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Offline LaramieHirsch

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WWII documentaries lie to us...
« on: June 09, 2012, 01:50:55 PM »
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  • Yesterday, as I was watching a World War II history documentary (on the History Channel), I could not help but notice the evil music that was being played every time something German was on the screen--from women walking down the street, to children smiling at the camera.  

    A few things dawned on me, then.  

    - I have no doubt that the German people were deceived during the reign of the Nazi party.  But I have reason to believe that we Americans, too, have been deceived when it comes to World War II, who was the good guys, and who was the bad guys.  I feel that we've been manipulated horribly, and that we believe something very untrue.  Yet, the history is so distorted, that I do not know what, exactly, was true of that time.  

    -This confusion about who we are, what we were, what they were--it is all diabolical.  And this diabolical confusion, this muddling, is a direct result of our sins, both personally and collectively.  God has decided to abandon us to such lies and confusion, in the same way He abandons us to bad leaders, bad clergy, and so on.  The layman does this to himself, and only mass repentance can reverse this.  

    -Since the era--and the decades ever since--is so muddled, and since life is so short for us, I choose not to figure out "what's really happening."  Lucifer has his grip on everything at this point.  Our lives are like blades of grass, and we are mowed down so quickly.  The thing to focus on anymore is prayer for our leaders, our priests, or bishops--the Church leadership--and we must ask God for forgiveness for our sins and ask that He impress upon the people we come across to repent and convert.  That is all that is important anymore.  Any other luxury is foregone at this point.  The culture is devestated and necrotic.  At any moment, terrible persecutions may start--and will be justified by the people who live around us.  We have to ask God to forgive us, mortify ourselves, practice penance, and pray for others.  

    -If there is some .00001 % chance that our society spontaneously repents and turns toward the Church Jesus began, then we will see the justice we all so strongly desire.  Until then, however, the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics will continue to wear away at the fabric of Western Civilization.  
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    Before some audiences not even the possession of the exactest knowledge will make it easy for what we say to produce conviction. For argument based on knowledge implies instruction, and there are people whom one cannot instruct.  - Aristotle

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    « Reply #1 on: June 09, 2012, 02:05:30 PM »
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  • Here's a newsreel from the time. (with more cheery music)  It's very tragic and poignant when you realize what's going to be happening to these people in the horrors of the coming occupation:



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    « Reply #2 on: June 09, 2012, 02:24:51 PM »
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  • If you want to see footage of WWII without the Orwellian propaganda voice constantly exhorting you to hate:

    http://www.webalice.it/romanoarchives/index.html

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    « Reply #3 on: June 09, 2012, 05:02:33 PM »
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  • Good stuff, gentlemen. Thank you.

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    « Reply #4 on: June 10, 2012, 07:56:30 AM »
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  • History documentaries are always biased and sensationalist. Indeed, all history is biased by the writer. Nothing to worry about. Just read from more than one point of view.


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    « Reply #5 on: June 10, 2012, 02:14:47 PM »
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  • It is just that, all my life, I've seen war documentaries--a lot, since the History Channel came around.  And in these WWII documentaries, Germany is always always painted as an evil completely culpable enemy that should be fully blamed and mindlessly hated.

    Every time I look back to some sort of black and white documentary about the time, evil lurching music is played.  I'm getting sick of it.  


    As I learn more about the Judaic mind, and what, exactly, the Jews have been up to in the last 2000 years here in the West, I begin to get a sense of how the German people--and Europe at large--felt about them.  Here in America, talk about race and Judaism is so TABOO...you just can't have a calm discussion about it.  Yet, I hear that in Europe, people talk about race and the Judaics all the time, with a casualness that would shock your average American consumer.  

    But anyway, from what I gather, after WWI, Germany was so beaten up.  And bankers set in, and they indebted the country terribly.  From what I've heard only, it was a lot of Jewish bankers as well as some of those elitist globalists that we so often talk about.  And from what I gather, the German people were tired of this Judaic/globalist conspiracy that was causing their currency to be such crap.  And let's not forget, they had a strong fear of the Bolshevik movement of Russia, which they understood to be a Jewish conspiracy.  And so, their immediate carnal reaction was to elect and support a political party that would get rid of these people.  


