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« on: November 04, 2011, 10:32:29 AM »
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  • 10 Unbelievable Things the Chinese Believe
    by Gavin McInnes

    November 04, 2011

    Mao Zedong
    I lived in Taiwan for four months in the early 90s and have since spent a fair amount of time on China’s mainland, so I can ask this question without being accused of prejudice: What’s up with the Chinese? They tile their living-room floors, keep meat cold by hanging it outside, and think tigers’ private parts are magic.

    Unlike multiculturalism’s biggest fans, I’ve actually experienced multiple cultures, and they’re not just us with funny hats. They are different with a capital “D.” Once, on an insufferably hot fifteen-hour bus ride from Beijing to Shanghai, I realized I was about to die of dehydration. I looked to the Chinaman next to me and he communicated the same sentiment with hand gestures and bulging eyeballs. We mimed big glasses of water and considered drinking each other’s tears to stay alive. When the bus finally arrived at a cart selling roasted corn with nothing on it, he patted me on the back as if this wasn’t a mirage and we had arrived at a Hawaiian waterfall. “Dude,” I mimed to someone who had no idea what I was miming, “roasted corn is not known for its thirst-quenching abilities.” As I reluctantly bit into my not-very-juicy cob, I thought, “That’s it. You guys are the opposite of us.”

    When I returned to Taipei I told this story to one of the few riceballs I knew who could speak English. “You’re inexorably different than us,” I said. “You live in a spooky voodoo land where spirits are everywhere. You make crazy witch’s brew with bear’s glands like it’s going to cure cancer. You send your kids away forever to another country to be educated when they’re ten, and you put fucking kidney beans in your ice cream.” He patted me like a guy who just found some thirst-quenching hot corn and said, “Look, we’ve been doing this for about two million years. The ‘culture’ you know and love is barely a century old. Get back to me when you’re all grown up.” It was a pretty powerful zing but sorry, my people may not know a lot about civilization but we know what we like—and it ain’t China.

    “Unlike multiculturalism’s biggest fans, I’ve actually experienced multiple cultures, and they’re not just us with funny hats. They are different with a capital ‘D.’”
    It’s hard to believe, but here’s what they believe:

    1. THE MORE PAIN AN ANIMAL SUFFERS, THE MORE DELICIOUS IT IS
    The Chinese have a saying: “If it moves, it’s food.” They also believe it tastes better if it died in agony. I saw a man walking a dog down the street and it only had two legs. The stumps from the missing back pair were dripping with blood. If he was taking the dog to a potluck, this crippling pain would be ideal because they think suffering makes the sweetest sauce. I’m told it’s something to do with adrenaline, but every time I ask a Western butcher about it, they tell me adrenaline makes meat taste bitter, not better. Even if it did make food more delicious, being able to torture an animal with a huge smile on your face takes a bit of something us Westerners simply do not have.

    2. MAO WASN’T SO BAD
    Can you imagine huge statues of Hitler all over Germany? Well, he killed a mere six million Jєωs (at best). Mao killed at least FIFTY MILLION of his own citizens! I have yet to meet a Chink who has any kind of problem with this whatsoever. They’re not even mad about Tiananmen Square. Every time you bring up any kind of Chinese massacre, they inevitably shrug their shoulders and mention something cruel the American government’s done. They’re like Russians. The past stays in the past even if statues of it are thrust into the future. You don’t have to broadcast endless docuмentaries on how horrible it was the way some victims do, but at least stick a pylon on his head.

    3. DEAD PEOPLE ENJOY A GRAVE WITH A VIEW
    For the Chinese, the ideal gravesite is up high where the dead can walk out of their plots and enjoy a nice cuppa tea in peace. Many hillside graves include a cement table and chairs where their loved ones can rest their weary dead legs and maybe play a game of Mahjong. Hey, one billion people: When you die, so do your eyeballs. Giving them a grave with a view is a waste of time.

    4. BURNT PAPER GOES TO THE AFTERWORLD
    What started off as a bit of ghost money to be burnt and passed on to the afterlife has evolved into paper cell phones, paper shoes, paper appliances, and even paper cars burnt as “gifts” to the dead. Their heaven sounds like a huge pain in the ass to me. Why do you need shoes? Are you not walking on clouds? What’s with the car? Can you not fly? In my heaven you don’t need spare change. If you want a new iPhone you just grab one off the shelf and float out of the store.

