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Re: "primacy" of using one's conscience
« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2017, 03:00:33 PM »
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  • If he's the pope, then shouldn't we default to the problem being those who have a problem with it?
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    Re: "primacy" of using one's conscience
    « Reply #2 on: November 12, 2017, 04:14:11 AM »
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  • From the Baltimore Catechism;


    Q. 510. Is it ever possible for one to be saved who does not know the Catholic Church to be the true Church?
    A. It is possible for one to be saved who does not know the Catholic Church to be the true Church, provided that person:
    1.(1) Has been validly baptized;
    2.(2) Firmly believes the religion he professes and practices to be the true religion, and
    3.(3) Dies without the guilt of mortal sin on his soul.

    Q. 511. Why do we say it is only possible for a person to be saved who does not know the CatholicChurch to be the true Church?
    A. We say it is only possible for a person to be saved who does not know the Catholic Church to be the true Church, because the necessary conditions are not often found, especially that of dying in a state of grace without making use of the Sacrament of Penance.

    Q. 512. How are such persons said to belong to the Church?
    A. Such persons are said to belong to the "soul of the church"; that is, they are really members of the Church without knowing it. Those who share in its Sacraments and worship are said to belong to the body or visible part of the Church.

    https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/resources/catechism/baltimore-catechism/lesson-11-on-the-church

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    Re: "primacy" of using one's conscience
    « Reply #3 on: November 12, 2017, 04:18:32 AM »
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  • Presuming that you've not already, perhaps you could start a Lodge P, with the Baltimore Catechism as the centerpiece.

    Still not using the JP2 though... odd.
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    Re: "primacy" of using one's conscience
    « Reply #4 on: November 13, 2017, 02:37:57 AM »
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  • Presuming that you've not already, perhaps you could start a Lodge P, with the Baltimore Catechism as the centerpiece.

    Still not using the JP2 though... odd.
    The Baltimore Catechism is a time honored guide to what the Catholic Church teaches. It has been used since long before Vatican II. In fact not using it is why we have many of the problems we have today.


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    Re: "primacy" of using one's conscience
    « Reply #5 on: November 13, 2017, 03:53:25 AM »
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  • The Baltimore Catechism is a time honored guide to what the Catholic Church teaches. It has been used since long before Vatican II. In fact not using it is why we have many of the problems we have today.
    Uh huh...
    "Lord, have mercy".