    ...now, I am not saying that the German people were in the right.  No, no, and no.  But what I am saying, is that I can begin to understand their frustrations.  And I am frustrated that I was not taught about this aspect of pre-WWII.  I'm frustrated that people, as a whole, are kept in the dark about such things.
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    « Reply #6 on: June 10, 2012, 11:07:40 PM »
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  • Friend, I would seriously do some decent research before immediately trying to blame it on a Jewish conspiracy. I'm no Zionist, but I do find it somewhat inaccurate to describe every conflict in the history of the universe as being mastered by the Jews; as what many on this forum would have you think. If you come across any sources that pretty much blame the Jews for what they suffered in World War Two and claim that the Nazis were simply defending themselves against Judaism, burn it immediately. It's flat out false and hatred.

    The mainstream historical view is Zionist, no doubt about it. But, there exists the other extreme of the spectrum, made up by Neo-Nazis and other viciously hateful people who are not with Christ. You must be careful when examining historical sources that they are true. Don't let the Evil One deceive you.


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    « Reply #7 on: June 12, 2012, 02:26:04 AM »
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  •  The subject of the world wars make me think back to the Protocols, the part wherein they state that whilst the aristocracy wanted strong & healthy workers, all that the elders of zion desired was the killing out of the goyim. I think that this was one of Int'l Jewry's main reasons for bringing about both world wars. They knew that multitudes of the best, most courageous men of the hated goyim would die fighting one another, thus weakening the European peoples so that it would be that much easier for them to administer what they hoped would be the death blow of the cultural marxist revolution of the 60's onward. The constant efforts to incite hatred of Germany & the German people fit in with another doctrine mentioned in the protocols, that of using propaganda to make the various nations of Europe hate one another so that they could never unite & crush the power of Int'l Jewry.


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    « Reply #8 on: June 12, 2012, 05:43:58 AM »
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  • World War II is a tragic event.  

    If you want to simplify it, sure, the Nazis were evil.  Our soldiers fought and died to stop them.  

    But, our soldiers also fought and died along side the Communists of Stalin, so morally, we were on the side of evil fighting evil.  

    Our dropping the two atomic bombs on Japan was pure murder, nothing more or less and it was unnecessary because there are historical sources that claim that as early as 1943 the Japanese were making overtures for peace.  This act of evil is on the shoulders of truman and his largely Jewish or leftist advisors who wanted a third and even a fourth bomb dropped.  

    Either way...  We murdered in a most atrocious way.  

    Not to be too repetitive but we also encouraged evil (i.e., in making Stalin out to be "Uncle Joe" in FDR's phraseology and the news reels of the day.)

    Stalin and the boys (following the bolshevism/communism that is outlined/bulwarked by Jewish thinking as exampled in the Talmud), were engaging in genocide long before we willingly followed propaganda being drummed up against the Germans.  Hitler and the German people knew full well what mass murder was being perpetrated in the Ukraine and elsewhere against non-Jews and Catholics or Orthodox in particular and they knew full well the intentions of who were the intellectual leaders behind this.

    The History Channel?  It's okay for entertainment value and some interesting footage but it's not too hard to spot the biases.  There was even a show many years ago on Hitler and the T in Hitler was designed to look just like a cross.  

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    « Reply #9 on: June 12, 2012, 05:48:18 AM »
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  • Quote from: Cuthbert
    The subject of the world wars make me think back to the Protocols, the part wherein they state that whilst the aristocracy wanted strong & healthy workers, all that the elders of zion desired was the killing out of the goyim. I think that this was one of Int'l Jewry's main reasons for bringing about both world wars. They knew that multitudes of the best, most courageous men of the hated goyim would die fighting one another, thus weakening the European peoples so that it would be that much easier for them to administer what they hoped would be the death blow of the cultural marxist revolution of the 60's onward. The constant efforts to incite hatred of Germany & the German people fit in with another doctrine mentioned in the protocols, that of using propaganda to make the various nations of Europe hate one another so that they could never unite & crush the power of Int'l Jewry.


    You do realise that the Protocols are false documents created by the Imperial Russian secret police?

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    « Reply #10 on: June 12, 2012, 06:51:50 AM »
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  • If you are American and were educated in American schools, then most of what you know about history, not just WWII, is largely inaccurate and may be out right lies.

    I love history and have always been interested in answering the questions of why---why did these events happen in this way.

    In the U.S., we are sometimes led to believe that things just happen randomly or the leaders involved act out of greed, power, or insanity.  It is disconnected and not true.