    5. YOU CAN PRAY FOR A CAR
    In rural Taiwan I was taken to a shrine where two dog statues are said to represent two sailor’s dogs. The legend is that the dogs were so loyal, they waited by the shore until they starved to death because their masters were lost at sea, never to return. The statues are surrounded by people frantically praying in Mandarin. I asked my Chinese friend what they were saying and he began to eavesdrop. “That one is asking for a new BMW,” he told me, “and that one wants a new washer/dryer.” What is this, The Secret? You’re supposed to be praying for immaterial things such as good health and love and joy. If you want stuff from a Sears catalog, stop hanging out with dog statues and get back to work.

    6. TREES ARE EVIL
    In Vancouver, all the McMansions tucked away in the forest are owned by these wealthy Chinese immigrants, and the first thing they do when they set up shop is get rid of those pesky thousand-year-old redwoods full of bad luck. Tree-hugging multiculturalists are left with severe migraines as they try to process a multiculturalism that wreaks ecological havoc.

    7. NOTHING TRUMPS SHAME
    I didn’t have much money when I lived in Taiwan, but those who did bought scooters and roared through the streets like they owned the place. I was impressed they could get a Chinese license and when I asked one of them how he did it, he said, “I didn’t.” I asked him what happens when the cops stop him. “Oh,” he replied smugly, “I just start yelling at them and they become so embarrassed by their terrible English, they just drive away.”

    8. THEIR FEET DON’T STINK
    I’ve already mentioned that they burp in your face like it ain’t no thang, but that goes for everythang. Picking your nose and hocking a big loogie onto the sidewalk is like adjusting your glasses. Asians are not stinky as a race, so it’s not like their B.O. would reek up a room. I don’t even think they have B.O. I’ve known a few Asians to move here and be shocked by how much white people smell like hamburgers. However, their feet are something else. As in Japan, all Chinese women insist on wearing brown nylons. This is like wearing plastic bags on your feet all day. They also insist on taking their shoes off indoors. When they unsheathe their feet, it makes Western armpit odor smell like Estée Lauder. I had a friend who owned a body-piercing business in Shanghai. He’d buy miles of wire and have women come to his place and help him shape them into various nose rings and nipple bars. Within minutes of these women entering the apartment and removing their shoes, we’d both run out coughing. It would take a good hour of inhaling dirty Chinese smog to forget the smell.

    9. DUST IS DEADLY
    You’ll often see Chinese people wearing surgical masks and assume they are trying to avoid germs. Not so. They wear those masks due to a culturally ingrained dustophobia. They think city dust and dirt will infiltrate their lungs and kill them. (They also hide from the sun under newspapers and umbrellas like it’s raining radioactivity.) I worked in a girl’s private school and come lunchtime, every student grabbed a mop or a sponge and headed to their various stations to being cleaning. One poor girl’s job was to clean off my—gasp—chalkboard erasers. She was dressed in HazMat gear and had gloves up to her elbows as well as a fucking gas mask. When she returned from banging them together outside, she handed them back to me as if they were made of uranium. One day after they all started freaking out because I had a chalky handprint on my leg, I started banging the erasers together yelling, “It’s harmless, ladies—calm the fuck down!” They began screaming hysterically so I got even more angry and began chewing a big piece of white chalk while shouting, “IT’S JUST CHALK!” I lost my job.

    10. DISHONESTY IS THE BEST POLICY
    I knew I lost my job when the principal said, “You very good teacher. We call you for next time. Please wait for call. Thank you so much.” The Chinese believe that saving face is all that matters, and the worst thing you could possibly do is be honest with people when conflict arises. Who are you, a tween? I’m Scottish by nature and our entire existence is predicated on making sure nobody has a problem. Why sit next to someone and be uncomfortable all night when you can ask, “Why are you being so weird? Is something wrong?” And this is why I left that godforsaken place. I asked them why they were being so weird and when they pretended nothing was wrong, I realized our differences were irreconcilable and came back home. I also suspected some of them were going pee-pee in my Coke, but that’s a whole other joke.
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    Offline Iuvenalis

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    10 unbelievable things the Chinese believe
    « Reply #1 on: November 04, 2011, 11:30:00 AM »
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  • I can 'second' may of these.

    The animal cruelty as virtue, the incessantly hacking loogies (even women), and the ridiculous indirect/avoiding conflict thing are so true.

    They forgot, however, that while they avoid direct conflict, they have a completely different standard of 'honesty'. Honesty does not mean saying what is true and not what is false, but only admitting what you will find out/what you can prove against them.

    Business transactions should be avoided. And I'm not basing this on a single incident and it has been corroborated by Chinese businesswomen and men.


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    « Reply #2 on: November 04, 2011, 01:45:21 PM »
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  • we're all equal, I dare say.

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    « Reply #3 on: November 04, 2011, 04:18:53 PM »
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  • Oooh wheee... he had me at the red beans in ice cream. In ice cream???  In almost every dessert! He also forgot to mention the other fabulous Chinese desserts... like flavorless tree fungus in sugar water.

