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Woman loses custody of baby for refusing Hep B vaccine!
« on: March 29, 2012, 01:18:08 PM »
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  • Mother Who Questions Vax at Hospital Has Newborn Taken Away

    by SARAH, THE HEALTHY HOME ECONOMIST on MARCH 28, 2012

    I am having a great deal of trouble typing this post.  I am so upset and outraged over what was done to Jodi Ferris and her baby at the Penn State Hershey Medical Center in Pennsylvania shortly after she gave birth that I am having difficulty staying composed enough to write a coherent story.

    If you recall, this is the same area of the state where officials allowed a serial child molester like Jerry Sandusky, former Penn State assistant football coach, to go free for decades and continue to abuse children unfortunate enough to come across his lecherous path while a mother who gives birth in a government hospital has her baby taken away for questioning whether vaccination with Hep B is truly necessary.

    Does something seem very very wrong with this picture?


    Jodi and Scott Ferris’ Story

    Jodi had hoped to have a homebirth.  After going into labor early and given the distance to the nearest hospital, Jodi and her husband Scott were advised by their midwife to call an ambulance and get to the hospital.

    Jodi and Scott’s baby girl was born in the ambulance in the parking lot of Hershey Medical Center.  Attending personnel at the government run facility took charge of “Annie” and Jodi very quickly.

    Jodi was unable to see and hold Annie after the birth and hospital personnel were totally unresponsive when she continued to inquire about her newborn.   Jodi was also given an injection of oxytocin without first being told what it was.  Hospital personnel only inquired whether she was allergic after the injection was given.

    Jodi’s persistent inquires about Annie continued to go unheeded.  She was simply told that “she is in good hands and you’ll be able to see her soon”.

    Finally, a doctor told Jodi that Annie had scored a 9 out of 10 on the APGAR test given to newborns which was very good considering that an 8 or above indicates a healthy child.

    A short time later, a different doctor told Jodi that Annie was very sick and would need to stay in the hospital.  This doctor also arrogantly indicated his dislike for midwives with the comment “too many people think they know what they’re doing”.

    About an hour after being told Annie was very sick, Annie was finally brought to Jodi.  She was told Annie was doing well and would be able to go home shortly.

    Baby Detained at Hospital For No Medical Reason

    A few hours later, the story changed yet again as another hospital staffer told Jodi and Scott that Annie would have to remain in the hospital for 48-72 hours for observation.

    When they inquired why, they were told that the “law” required Annie to stay for at least 48 hours.

    There is no such law in Pennsylvania, by the way.

    After consulting with risk management about why Annie had to stay at the hospital, it was admitted that even though Annie was fine and there was no reason she couldn’t go home, she was being held prisoner at the hospital for 48-72 hours not for any health reasons but out of concern that if anything went wrong after Annie was discharged that the hospital might get sued.

    Hospital risk management ultimately relented and said a 24 hour waiting period was sufficient and that Jodi and Scott could stay with their baby overnight.

    A Parent’s Worse Nightmare Begins

    Later that day, a social worker came to Jodi and Scott’s room and announced that she was going to conduct an investigation of them.

    The social worker also claimed that it was “against the law” to show Jodi the allegations before she was questioned.

    When Jodi resisted and said that she was not comfortable answering questions when she didn’t even know what was going on, the social worker threatened to call police and take custody of her baby.

    It soon became apparent that the problem was Jodi and Scott’s apparent refusal to consent to medical treatments for Annie.  The social worker claimed that she had refused the Vitamin K shot for Annie. Jodi said that no one had even asked her about the shot and that Annie had already been given the shot based on a conversation she overhead from hospital personnel.

    The social worker was unable to provide a single example of necessary medical treatment that Jodi and Scott had refused.

    Scott had to leave shortly after that as their older children were staying with friends and he had to go attend to them.

    Hep B Vaccine Questioned

    After Scott left, hospital staff demanded that Annie be given the Hepatitis B vaccine.  Jodi said that would be fine if she and Annie were tested to see if they actually had Hep B first.

    The social worker pressed Jodi to consent to the shot immediately even though no testing for Hep B could be done that day.  Jodi asked if she could wait until Scott got back before a decision was made.

    Once again, the social worker threatened to call police and take custody of Annie if Jodi did not make an immediate decision about the Hep B vaccine.  She also pressed for Jodi to sign a “safety plan” so she could conclude her investigation.

    Jodi said that she wanted her husband and an attorney present before she signed such a docuмent as she felt that she was in no physical state to read and sign it at that time.

    Annie Taken Into Police Custody

    When the social worker could not pressure Jodi to sign the docuмent, she went and called police.

    With no court order, police took custody of Annie claiming she was ill which was completely false.

    With Annie now in her custody, the social worker approved the Hep B vaccine for Annie, completely overruling the desires and wishes of her parents to have their baby tested for Hep B first before the vaccine was administered.

    Then, the hospital kicked Jodi out of the hospital where she was told she could return every 3 hours to nurse Annie.

