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Why people are fleeing California
« on: March 13, 2024, 10:30:11 PM »
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  • California is implementing a first-ever new electricity charging scheme, where you pay more for electricity if your income is higher!


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    Households earning $28,000-$69,000 would be charged an extra $20 to $34 per month. Those earning $69,000-$180,000 would pay $51 to $73 per month, and those earning more than $180,000 would pay a $85-to-$128 monthly surcharge.

    That's a lot considering California’s electricity rates are already among the highest in the nation. People living in California have been paying 32 cents per kilowatt-hour compared to the national average of 18 cents, according to Energy Sage, which has monitored energy prices nationwide. It claimed California residents have been paying $273 per month on average for electricity, or $3,276 per year.


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    Offline Mark 79

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    Re: Why people are fleeing California
    « Reply #1 on: March 13, 2024, 11:34:42 PM »
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  • We left CA in 2003. High on the list of reasons:


    • California's Utilities Commission had already contracted for utility rates to triple, "the writing was on the wall."
    • California's Employment Commission decided that a bona fide contractor was an employee and wanted…wait for it!… $130,000 in back taxes and penalties. They "settled" for $30,000 thta thye weren't actually owed. They always pick a number slightly less than the cost of litigating. It's a Jєω thing.
    • The County Assessor/Auditor threatened to put a lock on my office that moment because he couldn't find my tax payments in his records, even though I provided cancelled checks and receipts. I had to double-pay the taxes that moment or be shut down. And again they picked a number slightly less than the cost of litigating and money lost while the office would have been locked. It's a Jєω thing.
    • My competition rifles were serially outlawed, so I had to move them out of state. That too is a Jєω thing.
    • Then there's the guy who dropped his drawers and defecated in front of us as we were about to enter one of our favorite restaurants. Yep, a W.E.B. du Bois/Jєω thing.


    Oh, California, how do I hate thee? Let me count the ways.

    Five years after leaving CA and not returning, they tried to dun me for taxes and penalties for income earned out of state after we left. Yep, you guessed it!



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    Re: Why people are fleeing California
    « Reply #2 on: March 14, 2024, 05:56:53 AM »
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  • I can't think of any reason to live or move to California.  

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    Re: Why people are fleeing California
    « Reply #3 on: March 14, 2024, 11:32:33 AM »
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  • I can't think of any reason to move or live in Vermont.

    California isn't called the Golden State for nothing.
    "I will lead her into solitude and there I will speak to her heart.  Osee 2:14

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    Re: Why people are fleeing California
    « Reply #4 on: March 14, 2024, 11:41:12 AM »
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  • I can't think of any reason to move or live in Vermont.

    California isn't called the Golden State for nothing.
    Ha.  20 years ago I'd agree with you.  If it weren't for the future husband living here I'd never move here either.
    So maybe there is one good reason to move to a state like California.

    Of course if I had to choose, I'd still choose Vermont over California. It is probably one of the most, if not the most, beautiful state in the US.



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    Re: Why people are fleeing California
    « Reply #5 on: March 14, 2024, 11:56:21 AM »
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  • California would be a great place, if it weren't for all the freaks concentrated along the coast from San Francisco to Los Angeles.

    My aunt lived in Merced, in the San Joaquin Valley, and it was an idyllic place, possibly the best agricultural land in the world.  I wouldn't mind living there.  Fresno and Bakersfield are actually pretty solid, conservative cities.  Far worse places.

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    Re: Why people are fleeing California
    « Reply #6 on: March 14, 2024, 12:36:33 PM »
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  • Cal is much more than just San Fran & L.A.!!  Cal is big enuf to be a nation.  It has EVERYTHING - cities, rural areas , mountains, lakes, rivers, shoreline on the ocean, forests, plains, weirdos to entertain us & millions of ordinary folk making a living.  No other state in the union has what Cal has.
    "I will lead her into solitude and there I will speak to her heart.  Osee 2:14

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    Re: Why people are fleeing California
    « Reply #7 on: March 14, 2024, 12:39:04 PM »
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  • PS:  & millions of people coming in & trying to get in.
    "I will lead her into solitude and there I will speak to her heart.  Osee 2:14


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    Re: Why people are fleeing California
    « Reply #8 on: March 14, 2024, 06:50:02 PM »
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  • Five years after leaving CA and not returning, they tried to dun me for taxes and penalties for income earned out of state after we left. Yep, you guessed it!