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    « Reply #4 on: November 04, 2011, 05:06:13 PM »
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  • Quote from: Matthew
    What is this, The Secret?


    LOL,

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    anyone else watched this? or read the book? I had to for one class.
    2 Corinthians 4:3-4 

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    « Reply #5 on: November 04, 2011, 06:54:08 PM »
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  • I am laughing so hard.  My niece and her husband are on some campus crusade for Christ mission in China right now.  She's always sending photos of her and her husband racing around on their scooters.  I am so gonna ask her about this.  I have not lived in China but Koreans all have bad breath, really bad breath.  I call it kimchi breath.  Nasty.  But come to think of it, all of Korea stinks.  

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    « Reply #6 on: November 04, 2011, 07:11:53 PM »
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  • Inclination to lying is common to all cultures that have felt the Sinitic influence. Even the Catholic Encyclopaedia notes that the North Vietnamese are incurably deceitful!

    Random, but if you don't speak a word of Chinese, a way to tell if someone is from the Southern part of the country or Hong Kong (i.e., places where Cantonese is spoken) is if they talk really loud, fast, and draw out a long "yaaah" at the end of each sentence. Seriously after hearing them talk, you just want to add a long "yaaaaaaah" to the conclusion of each sentence as well.

    Despite how ridiculous some of this sounds in English, I sympathize with many of the peculiar customs of the Orient and find that emphasizing them here in the West is a way that overseas communities maintain their identity. There's places in California where if you didn't know any better you'd think you are in Hong Kong or Vietnam.

    Surprised that the article didn't mention the worst part of Chinese culture (for westerners at least) - the traditional opera!!!


     



    (nothing bad in the videos - just be warned that it isn't exactly "music" to most people's ears! Personally, I really like the second video and hum this tune all the time...)





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    « Reply #7 on: November 04, 2011, 08:00:36 PM »
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  • Could someone who is inclined to praise this article please explain to me how the use of the word "Chink" is consistent with a Catholic world view?  Can I expect to see "nigger" next?
    Stir up within Thy Church, we beseech Thee, O Lord, the Spirit with which blessed Josaphat, Thy Martyr and Bishop, was filled, when he laid down his life for his sheep: so that, through his intercession, we too may be moved and strengthen by the same Spir


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    « Reply #8 on: November 04, 2011, 08:32:01 PM »
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  • The Chinese also lack human compassion and charity. Did you hear the story about the 2 year old girl who got run over by a car and was left to die on the street while 15 passersby saw her in full view and did nothing. Finally, a Chinese woman came and dragged her off the street and called the ambulance. This hero was treated like a celebrity all over China and given money and gifts and was on several TV shows. In any other country, everyone would have done what she did. But in China, people don't help each other who are in trouble unless it is a family member. Their philosphy is to not get involved. That is why this hero was such a big celebrity and treated with such amazement when she did what any human being would do if they saw a child lying on the street injured.

    The 2 year old girl ended up dying, by the way.

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  • I can see the "saving face" and dishonesty about them. Its just true. Period.

    Probably worse than the Muslims and their Taqqiyah law that approves lying for Allah.

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    « Reply #10 on: November 05, 2011, 03:36:33 AM »
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  • Dishonesty? The prize goes to...


    JUDAISM’S HERMENEUTIC OF DECEIT

    SIX CATEGORIES OF LYING PERMITTED BY THE TORAH:

    scholarship (including Torah scholarship), sɛҳuąƖity, and hospitality
    The тαℓмυd: The Steinsaltz Edition, Vol II, p.49

    lying to gentiles (Baba Kamma 113a)

    for "peace" (meaning, "it's OK to lie to keep out of trouble") (Yebamoth 65b)

    when everyone should know you are lying, "guzmah" (Hullin 90b)

    It is strictly forbidden to moser [inform the non-Judaic authorities on] either a Jєωιѕн person or his property. One who mosers a Jєωιѕн person or his property has no share in the world to come. (Shulchan Aruch, Choshen Mishpat, 388)

    The Culture of Deceit, Parts 1 & 2
    http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/authors/Connelly-Deceit.html
    http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/authors/Connelly-DeceitII.html

    Swindlers’s List
    http://citizenfitz09.blogspot.com/2011/05/swindlerss-list-latest-additions.html


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  • Quote from: Sigismund
    Could someone who is inclined to praise this article please explain to me how the use of the word "Chink" is consistent with a Catholic world view?  Can I expect to see "nigger" next?


