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Offline Nishant

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"Science Increasingly Makes the Case for God"
« on: January 03, 2015, 04:31:56 AM »
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  • The more atheists try to run away from God, the more eloquently all creation testifies together to His power, wisdom and goodness. Although this article does not go beyond intelligent design to special creation, it's worth reading because it shows secularist scientists coming to realize how fantastically improbable it is for life to form by chance. Taught by Jesus Christ and His Church, Christians know that God called the universe into being from nothing, He made the stars, the planets, the sun, the moon, the earth and everything in them simply by willing them into existence, and all creation accordingly ordered and submitted itself to His decrees and continues to be governed by the natural laws that He established, something natural reason itself amply confirms.

    But what is quite extraordinary is for atheistic scientists, given their default presuppositions, working under the assumptions of standard big bang cosmology to recognize the fact, that were many of the fundamental forces of nature to take even slightly different values, life of any kind would never have formed. The inference of the truth of design and creation is only a step away from the recognition of this now empirically demonstrated fact. A brief excerpt.

    http://www.wsj.com/articles/eric-metaxas-science-increasingly-makes-the-case-for-god-1419544568

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    The fine-tuning necessary for life to exist on a planet is nothing compared with the fine-tuning required for the universe to exist at all. For example, astrophysicists now know that the values of the four fundamental forces—gravity, the electromagnetic force, and the “strong” and “weak” nuclear forces—were determined less than one millionth of a second after the big bang. Alter any one value and the universe could not exist. For instance, if the ratio between the nuclear strong force and the electromagnetic force had been off by the tiniest fraction of the tiniest fraction—by even one part in 100,000,000,000,000,000—then no stars could have ever formed at all. Feel free to gulp.

    Multiply that single parameter by all the other necessary conditions, and the odds against the universe existing are so heart-stoppingly astronomical that the notion that it all “just happened” defies common sense. It would be like tossing a coin and having it come up heads 10 quintillion times in a row. Really?

    Fred Hoyle, the astronomer who coined the term “big bang,” said that his atheism was “greatly shaken” at these developments. He later wrote that “a common-sense interpretation of the facts suggests that a super-intellect has monkeyed with the physics, as well as with chemistry and biology . . . . The numbers one calculates from the facts seem to me so overwhelming as to put this conclusion almost beyond question.”

    Theoretical physicist Paul Davies has said that “the appearance of design is overwhelming” and Oxford professor Dr. John Lennox has said “the more we get to know about our universe, the more the hypothesis that there is a Creator . . . gains in credibility as the best explanation of why we are here.”

    The greatest miracle of all time, without any close seconds, is the universe. It is the miracle of all miracles, one that ineluctably points with the combined brightness of every star to something—or Someone—beyond itself.
    "Never will anyone who says his Rosary every day become a formal heretic ... This is a statement I would sign in my blood." St. Montfort, Secret of the Rosary. I support the FSSP, the SSPX and other priests who work for the restoration of doctrinal orthodoxy and liturgical orthopraxis in the Church. I accept Vatican II if interpreted in the light of Tradition and canonisations as an infallible declaration that a person is in Heaven. Sedevacantism is schismatic and Ecclesiavacantism is heretical.


    Offline Ladislaus

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    "Science Increasingly Makes the Case for God"
    « Reply #1 on: January 03, 2015, 09:32:57 AM »
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  • Very simple / basic math and statistics PROVE beyond any shadow of a doubt that the current world could not have come about without "intelligent design".  Perhaps some of these scientists are honest enough not to rule it out due to bad will against Almighty God.  If any mentally-competent and not-completely-dishonest person looks at self-driven evolution vs. intelligent design, the notion of evolution is utterly absurd and laughable.


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    "Science Increasingly Makes the Case for God"
    « Reply #2 on: January 03, 2015, 09:34:42 AM »
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  • This just speaks to the teaching of Holy Mother Church at Vatican I that the existence of God can be known with certainty from nature itself.  Only the bad-willed can deny the existence of God.  Period.

    Offline ClarkSmith

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    "Science Increasingly Makes the Case for God"
    « Reply #3 on: January 03, 2015, 02:24:19 PM »
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  • Science has been co-opted by atheist personalities and showmen. Why else would   Bill Nye,  Tyson Degrasse, and Richard Dawkins be famous? Scientists used to be famous for their discoveries or because they helped improve lives.  