    :jester:  My father was stationed in California in the navy in the 1950s for two or three years.  After he retired, he received annual letters for years from California demanding that he pay taxes on the portion of his military retirement pay he earned in California.  He threw them away every time.

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    Re: Why people are fleeing California
    « Reply #9 on: March 14, 2024, 09:18:12 PM »
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  • I'm convinced that CA and all these liberal, western states are deliberately making living conditions, taxes, homelessness, welfare, etc worse and worse, to get people to leave.  They want to clear out normal Americans so when China invades, the rich commies and the Democrats can live there.  Then maybe they'll split off from Eastern America and cause a cινιℓ ωαr.  Plus, pushing out millions of Americans to live in Eastern states will further put pressure on the infrastructure of the poorer states.  Destroy America + enrich commies.  2 birds with 1 stone.

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    Re: Why people are fleeing California
    « Reply #10 on: March 14, 2024, 09:45:56 PM »
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  • California would be a great place, if it weren't for all the freaks concentrated along the coast from San Francisco to Los Angeles.

    My aunt lived in Merced, in the San Joaquin Valley, and it was an idyllic place, possibly the best agricultural land in the world.  I wouldn't mind living there.  Fresno and Bakersfield are actually pretty solid, conservative cities.  Far worse places.
    Sorry for the update —BUT— Today Inland California and Northern California are as criminalized as the coastal segments. Humboldt County's "Emerald Triangle" is booby trapped by CHINESE AND CARTEL illegal grow operations. Illegal immigration and Commie politics have seen to that.  Nothing is "pretty solid" in California these days, not even the ground.


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    Re: Why people are fleeing California
    « Reply #11 on: March 15, 2024, 08:17:42 AM »
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  • California: We need *another* $100 billion for high-speed rail.
    https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/2024/03/14/california-needs-100-billion-for-its-high-speed-rail-another-100-billion-n3784708

    California started its high speed rail project in 1996. By 2011 $98 billion was spent. In 2024 not even 1 mile of track is yet operational.

    Meanwhile in Japan…



    …and China…


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    Re: Why people are fleeing California
    « Reply #12 on: March 15, 2024, 02:04:10 PM »
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  • We left CA in 2003. High on the list of reasons:


    • California's Utilities Commission had already contracted for utility rates to triple, "the writing was on the wall."
    • California's Employment Commission decided that a bona fide contractor was an employee and wanted…wait for it!… $130,000 in back taxes and penalties. They "settled" for $30,000 thta thye weren't actually owed. They always pick a number slightly less than the cost of litigating. It's a Jєω thing.
    • The County Assessor/Auditor threatened to put a lock on my office that moment because he couldn't find my tax payments in his records, even though I provided cancelled checks and receipts. I had to double-pay the taxes that moment or be shut down. And again they picked a number slightly less than the cost of litigating and money lost while the office would have been locked. It's a Jєω thing.
    • My competition rifles were serially outlawed, so I had to move them out of state. That too is a Jєω thing.
    • Then there's the guy who dropped his drawers and defecated in front of us as we were about to enter one of our favorite restaurants. Yep, a W.E.B. du Bois/Jєω thing.


    Oh, California, how do I hate thee? Let me count the ways.

    Five years after leaving CA and not returning, they tried to dun me for taxes and penalties for income earned out of state after we left. Yep, you guessed it!
    What an absolute load of dog's bollocks! I didn't realize you had you go through all evil before you settled where thou presently art.

    How long before the Big One hits CA? Or we can just pray for that asteroid O Lord!
    Da pacem Domine in diebus nostris
    Qui non est alius
    Qui pugnet pro nobis
    Nisi  tu Deus noster

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    Re: Why people are fleeing California
    « Reply #13 on: March 15, 2024, 03:19:05 PM »
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  • Sorry for the update —BUT— Today Inland California and Northern California are as criminalized as the coastal segments. Humboldt County's "Emerald Triangle" is booby trapped by CHINESE AND CARTEL illegal grow operations. Illegal immigration and Commie politics have seen to that.  Nothing is "pretty solid" in California these days, not even the ground.
     
    Hate to hear that.  I was in Merced in 1985 and had no reason to think things had changed all that much, I've tried to keep up somewhat (my aunt died in 1987 or 1988) and didn't realize things were so different.  It comes across as a peaceful, easy-going city where nothing much ever happens --- students at the UC campus there call it "Mer-dead".  Dull and boring are not always bad things.