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Offline MiracleOfTheSun

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Who Would You Include as Trad Inc?
« on: July 11, 2025, 01:17:53 PM »
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  • Wondering if there's a consensus on who or which entities make up Trad Inc.?  What are your thoughts?

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    Re: Who Would You Include as Trad Inc?
    « Reply #1 on: July 11, 2025, 02:11:01 PM »
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  • I think any “traditional” group approved by Rome and certain pro-agreement with Rome SSPX priests, as well as a lot modern SSPX faithful.


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    Re: Who Would You Include as Trad Inc?
    « Reply #2 on: July 11, 2025, 02:40:12 PM »
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  • That could be.  I had the assumption the term was more specifically aimed at media types like Taylor Marshall, The Remnant, etc.  I don't look at either of those but was wondering who else was in that camp.

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    Re: Who Would You Include as Trad Inc?
    « Reply #3 on: July 11, 2025, 02:54:39 PM »
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  • That could be.  I had the assumption the term was more specifically aimed at media types like Taylor Marshall, The Remnant, etc.  
    This is what I thought too.
    "But Peter and the apostles answering, said: We ought to obey God, rather than men." - Acts 5:29

    The Highest Principle in the Church: "We are first of all under obedience to God, and only then under obedience to man" - Fr. Hesse

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    Re: Who Would You Include as Trad Inc?
    « Reply #4 on: July 11, 2025, 04:05:52 PM »
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  • Anyone who enjoys relative popularity, makes good money, and isn't called too many serious names (anti-s3mite, conspiracy theorist, r4cist, etc.) AS a "Traditional Catholic".

    Personally, I can tell the difference night-and-day. Let's put it this way: if you're 100% faithful to Tradition, telling the truth (cost what it may) etc. there is a huge glass ceiling over your head. And the glass ceiling is SO LOW, it's hard to even make a living.
    The less you compromise, the smaller your audience, and the less acceptable you are to the "masses" or "mainstream", even among serious or conservative Catholics.

    Just look at CathInfo. It has almost no competition as far as Traditional Catholic forums. It's been around 19 years. The forum is fast, well-moderated, etc. And does it have even 1/10th the reach of Taylor Marshall? Despite having dozens of times the information, analysis, and interesting content? I'm talking about the hundreds of members here, not myself.

    Why wouldn't most of Taylor's audience prefer CathInfo? Because we are that list of -ists and -isms I mentioned earlier. They don't want the truth. They want conservative, or smells and bells -- but no farther. They're not interested in dying to (giving up) the world for Christ. They're not interested in putting Christ and His honor first to THAT degree. They don't want to lose any jobs or friends -- not even for the Truth or God's honor.
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    Re: Who Would You Include as Trad Inc?
    « Reply #5 on: July 11, 2025, 06:39:06 PM »
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  • I agree with everything being said - the more you pronounce against the errors the smaller your world becomes.

    My original intent was to see if there was consensus as to a list of the sites that are Trad Inc. - Taylor Marshall, 1 Peter 5, Life Site News, etc., if that makes sense.  What 'companies' are Trad Inc.

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    Re: Who Would You Include as Trad Inc?
    « Reply #6 on: July 11, 2025, 09:13:59 PM »
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  • Let's step aside from criticizing any person or organization.

    Just consider a hypothetical Traditional Catholic organization that could employ, say, 20 employees. Or even 10 employees. How would they afford this?
    It's not a restaurant, and even most restaurants pay their low-end employees $15/hour now. So we're talking some serious cash.

    You can't just start a Youtube channel, speak the truth, and get that kind of income. Youtube doesn't bring in what it once did. Unless you can reach the level of a Mr. Beast or CocoMelon. And that's not going to happen with ANY Catholic personality or organization.
    Nor can you start a website and put up banner ads. Yeah right! CathInfo makes about 25 bucks a month now from advertising.

    If you live off donations -- you're going to require a certain "breadth" of appeal to bring in enough money to pay 10 or 20 salaries. You would need to go beyond Traditional Catholics in the strict sense, whether classic SSPX/Resistance, independent, or Sedevacantist. There just isn't enough money sloshing around in the core of Tradition. Being faithful to Tradition makes you *poorer*, not richer. It's not like joining Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ, where it turbo-charges your career. Quite the opposite. Eliminating countless (lucrative) career paths, PLUS having all the children God sends -- that's not a recipe for material wealth.