    As a result, Americans grow up also disconnected and deceived.  



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    « Reply #11 on: June 12, 2012, 09:09:17 PM »
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  • I assume that you jest Traditionalist Thomas, but if you are in earnest I would ask you to read the Protocols yourself & see if you do not find yourself agreeing with Henry Ford's statement regarding the protocols as I do, which is "The only statement I care to make about the protocols is that they fit in with what is going on. They are sixteen (now 107) years old, & they have fitted the world situation up to this time. They fit it now."

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    « Reply #12 on: June 12, 2012, 09:44:09 PM »
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  • Quote from: TraditionalistThomas
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    The subject of the world wars make me think back to the Protocols, the part wherein they state that whilst the aristocracy wanted strong & healthy workers, all that the elders of zion desired was the killing out of the goyim. I think that this was one of Int'l Jewry's main reasons for bringing about both world wars. They knew that multitudes of the best, most courageous men of the hated goyim would die fighting one another, thus weakening the European peoples so that it would be that much easier for them to administer what they hoped would be the death blow of the cultural marxist revolution of the 60's onward. The constant efforts to incite hatred of Germany & the German people fit in with another doctrine mentioned in the protocols, that of using propaganda to make the various nations of Europe hate one another so that they could never unite & crush the power of Int'l Jewry.


    You do realise that the Protocols are false documents created by the Imperial Russian secret police?


    What's your proof of that?

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    « Reply #13 on: June 12, 2012, 10:29:35 PM »
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  • Laramie, you did sound rather pessimistic, even fatalistic, in your first post

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    since life is so short for us, I choose not to figure out "what's really happening." Lucifer has his grip on everything at this point.  Our lives are like blades of grass, and we are mowed down so quickly.  The thing to focus on anymore is prayer for our leaders, our priests, or bishops--the Church leadership--and we must ask God for forgiveness for our sins and ask that He impress upon the people we come across to repent and convert.  That is all that is important anymore.  Any other luxury is foregone at this point.  The culture is devestated and necrotic.  At any moment, terrible persecutions may start--and will be justified by the people who live around us.  We have to ask God to forgive us, mortify ourselves, practice penance, and pray for others.  


    Yes prayer and repentance is essential for all of us, especially for our leaders, our priests, or bishops--the Church leadership but we all have a role to play. Yours must include (at least) figuring out "what's really happening."  How else can you make informed decisions, raise a family with all that entails, or fulfil your vocation in life.

    ...terrible persecutions may start--and will be justified by the people who live around us.  This sentence is not clear to me. Can you explain what you mean by it?

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    It is just that, all my life, I've seen war documentaries--a lot, since the History Channel came around.  And in these WWII documentaries, Germany is always always painted as an evil completely culpable enemy that should be fully blamed and mindlessly hated. Every time I look back to some sort of black and white documentary about the time, evil lurching music is played.  I'm getting sick of it.  


    Laramie, I know exactly what you mean! I no longer co-operate in brainwashing by subjecting myself to the treatment. Why do you watch this propaganda? Would it not be better and less disturbing to seek out the truth through books without subjecting yourself to the mood changing effects of the TV. History Channel is probably just as biased as any other mass media, is it not?

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    But anyway, from what I gather, after WWI, Germany was so beaten up. And bankers set in, and they indebted the country terribly.

    Maybe there is someone out there who can recommend the best books to read up on this. Any suggestions of reliable history books?
    Try this website for history: http://www.iamthewitness.com/

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    And I am frustrated that I was not taught about this aspect of pre-WWII.  I'm frustrated that people, as a whole, are kept in the dark about such things.


    Of  course, it is never too late to make up for what you were deprived of. You MUST do it, and share it with those who look for Truth.


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    « Reply #14 on: June 12, 2012, 10:29:41 PM »
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  • Quote from: Cuthbert
    I assume that you jest Traditionalist Thomas, but if you are in earnest I would ask you to read the Protocols yourself & see if you do not find yourself agreeing with Henry Ford's statement regarding the protocols as I do, which is "The only statement I care to make about the protocols is that they fit in with what is going on. They are sixteen (now 107) years old, & they have fitted the world situation up to this time. They fit it now."


    I agree.

    Common sense and my powers of reason tell me that the Protocols fit. Nothing else explains so much about the world during the 20th century. Without  knowledge of the international Jewish conspiracy, nothing in politics or the world in general makes sense.

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