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White Privilege my butt
« on: May 03, 2014, 03:05:32 PM »
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  • I thought this story was interesting -- it does cast some light on the liberal insanity that prevails in the world today.


    Freshman Shames Ivy League College
    with His Personal Story About
    ‘White Privilege’
    Talinside2
    “White privilege.” We’ve heard the phrase used often among left-leaning publications and throughout the esteemed halls of academia.
    Colleges and universities in America dogmatically teach the narrative that the playing field is unfairly balanced against minorities, while leaving the impression that whites have a cake walk and should not be proud of their achievements. After all, they’ve got it relatively easy.
    Tal Fortgang is a freshman from New Rochelle, NY who published this remarkable article in The Princeton Tory. It comes via The College Fix:

        There is a phrase that floats around college campuses, Princeton being no exception, that threatens to strike down opinions without regard for their merits, but rather solely on the basis of the person that voiced them. “Check your privilege,” the saying goes, and I have been reprimanded by it several times this year. The phrase, handed down by my moral superiors, descends recklessly, like an Obama-sanctioned drone, and aims laser-like at my pinkish-peach complexion, my maleness, and the nerve I displayed in offering an opinion rooted in a personal Weltanschauung. “Check your privilege,” they tell me in a command that teeters between an imposition to actually explore how I got where I am, and a reminder that I ought to feel personally apologetic because white males seem to pull most of the strings in the world.
        I do not accuse those who “check” me and my perspective of overt racism, although the phrase, which assumes that simply because I belong to a certain ethnic group I should be judged collectively with it, toes that line. But I do condemn them for diminishing everything I have personally accomplished, all the hard work I have done in my life, and for ascribing all the fruit I reap not to the seeds I sow but to some invisible patron saint of white maleness who places it out for me before I even arrive. Furthermore, I condemn them for casting the equal protection clause, indeed the very idea of a meritocracy, as a myth, and for declaring that we are all governed by invisible forces (some would call them “stigmas” or “societal norms”), that our nation runs on racist and sexist cօռspιʀαcιҽs. Forget “you didn’t build that;” check your privilege and realize that nothing you have accomplished is real.
        But they can’t be telling me that everything I’ve done with my life can be credited to the racist patriarchy holding my hand throughout my years of education and eventually guiding me into Princeton. Even that is too extreme. So to find out what they are saying, I decided to take their advice. I actually went and checked the origins of my privileged existence, to empathize with those whose underdog stories I can’t possibly comprehend. I have unearthed some examples of the privilege with which my family was blessed, and now I think I better understand those who assure me that skin color allowed my family and I to flourish today.
        Perhaps it’s the privilege my grandfather and his brother had to flee their home as teenagers when the nαzιs invaded Poland, leaving their mother and five younger siblings behind, running and running until they reached a Displaced Persons camp in Siberia, where they would do years of hard labor in the bitter cold until World War II ended. Maybe it was the privilege my grandfather had of taking on the local Rabbi’s work in that DP camp, telling him that the spiritual leader shouldn’t do hard work, but should save his energy to pass Jєωιѕн tradition along to those who might survive. Perhaps it was the privilege my great-grandmother and those five great-aunts and uncles I never knew had of being shot into an open grave outside their hometown. Maybe that’s my privilege.
        Or maybe it’s the privilege my grandmother had of spending weeks upon weeks on a death march through Polish forests in subzero temperatures, one of just a handful to survive, only to be put in Bergen-Belsen cσncєnтrαтισn cαмρ where she would have died but for the Allied forces who liberated her and helped her regain her health when her weight dwindled to barely 80 pounds.
        Perhaps my privilege is that those two resilient individuals came to America with no money and no English, obtained citizenship, learned the language and met each other; that my grandfather started a humble wicker basket business with nothing but long hours, an idea, and an iron will—to paraphrase the man I never met: “I escaped Hitler. Some business troubles are going to ruin me?” Maybe my privilege is that they worked hard enough to raise four children, and to send them to Jєωιѕн day school and eventually City College.
        Perhaps it was my privilege that my own father worked hard enough in City College to earn a spot at a top graduate school, got a good job, and for 25 years got up well before the crack of dawn, sacrificing precious time he wanted to spend with those he valued most—his wife and kids—to earn that living. I can say with certainty there was no legacy involved in any of his accomplishments. The wicker business just isn’t that influential.Now would you say that we’ve been really privileged? That our success has been gift-wrapped?
        That’s the problem with calling someone out for the “privilege” which you assume has defined their narrative. You don’t know what their struggles have been, what they may have gone through to be where they are. Assuming they’ve benefitted from “power systems” or other conspiratorial imaginary institutions denies them credit for all they’ve done, things of which you may not even conceive. You don’t know whose father died defending your freedom. You don’t know whose mother escaped oppression. You don’t know who conquered their demons, or may still conquering them now.
        The truth is, though, that I have been exceptionally privileged in my life, albeit not in the way any detractors would have it.
        It has been my distinct privilege that my grandparents came to America. First, that there was a place at all that would take them from the ruins of Europe. And second, that such a place was one where they could legally enter, learn the language, and acclimate to a society that ultimately allowed them to flourish.
        It was their privilege to come to a country that grants equal protection under the law to its citizens, that cares not about religion or race, but the content of your character.
        It was my privilege that my grandfather was blessed with resolve and an entrepreneurial spirit, and that he was lucky enough to come to the place where he could realize the dream of giving his children a better life than he had.
        But far more important for me than his attributes was the legacy he sought to pass along, which forms the basis of what detractors call my “privilege,” but which actually should be praised as one of altruism and self-sacrifice. Those who came before us suffered for the sake of giving us a better life. When we similarly sacrifice for our descendents by caring for the planet, it’s called “environmentalism,” and is applauded. But when we do it by passing along property and a set of values, it’s called “privilege.” (And when we do it by raising questions about our crippling national debt, we’re called Tea Party radicals.) Such sacrifice of any form shouldn’t be scorned, but admired.
        My exploration did yield some results. I recognize that it was my parents’ privilege and now my own that there is such a thing as an American dream which is attainable even for a penniless Jєωιѕн immigrant.
        I am privileged that values like faith and education were passed along to me. My grandparents played an active role in my parents’ education, and some of my earliest memories included learning the Hebrew alphabet with my Dad. It’s been made clear to me that education begins in the home, and the importance of parents’ involvement with their kids’ education—from mathematics to morality—cannot be overstated. It’s not a matter of white or black, male or female or any other division which we seek, but a matter of the values we pass along, the legacy we leave, that perpetuates “privilege.” And there’s nothing wrong with that.
        Behind every success, large or small, there is a story, and it isn’t always told by sex or skin color. My appearance certainly doesn’t tell the whole story, and to assume that it does and that I should apologize for it is insulting. While I haven’t done everything for myself up to this point in my life, someone sacrificed themselves so that I can lead a better life. But that is a legacy I am proud of.
        I have checked my privilege. And I apologize for nothing.

