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Traditional Catholic Faith => General Discussion => Topic started by: Geremia on August 27, 2019, 02:57:21 PM

Title: '83 Code egalitarian?
Post by: Geremia on August 27, 2019, 02:57:21 PM
Compare 1917 can. 124 (https://books.google.com/books?id=2XbtF6Y21LUC&pg=PA65):
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Clerics must lead an interior and exterior life holier than that of laity and should excel in rendering them an example of virtue and good deeds.
with 1983 can. 276 (http://www.vatican.va/archive/cod-iuris-canonici/eng/docuмents/cic_lib2-cann208-329_en.html#CHAPTER_III.):
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§1. In leading their lives, clerics are bound in a special way to pursue holiness since, having been consecrated to God by a new title in the reception of orders, they are dispensers of the mysteries of God in the service of His people.
Title: Re: '83 Code egalitarian?
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on August 27, 2019, 03:01:44 PM
That explains why women are handing  out communion during novus ordo service.   It used to be hands of priest were consecrated.
Title: Re: '83 Code egalitarian?
Post by: Geremia on August 27, 2019, 03:27:58 PM
That explains why women are handing  out communion during novus ordo service.   It used to be hands of priest were consecrated.
The '83 Code has other canons regarding "lay jurisdiction (https://books.google.com/books?id=JKgZEjvB5cEC&pg=PA296)," a term that used to mean the jurisdiction of the laity in secular affairs, but in the '83 Code means jurisdiction of laypeople within the Church).
Title: Re: '83 Code egalitarian?
Post by: poche on August 27, 2019, 11:02:06 PM
Compare 1917 can. 124 (https://books.google.com/books?id=2XbtF6Y21LUC&pg=PA65):with 1983 can. 276 (http://www.vatican.va/archive/cod-iuris-canonici/eng/docuмents/cic_lib2-cann208-329_en.html#CHAPTER_III.):
The 1983 statement appears to be the same as the 1917 except in other words.
Title: Re: '83 Code egalitarian?
Post by: Geremia on August 28, 2019, 01:05:29 PM
The 1983 statement appears to be the same as the 1917 except in other words.
The '83 Code omits mentioning laypeople and how priests should excel them in holiness.

Quote from: St. Gregory the Great, De Cura Past. P. cap. 3. II.
The ecclesiastic is wanting in what he owes to his position, not only when he puts himself among the number of those who live badly, but also when he does not excel good and pious laity in living virtuously.