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11 AND 12 CENTURY CHURCH HISTORY
« on: April 11, 2016, 05:20:11 PM »
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  • I can't seem to find the history section, but I am searching for interesting docuмents and even short reads on medieval ecclesiastic history, particulary Iberian history. Bishop Diego Gelmírez is an interesting subject...anything around this era that is intersting. Anybody got something?
    We conclude logically that religion can give an efficacious and truly realistic answer to the great modern problems only if it is a religion that is profoundly lived, not simply a superficial and cheap religion made up of some vocal prayers and some ceremonies...


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    « Reply #1 on: April 15, 2016, 12:39:58 AM »
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  • The chapters on the Spanish Inquisition in Coningsby and The Plot Against The Church.


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    11 AND 12 CENTURY CHURCH HISTORY
    « Reply #2 on: April 15, 2016, 12:13:46 PM »
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  • Horace Mann-- Lives of The Popes vols 15, 16 & 17

    Fr Parsons -- Studies In Church History vol 2  

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    There Is No Such Thing As 'Sede Vacantism'...
    nor is there such thing as a 'Feeneyite' or 'Feeneyism'

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    11 AND 12 CENTURY CHURCH HISTORY
    « Reply #3 on: April 17, 2016, 07:51:16 PM »
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  • Father Daniel A. Lord page 8 of It's Christ or War stated 2 professors (exiled Russians) in America studied wars on the basis of numbers actually engaged, and numbers engaged in proportion to the world population of the time, number of casualties, numbers of countries involved, disastrous effects. Petirim Alexandrovich Sorokin and Nikolai Nikolaivich Golovine. (made a graph about 1925)

    With zero for absolute peace, they found that the century of greatest world peace, with the percentage only 2.7, was the year 1100-1200.  The first quarter of our century rises to 13,735.98.

    I found this to be quite interesting, even though I can't give you a book, but this one. It is a booklet.  It is not in depth of those years that you speak of.

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    « Reply #4 on: April 17, 2016, 07:52:42 PM »
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  • Father Daniel A. Lord page 8 of It's Christ or War stated 2 professors (exiled Russians) in America studied wars on the basis of numbers actually engaged, and numbers engaged in proportion to the world population of the time, number of casualties, numbers of countries involved, disastrous effects. Petirim Alexandrovich Sorokin and Nikolai Nikolaivich Golovine. (made a graph about 1925)

    With zero for absolute peace, they found that the century of greatest world peace, with the percentage only 2.7, was the year 1100-1200.  The first quarter of our century rises to 13,735.98.

    I found this to be quite interesting, even though I can't give you a book, but this one. It is a booklet.  It is not in depth of those years that you speak of.


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    « Reply #5 on: April 17, 2016, 11:58:52 PM »
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    With zero for absolute peace, they found that the century of greatest world peace, with the percentage only 2.7, was the year 1100-1200.  The first quarter of our century rises to 13,735.98.


    Amazing!

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    « Reply #6 on: April 27, 2016, 01:21:52 PM »
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  • Quote from: Centroamerica (Apr 11, 2016, 6:20 pm)
    I am searching for interesting docuмents and even short reads on medieval ecclesiastic history, particulary Iberian history

    I've had sudden demands on my time that will reduce my participation in this topic to nearly zero.  Sigh.

    But I'm eager to get this scholar's name onto the table for CathInfo.  He seems to have great academic credentials
    • , unequivocally rejects politically correct Islamophilia, and names Islamophile names when he points out the flaws in politically corrected Islamic "history".  When objective, such history describes the oppressive environment that the Church (and other culture) of the medieval Iberians (Hispano-Roman & Visigothic in varying mixtures), were faced with surviving once the Islamic invasion began.

      Quote from: Modern Age (Winter-Spring 2011)(home.isi.org/modern-age)
      "The Islamic Warriors' Destruction of a Nascent Civilization: The Catholic Kingdom of the Visigoths in Spain (A.D. 589–711)"
      By: Darío Fernández-Morera
      This essay appears in the Winter-Spring 2011 issue of Modern Age.

      [Introductory quotes by other writers expressing their own Islamophilic fantasies elided]

      The Muslim conquest of the Spanish Visigoth kingdom during the early years of the eighth century interrupted the process of cultural and ethnic fusion of Hispano Romans and Visigoths, and therefore the emergence of a new Catholic Hispano-Visigoth civilization.[1] But Islam’s destruction of Hispano-Visigoth Spain and of its lingering heritage (the “Mozarabs”) is often glossed over by today’s historians, in contrast to the abundant condemnations they bestow on the Christian West’s treatment of “Third World” peoples. Catholic Hispano-Visigoth civilization is caught between the double neglect of those who see the Muslim invasion as bringing enlightenment to a cultural wasteland—the European “Dark Ages”—and those who counter this false belief by insisting on how much more civilized were the indigenous Hispano-Romans compared to the “barbaric” Visigoths.  Never mind that the so-called European Dark Ages were less dark than is usually proclaimed,[2] and certainly quite enlightened when compared to Muslim culture prior to the Arabs’ conquest of the Middle East and North African provinces of the Greek Orthodox Roman Empire (“Byzantine”) in the seventh and eighth centuries; or that the Germanic, or perhaps Baltic, Visigoths were the most Romanized of the nations that took over the Latin Roman Empire;[3] or that Visigoth leaders knew Latin, after generations of service to Rome; or that Visigoth law was no more “brutal” than medieval Islamic sharia; or that Visigoth women enjoyed a political and social freedom impossible under Islam and that, in fact, the Visigoths had several women monarchs.[4]

      Contrary to what some historians teach today, the Muslim invasion of Spain in the eighth century differed qualitatively from that of the Visigoths in the fifth century. [....]

      Essay as a Web page: <https://home.isi.org/islamic-warriors-destruction-nascent-civilization-catholic-kingdom-visigoths-spain-ad-589%E2%80%93711>; as a PDF: <https://isistatic.org/journal-archive/ma/53_1-2/fernandez-morera.pdf>.

      Strong recommendation: Read his footnotes; there's a lot of useful information and naming of Islamophile names in them.

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      Note *: Degrees successively from Stanford, U. Penn, with his Ph.D. from Harvard, and now on the faculty at Northwestern, albeit for Spanish and Portuguese language & literature, not history.

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    11 AND 12 CENTURY CHURCH HISTORY
    « Reply #7 on: May 01, 2016, 06:51:07 PM »
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  • Quote from: Centroamerica
    I am searching for interesting docuмents and even short reads on medieval ecclesiastic history
    The Thirteenth: Greatest of Centuries by James J. Walsh (1907).
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