I don't think any conclusions can be made from those that do not. It would be another thing if every catechism did not mention it.

Yes

Banezian · « **Reply #12 on:** February 12, 2020, 08:13:19 AM »

Feeneyism is a heresy. I will remind people of this on every single BOD thread posted in this forum

Clemens Maria · « **Reply #13 on:** February 12, 2020, 08:38:58 AM »

Quote from: Banezian on February 12, 2020, 08:13:19 AM

Feeneyism is a heresy. I will remind people of this on every single BOD thread posted in this forum

What dogma did Fr. Feeney deny?

Banezian · « **Reply #14 on:** February 12, 2020, 08:41:44 AM »

Quote from: Banezian on February 12, 2020, 08:13:19 AM

Feeneyism is a heresy. I will remind people of this on every single BOD thread posted in this forum

Baptism of Desire which is De fide according to St. Alphonsus

CathInfo.com

Author Topic: 19th Century Catechisms, BOD, BOB, Invincible Ignorance (Read 5914 times)

2Vermont

Re: 19th Century Catechisms, BOD, BOB, Invincible Ignorance

Banezian

Re: 19th Century Catechisms, BOD, BOB, Invincible Ignorance

Banezian

Re: 19th Century Catechisms, BOD, BOB, Invincible Ignorance

Clemens Maria

Re: 19th Century Catechisms, BOD, BOB, Invincible Ignorance

Banezian

Re: 19th Century Catechisms, BOD, BOB, Invincible Ignorance