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Re: Why Catholic Conscience Demands Voting Abstention
« Reply #15 on: January 16, 2026, 09:59:56 AM »
I'm curious, was Queen Isabella a curse upon Spain?  How about Saint Adelaide, Empress of the Roman Empire?  Or the Servant of God Empress Zita of the Austro-Hungarian Empire?  Was France cursed because of St. Joan of Arc?  Queen Mary 1 (Mary Tudor) restored the Catholic Church in England during her reign.  Was that a curse?  When protestant Scotland was ruled by Catholic Mary Stuart, who protected the rights of the Church, was that a curse?  ... just wondering.
These were Catholic Monarchs- nobody voted them in and with Saints like Joan of Arc, God actually raised them up. In any case, the exeption proves the rule. 
But to actually allow women to vote in elections where " majority" rules is a recipe for disaster, as we are currently living it . 
I prefer to use our Lady as an example- I could never imagine her as a sufferagette.LOL

Re: Why Catholic Conscience Demands Voting Abstention
« Reply #16 on: January 16, 2026, 10:11:28 AM »
But in exceptional cases, a few of them understand this better than many men, right?::)
The reason why many men don't "get it" is that they have been feminized in their thinking-legitimizing and incorporating female emotionalism, judgements and even intrinsic feminine weaknesses. Many men are no longer true "men" because of zionist feminist propaganda built into the educational system and media for 100 years.


Re: Why Catholic Conscience Demands Voting Abstention
« Reply #17 on: January 16, 2026, 11:43:41 AM »
These were Catholic Monarchs- nobody voted them in and with Saints like Joan of Arc, God actually raised them up. In any case, the exception proves the rule.
I never said anything about voting (reference Reply #14).  I was replying to this statement: "Orestes Brownson said that any time a woman ruled, it was a curse upon the nation".  I gave examples of Catholic women who had ruled (again, NOTHING about voting) and asked if the nations they governed had been cursed.

It was a simple, legitimate, and honest question.  Please work on your reading comprehension.

Re: Why Catholic Conscience Demands Voting Abstention
« Reply #18 on: February 03, 2026, 01:43:13 AM »
This kind of thinking is extremely foolish and it is one of the reasons conservatives keep losing both in elections and elsewhere.

The moral rules for a country's leader ARE NOT THE SAME as individual moral rules.

With that being said, when the fate of MILLIONS rest upon our shoulder (80 million children every year get aborted !!), we do not have the LUXURY to care about having the perfect, pure candidate who does everything perfectly.

The biggest order of business would be to vote for a candidate who will either DIMINISH or ABOLISH abortion.

The problem with women voting isn't that they are women, but that 1)most women are neither christian nor catholic. 2)politics can directly or indirectly cause war, and only people who are expected to DIE should be able to vote.

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Re: Why Catholic Conscience Demands Voting Abstention
« Reply #19 on: February 03, 2026, 08:01:05 AM »
While I don't believe that voting is required, I also don't believe abstention is required.  That does not mean, however, that I believe that one can vote for evil candidates simply because they're the LESSER evil ... a grave error circulating far and wide (because people want to vote for certain candidates) even among Trads.

Yes, I agree that the voting system has been completely rigged and controlled, but I could go there and write someone in (as I did last election) where that doesn't mean that I believe in the legitimacy and fairness of the voting system, especially since I know my vote is just symbolic, since my writein candidate has zero chance.  In casting that vote I would not be endorsing the system, almost counter-endorsing it, just as some people will do things like vote for "Porky Pig" to express their disdain for the candidates ... but I think that in any other type of scenario, where you're going around pretending that the vote mattes, putting up signs for a candidate, promoting the candidate, etc. ... if you're gonig that far, then I think that OP's points are well taken.