    The "religion of science"   had its own Gaileo moment when it shunned and ruined James Watson's career for his beliefs on race.    Link    
     
     

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    "Science Increasingly Makes the Case for God"
    « Reply #4 on: January 03, 2015, 03:36:51 PM »
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  • The article said:

    The greatest miracle of all time, without any close seconds, is the universe. It is the miracle of all miracles, one that ineluctably points with the combined brightness of every star to something—or Someone—beyond itself.

    Indeed, and more so when viewed as seen and experienced - geocentrically, possible only if created that way by God. And that is why the Devil played mind-games with humanity, blinding every last man, woman and child who received an 'education' to what they see and turn it around in their head into a heliocentric one evolving from a Big Bang..

    I agree Nado, this article is nothing to celebrate. It is based on the excrement of the Copernican heresy, their extrapolation past God the Creator to a naturalistic Big Bang that supposedly gave rise to the evolution of everything, from SPACE itself, the stars, sun, moon and earth to living creatures.

    How well the article did not say that because Big Bang evolution possibility is so absurd, the Big Bang theory is itself absurd as well as evolution. Surely one follows the other.

    Evolution is an insult to human intelligence. A simple reasoning on the make-up and complexity of any living creature, from life itself, the structure of a body, the ability of its brain, the ability of it to see, to hear, etc, will demonstrate that an evolution of all that, bit by bit is absurd. It works only as a whole, not as a jig-saw, starting with one bit and adding on the rest 'over millions of years.'

    Yet evolution is believed by every authority on earth, including those in authority of the Catholic Church. Pope Pius XII told the atheistic Pontifical Academy of Sciences that the Big Bang was God's creative act.

    Now that science has finally seen the absurdity of this evolutionary Big Bang, does the creative act of God go down the tubes with Pius XII's Big Bang?
    Popes committed Catholics to heretical heliocentrism, then Big Bangism, then Ratzinger finished off Original Sin in his book IN THE BEGINNING.

    That is why THE EARTHMOVERS was written, to let everyone know faith and science could better be described as faith and heresy, and the two are like Christ v Satan.


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    "Science Increasingly Makes the Case for God"
    « Reply #5 on: January 03, 2015, 04:18:54 PM »
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    The fine-tuning necessary for life to exist on a planet is nothing compared with the fine-tuning required for the universe to exist at all. For example, astrophysicists now know that the values of the four fundamental forces—gravity, the electromagnetic force, and the “strong” and “weak” nuclear forces—were determined less than one millionth of a second after the big bang. Alter any one value and the universe could not exist. For instance, if the ratio between the nuclear strong force and the electromagnetic force had been off by the tiniest fraction of the tiniest fraction—by even one part in 100,000,000,000,000,000—then no stars could have ever formed at all. Feel free to gulp.


    These guys are real geniuses. I'm glad to see that some are starting to find themselves painted into a corner. What I find incredible, however, is that they do not seem to notice that no material could exist without a Creator before we even get into "fundamental" forces, etc. How do they all manage to miss this a priori?  

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    "Science Increasingly Makes the Case for God"
    « Reply #6 on: January 04, 2015, 11:45:05 AM »
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  • Quote from: Thurifer
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    The fine-tuning necessary for life to exist on a planet is nothing compared with the fine-tuning required for the universe to exist at all. For example, astrophysicists now know that the values of the four fundamental forces—gravity, the electromagnetic force, and the “strong” and “weak” nuclear forces—were determined less than one millionth of a second after the big bang. Alter any one value and the universe could not exist. For instance, if the ratio between the nuclear strong force and the electromagnetic force had been off by the tiniest fraction of the tiniest fraction—by even one part in 100,000,000,000,000,000—then no stars could have ever formed at all. Feel free to gulp.


    These guys are real geniuses. I'm glad to see that some are starting to find themselves painted into a corner. What I find incredible, however, is that they do not seem to notice that no material could exist without a Creator before we even get into "fundamental" forces, etc. How do they all manage to miss this a priori?  


    More than that Thurifer, matter needs SPACE first. It is as though space existed eternally, kinda like space is nothingness.