    Scott rushed back to meet Jodi at the hospital entrance as she was being escorted out and with nowhere to go, they spent the night in the parking lot of the hospital, sleeping in the car while their baby was in the hands of police and social services inside the hospital.

    Annie Finally Returned to Parents

    No doubt exhausted and emotionally distraught, Jodi and Scott attended a shelter care hearing with a judicial officer the following morning.

    After hearing the evidence, the officer immediately returned custody of Annie to her parents.

    Parent Rights Being Eroded

    The moral of this story is that government and hospital workers will lie about the health of your child and quickly violate your Constitutional Rights in order to to force medical treatment upon your children without your consent.

    Jodi and Scott Ferris have bravely decided to take their case to court in order to put an end to this madness so no other parents ever have to endure the ordeal they suffered at Hershey Medical Center after the birth of Annie.

    If this case moves you as it has me, please consider donating to the Homeschool Freedom Fund which will assist the Homeschool Legal Defense Association with the funds necessary to support Jodi and Scott’s case in court.

    No social worker should be able to play God with someone else’s baby and get off on her own power making up “rules” and “laws” as she goes for her own convenience and personal satisfaction.

    There is no doubt that this social worker’s intentions were entirely personal; she was aiming to teach these homeschooling, homebirthing parents a lesson they would never forget.

    It’s high time a court of law draws a line in the sand once and for all to establish that parents and not the government have the ultimate right to determine both medical and educational decisions for their children.

    There is no such thing as “your government family” as Janet Napolitano, Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security is so creepily fond of saying.

     

    Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist
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    Woman loses custody of baby for refusing Hep B vaccine!
    « Reply #1 on: March 29, 2012, 01:19:51 PM »
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  • All good Americans know how to deal with people that try to mess with their family.

    This is why the Founding Fathers gave us the 2nd Amendment -- to protect all our other freedoms!
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    Woman loses custody of baby for refusing Hep B vaccine!
    « Reply #2 on: March 29, 2012, 01:35:02 PM »
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  • They really are. But unfortunately, even bearing arms to protect our freedom doesn't do much nowadays. Is it really worth standing outside your home with a 12 guage, when there's a tank outside? This country's gone to crap, but there's no where better to go. The court rules over everything, not reason.

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    Woman loses custody of baby for refusing Hep B vaccine!
    « Reply #3 on: March 29, 2012, 02:32:32 PM »
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  • This happened in my state.  This kind of thing happens frequently, especially to families who live "off the grid."  I am going to a workshop in April regarding child neglect and abuse laws in our state so I can better defend our own family.  It is a constant concern that one phone call from a nosy neighbor will end up costing us our family and my husband his job.  (He works for the county.)

    We live in a police state.  Actually, we lived under a communist regime under the title of communitarianism.  They don't care who they arrest or take into custody as long as the community is "safe, healthy, and protected."  

    I am reading and researching about this now and I tell you it is some scary stuff.  But it is happening.  It is real.  And it is coming to a community near you.

    The sad thing is, the Conciliar "Catholic" Church is playing right along with this game.

    Our Lady of Fatima, ora pro nobis.

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    Woman loses custody of baby for refusing Hep B vaccine!
    « Reply #4 on: March 30, 2012, 05:21:24 PM »
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  •  I hate to say this, but that Hepatitis shot was made madatory (sp) by all states  over ten years ago.  I fully disagree, it is against our rights.  Next is also madatory by all and it is a newborn screening and that is done without your knowing it.  It is like a DNA/blood test for diseases that one may get when older.  I forgot the word for it, it is a form of the word generation.    I teach NFP and I have always highly recommended Midwifes so as to get around the mistreatment and nosiness of the hospitals/counties.  Some women are also mistreated.  I had to tell my doctor to stop pulling on my placenta/cord. I warned him, if he put a hole in my uterus I would sue him!  He was very rough!  That was in 1986 and in 1982 a lady staff punched my uterus passed the matteress!  Both were on U.S. military bases, doesn't matter who or where, mistreatment can have a woman to losing her uterus.  We need deliveries to be as natural and a joy as much as possible.  Any other way would scare couples not to want children and the destruction that can happen and last a life time!


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    Woman loses custody of baby for refusing Hep B vaccine!
    « Reply #5 on: March 30, 2012, 05:57:05 PM »
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  • I was placed in a lockdown observation room with cameras all over it and withheld pain meds after a C-section when I objected to what they were doing to my baby and stupidly asked some question about the vaccines and social security number.

    There was no way I was trying to make a point, be political or anything--it was truly Kafak-esque.

    Seriously, the social worker who popped in showed me who was the Boss.  My husband had to be in his brother's wedding nearby, so I had no advocate until he got back, and they wouldn't let me call him.  We consider ourselves lucky we didn't have our baby taken.  It was a nightmare.

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    Woman loses custody of baby for refusing Hep B vaccine!
    « Reply #6 on: March 31, 2012, 12:00:03 PM »
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  • Quote from: s2srea
    They really are. But unfortunately, even bearing arms to protect our freedom doesn't do much nowadays. Is it really worth standing outside your home with a 12 guage, when there's a tank outside?  


    If you're the only thing standing between it and your kid, #### yeah.

