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Author Topic: Why doesn't the Vulgate use YHWH (LORD)?  (Read 2220 times)

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Offline AnthonyPadua

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Re: Why doesn't the Vulgate use YHWH (LORD)?
« Reply #5 on: December 26, 2023, 05:28:33 PM »
Knowing Anthony (only from his posting), I imagine he's just asking why and not questioning its validity.

Prots try to turn Yahweh into some proper name, but the entire point of the expression by God was to say that He HAS NO NAME.  Names define the essences of things, but God has no essence, only an existence, so to use "Yahweh" as if it were some kind of name directly contradicts what God was trying to reveal when He said, "I am Who am."  Nevertheless, a designation for "I am Who am" (as referring to God) needs to be there as a placeholder for its appearance in various grammatical constructions, so the Hebrews inserted "Adonai"  in place of Yahweh when reading or explicating the text, since the Divine Name (or, rather Non-Name) was ineffable and unknowable.

So, the bottom line is that it's a mistake to think of "Yahweh" as some kind of name, or, as you put it, the "Divine Name", when it's really a Divine Non-Name, i.e. a reference to God denying that He has a name at all.
I thought God's essence was His existence?

And can't we say that God does have a name now, Jesus?

Offline Mark 79

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Re: Why doesn't the Vulgate use YHWH (LORD)?
« Reply #6 on: December 26, 2023, 08:29:04 PM »
Knowing Anthony (only from his posting), I imagine he's just asking why and not questioning its validity.

Prots try to turn Yahweh into some proper name, but the entire point of the expression by God was to say that He HAS NO NAME.  Names define the essences of things, but God has no essence, only an existence, so to use "Yahweh" as if it were some kind of name directly contradicts what God was trying to reveal when He said, "I am Who am."  Nevertheless, a designation for "I am Who am" (as referring to God) needs to be there as a placeholder for its appearance in various grammatical constructions, so the Hebrews inserted "Adonai"  in place of Yahweh when reading or explicating the text, since the Divine Name (or, rather Non-Name) was ineffable and unknowable.

So, the bottom line is that it's a mistake to think of "Yahweh" as some kind of name, or, as you put it, the "Divine Name", when it's really a Divine Non-Name, i.e. a reference to God denying that He has a name at all.
This is probably the best and most succinct exposition on this question that I have ever seen. Kudos on this point.

Dare I tag on a corollary? The Kabbalistic Jews claim God has a name, they know it, and knowing it gives them power.  How surprised those lying, thieving, perverted, genocidalists will be!


Offline Mark 79

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Re: Why doesn't the Vulgate use YHWH (LORD)?
« Reply #7 on: December 26, 2023, 08:36:57 PM »
A heretic keeps bothering me with the question so I am trying to shut them down.
Well, you can keep the heretic busy by insisting that he first explain why he has any business complaining. AFter all… how many entire books is his fake "Bible' missing???

I think that Lad gave you a marvelously clear and succinct answer to shut his Prottie pie-hole.

Re: Why doesn't the Vulgate use YHWH (LORD)?
« Reply #8 on: December 26, 2023, 09:22:34 PM »
I thought God's essence was His existence?

And can't we say that God does have a name now, Jesus?
We can say for sure that the Second Person of the Blessed Trinity bears the Holy Name, Jesus.
Run this by your bothersome heretic:

Luke 1: 31 Behold thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and shalt bring forth a son; and thou shalt call his name Jesus.  32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the most High; and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of David his father; and he shall reign in the house of Jacob for ever.  33 And of his kingdom there shall be no end.  34 And Mary said to the angel: How shall this be done, because I know not man?  35 And the angel answering, said to her: The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the most High shall overshadow thee. And therefore also the Holy which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.




Offline AnthonyPadua

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Re: Why doesn't the Vulgate use YHWH (LORD)?
« Reply #9 on: December 26, 2023, 09:23:21 PM »
Well, you can keep the heretic busy by insisting that he first explain why he has any business complaining. AFter all… how many entire books is his fake "Bible' missing???

I think that Lad gave you a marvelously clear and succinct answer to shut his Prottie pie-hole.
Yeah, honestly JW's are another bunch of ridiculous, no matter how much evidence you give for showing the Divinity of Christ they just do not believe.