    So you can't talk about X, Y, or Z. Otherwise say bye-bye to a huge chunk of your donors. As Steve Jalsevac complained about: as soon as they talked about more than "murdering babies is bad" (DUH!) they immediately start having issues with donors and donations.
    No offense to the Pro-Life movement, but that's basic, baby stuff. How hard is it to convince people, even rabid atheists, that murdering babies in the womb is wrong? It certainly doesn't take the supernatural gift of Faith.
    Talk about low-hanging fruit! It's like complaining about tranny men competing in girls sports, or Drag Queen Story Hour. Everyone's with you on that. Those opinions are downright popular. Perhaps the MSM tries to keep a lid on it, never show it, etc., but you're certainly in the majority, even if it's a silent majority.

    You can either be a business (Trad Inc, with all the compromise that goes along with it) or be a niche forum/channel/blog/personality, speak only the truth -- and barely be able to support YOURSELF, much less any employees.
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    Re: Who Would You Include as Trad Inc?
    « Reply #7 on: July 11, 2025, 09:48:23 PM »
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  • That could be.  I had the assumption the term was more specifically aimed at media types like Taylor Marshall, The Remnant, etc.  I don't look at either of those but was wondering who else was in that camp.
    I suppose it makes more sense that semi-traditionalist means any Rome-approved TLM group, while trad-nice means “traditional” influencers like Marshall, Peter Kwasniewski, Kennedy Hall, etc.


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    Re: Who Would You Include as Trad Inc?
    « Reply #8 on: July 15, 2025, 01:24:55 PM »
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  • I met a couple members of trad inc.  in person.  Disappointing. 
    They look down on most of us.  They travel the world and go to fancy high priced events.

    Look at the Catholics that went to Maralago party recently.  And Trump wasn’t even present. Lol. He was to busy with you know who.  

    The more I read the Bible about Jesus, the more I see trad inc isn’t compatible with true Catholicism. 

    When I see the famous picture the Angelus which is about poor people working in a farm field but they  took time to pray to God.  That’s Catholicism.

    I need to work on myself. I’m no saint.  But I never looked down on anyone.









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    Re: Who Would You Include as Trad Inc?
    « Reply #9 on: July 15, 2025, 01:52:11 PM »
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  • I rather pray the Rosary in my room than in public on street corners with unfriendly grifting hypocrites. 
    May God bless you and keep you

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    Re: Who Would You Include as Trad Inc?
    « Reply #11 on: July 17, 2025, 05:21:18 PM »
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  • About sums it up.  Nice one.

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    Re: Who Would You Include as Trad Inc?
    « Reply #12 on: July 17, 2025, 05:53:09 PM »
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  • About sums it up.  Nice one.
    # the sentiment! 

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    Re: Who Would You Include as Trad Inc?
    « Reply #13 on: July 17, 2025, 06:15:29 PM »
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  • I met a couple members of trad inc.  in person.  Disappointing. 
    They look down on most of us.  They travel the world and go to fancy high priced events.

    Look at the Catholics that went to Maralago party recently.  And Trump wasn’t even present. Lol. He was to busy with you know who. 

    The more I read the Bible about Jesus, the more I see trad inc isn’t compatible with true Catholicism. 

    When I see the famous picture the Angelus which is about poor people working in a farm field but they  took time to pray to God.  That’s Catholicism.

    I need to work on myself. I’m no saint.  But I never looked down on anyone.
    Trump had tradcat party at Maralago?  The nerve!  He didn’t invite me!  
    Just kidding.  But if he DID invite me, I’d probably go just to see it and say I’ve been there. 
    I have gone, or shall I say, “gotten in to” some unusual events among people out of my league. 
    Like you, Viva, I saw a copious amount of nose hair.  👃🍹 🍤🥢

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    Re: Who Would You Include as Trad Inc?
    « Reply #14 on: July 18, 2025, 05:38:27 AM »
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  • Returning to the question of the OP, here is a brief list of those to be included amongst Trad, Inc.:

    • Michael Matt & The Remnant
    • Taylor Marshall & The NSTI
    • Kennedy Hall
    • E. Michael Jones & Culture Wars
    • Eric Sammon & Crisis Magazine
    • Timothy Flanders & 1Peter5


    BUT these are definitely NOT to be included in Trad, Inc.:

    • Anthony Stine & Return to Tradition
    • Louis Verrechio & AKA Catholic
    • Hillary White
    • Rev. Fr. David Nix
    • Rev. Fr. James Mawdsley
    • Br. André Marie Villarubia, MICM


    This is obviously a brief listing, many prominent names are not mentioned. That is because I am not certain about some persons and am not in any position to determine their Trad, Inc. status or not.
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