    *Though I'd expect you to do something more intelligent than just stand there in front of the tank when you can high-tail it out of there or something. lol*
    "Louvada Siesa O' Sanctisimo Sacramento!"~warcry of the Amakusa/Shimabara rebels

    "We must risk something for God!"~Hernan Cortes


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    « Reply #7 on: March 31, 2012, 12:40:18 PM »
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  • I forgot to mention...

    If you come from where I do, giving up your child to CPS often means handing them over to face death, rape, or starvation in some obscure foster home.

    The bright side? Well the news might pick up on it after the fact.
    "Louvada Siesa O' Sanctisimo Sacramento!"~warcry of the Amakusa/Shimabara rebels

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    Woman loses custody of baby for refusing Hep B vaccine!
    « Reply #8 on: March 31, 2012, 12:44:26 PM »
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    I hate to say this, but that Hepatitis shot was made madatory (sp) by all states  over ten years ago.  I fully disagree, it is against our rights.  Next is also madatory by all and it is a newborn screening and that is done without your knowing it.  It is like a DNA/blood test for diseases that one may get when older.  I forgot the word for it, it is a form of the word generation.    I teach NFP and I have always highly recommended Midwifes so as to get around the mistreatment and nosiness of the hospitals/counties.  Some women are also mistreated.  I had to tell my doctor to stop pulling on my placenta/cord. I warned him, if he put a hole in my uterus I would sue him!  He was very rough!  That was in 1986 and in 1982 a lady staff punched my uterus passed the matteress!  Both were on U.S. military bases, doesn't matter who or where, mistreatment can have a woman to losing her uterus.  We need deliveries to be as natural and a joy as much as possible.  Any other way would scare couples not to want children and the destruction that can happen and last a life time!


    Are you sure about this? I just read a North Carolina statute which states that parents can opt out of Hep B, vitamin K etc if they present the wishes in writing to the doctor and medical staff prior to being admitted.

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    « Reply #9 on: March 31, 2012, 12:52:40 PM »
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  • There are a huge amount of state and county employees who would be out of a job if they couldn't find people to harass and intimidate.

    Most of these employees are women.  It's their big upwardly mobile break into a para-professional type of situation.  Many lesbians in this section of society.

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    « Reply #10 on: March 31, 2012, 05:43:40 PM »
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  • Roland:  I read theAZ state bill and unless they made changes, it was mandatory.


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    « Reply #11 on: March 31, 2012, 05:54:50 PM »
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  • Quote from: songbird
    Roland:  I read theAZ state bill and unless they made changes, it was mandatory.


    I know a trad Catholic family being hounded by CPS as we speak.

    My friend (the father of the family) speaks of collusion between the court-appointed defense attorneys, CPS officers, the judges presiding over the court appearances (!), and more.

    They care nothing for the laws -- worst case for them is "stuff is thrown out" when it sees the light of day in court. But they try EVERYTHING and I mean EVERYTHING they think they can get away with -- laws be damned.

    For example, from day one CPS appointed TWO attorneys for this couple who have been married for 24 years. One addressed to the husband, and the other addressed to the MAIDEN NAME of the mother. It's as if they WANT to rip apart the family, and are doing everything possible to divide, stress them out, get them to crack, etc.

    It's absolutely diabolical.

    Oh, and he said there are a lot of lesbians all over the place.
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  • The lesbians don't know family happiness, so they want to take it away from as many people as possible.

    Misery loves company. It's literally the modus operandi of Satan and his minions. Makes me sick.
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    « Reply #13 on: March 31, 2012, 11:07:38 PM »
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  • Once we had a sibling group whose caseworker caseworker assured us, " I am sure you are the family God has chosen to parent these children.  You are their Forever Family."

    Well, that was nice.   :scared2:

     We had "workers" (their term) in our house every day.  Thirteen of them, looking for trouble. In twos, threes, supposedly in-house "therapists.".. It was insane. These ladies had never been married, did not have children, and had never had a mortgage.  Hmm.  If anyone has ever dealt with PETA types, the types who do home studies for rescue dogs, they'll know the type.

     The siblings had been horribly, horribly abused and they were not the slightest bit happy to have been yanked out of the home they had been living for the past 18 months with people they loved.  The people who had them first were the ones who were legally eligible to adopt the siblings.  The workers told us lies about how evil the former family was.  They had been trespassing the other household before they decided to move the kids to our house on the pretext of us adopting them.  The head worker was outraged that the kid's area was bare concrete.  (but, the area had recently had a huge flood, and everyone had taken the carpeting out of their basements!)

    The kids were extremely angry and dangerous, and should never, ever have been placed in a family with existing children.  The workers lied from the beginning to the end of the experience.  

    We ended up appealing to the wife of the governor, but that was the end of any further attempts to try to "give back" what we have been blessed with, or help poor kids.  

    No matter how many judicial reviews, investigations, purges these entities have, the corruption seems to stay the same.  Luckily the Internet has brought a lot of this to light, but it is hard to comprehend all the same.

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    It's absolutely diabolical.




    No exaggeration, it is.