    Familiarity breeds a certain sort of contempt, especially when the thing with which you've become familiar is indeed contemptible. I don't know anything about Gavin McInnes, but one can infer from the article that he once went to China voluntarily to work as a teacher. That might tell us something useful.

    The people who volunteer to teach abroad are often motivated by the prospect of adventures in far-off countries. They may feel like they lack something inside themselves, something that there own culture failed to provide them, and they think they might be able to "find themselves" in an alien culture. I know I myself have felt like this before; and from what I've seen in other young adults in college and elsewhere, the situation is quite common. And it is hardly surprising that it should be so; for not only are our young people incredibly alienated and disappointed, but the idea of "finding your identity in another world" is a recurring trope in countless popular movies and books, as well as an assumed dogma of the rot-gut sociology they get taught in school.

    The Asian cultures are particularly attractive in this regard. Little boys are drawn in by a fascination with the martial arts. Then, as they begin to study these arts, they are immersed in a world which seems to be rumbling with deep mysteries and secret powers. They pick up fragments of the alien culture which they strive to integrate into a succesful whole, and this leads to a thirst for more knowledge. If they are of a serious bent, they might study the languages, philosphies, and cuisines of Asian countries, all the while building up a very idealistic world-picture of what it must be like to live there and to master it all. But they are not yet mature enough to realize that the information they're getting is very filtered, designed precisely to excite their passions so that they pay out more money to dojos and publishers. There is also the not-insignificant fact that "Asian-ness" has, for us, become a symbol of all that is disciplined, dutiful, timeless, and secure -- the very qualities which American culture and American families do not embody at all. But good-natured young people have a natural desire for these things, so it is almost inevitable that any grave and serious soul who is not being raised correctly, will turn a desirous glance at wide Asia and wonder if he or she would not really be happier there. If Gavin McInnes was anything like this, then he probably set out for China with some rather romanticized notions of what he would find there.

    The reality, of course, was quite different. The Chinese people are strange and pagan, and finally cruel and incorrigible. This realization causes one to suffer immensely from cognitive dissonance, as his ideals are mercilessly ripped out and shown to be of no value. First he hates the Chinese for disappointing him yet again; but that sort of hatred can hardly hold up against the knowledge that it is his own silly fault for not fiding out the truth of the matter earlier. Then he hates himself and his idealism -- all that romantic falderal which everybody laughed at back home -- and he judges himself to be a perfect fool, vowing to never let anyone pull the wool over his eyes again. If he had made his "chink" remark in either one of these two states of mind, one could plausibly accuse him of simply expressing sour grapes. But there comes a time when he realizes that he has just been put through an accelerated course of "growing up," that he has learned something real about the world and about the nature of fallen humanity. At this point the "chink" remark becomes entirely appropriate, for it is no longer a racial epithet hurled out of prejudice or revenge, but a term of derision used to designate one very idiosyncratic stronghold of paganism and vice, one he has actually witnessed. There is no quick anger or petty judgment in the experienced man's rebukes, but only the contempt of what is actually blameworthy.

    I suppose one could see the world "nigger" used next. For instance, suppose we were reading the account of an idealistic young schoolteacher in America who wanted to help the inner-city blacks, but whose sentiments changed when she learned that her favorite student, the one she really thought she could reach, just robbed a 7-11 to pay for an abortion for his 13 year-old half-sister whom he impregnated. It is easy to see how her credo might progress from "I want to help these disadvantaged African-Americans" to "What is wrong with these people," to finally "God, I can't stand these niggers." Does anyone accuse her of being unChristian? There is a certain level of depravity which simply cannot be borne with any longer.

    But then again, this is my attempt to offer a relevant justification that would pertain to general cases of this sort. I have no idea whether or not it actually applies to Gavin.
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    « Reply #12 on: November 05, 2011, 07:34:18 AM »
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  • Okay.  We have all said things when emotionally charged that we regret or that were wrong.  I certainly have.  I thing the person you describe at the end of your post is in just such a situation.  However much subjective mitigation there might be in such a case, using racial and ethnic slurs is still wrong, no?
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    The Chinese believe that saving face is all that matters, and the worst thing you could possibly do is be honest with people when conflict arises.


      We are exactly the same here! You know collective cultures (like asian and ME ones) are the opposite of individual cultures (like in america). And nothing is as important in the first group as your face, your prestige and your honor. Even morals, pleasures and acheivements are far less important than people's opinion about you (ie. your social face).

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  • For the record, I now know that my general defense most definitely does not apply to Gavin McInnes. I did some research and read his blog. The man seems to be a complete pervert. The original source for this article was Takimag. Honestly, I don't know why anybody would read Takimag. That place is a cesspool of vice.
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