    Millions of Americans have similar stories: their parents or grandparents came to this country without a penny to their names and built their lives from the ground up in a land of freedom and opportunity.
    Today, “liberals” are arguing like everything was handed to white families on a silver platter, and imply that no one had to work hard for what they got.
    This is a bigoted point-of-view that smears the real contributions that many put into building this nation, and this intellectually dishonest phrase should be eliminated from colleges’ so-called “educated” discourse.
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    White Privilege my butt
    « Reply #1 on: May 03, 2014, 05:29:14 PM »
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  • 75% of all white people in the USA did not have relatives that were in the country when there was slavery.

    You point this out and "they" scream back at you that you still benefit from black slavery so you must pay.

    How do I benefit from the fact that Asians here from the mid-70s seem to be out pacing everyone else ?

    I guess there must have been white slavery in the 1700s in China, that must be it- take that chong, you must pay. That makes a lot of sense.


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    White Privilege my butt
    « Reply #2 on: May 03, 2014, 07:00:39 PM »
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  • Only 1% of the antebellum South actually owned slaves. 90% were rich
    Whites, and the secret that the  elitist wants to keep, rich free blacks
    also owned slaves.
    I do not think 1% justified an cινιℓ ωαr that killed thousands and
    thousands of innocent men, women and children.
    There is no White privilege in my observations. Blacks,  non whites and
    immigrants legal and illegal always get the first choice for a job.
    Young Whites always end in the Military where they learn to be very
    political correct, and social liberals.
    I do not argue against a color neutral society. I do believe that the
    best qualified regardless of race should get the jobs and promotions.
    Lack of qualified people in certain trades, medical, and other jobs
    will cause the social structures to deteriorate why a building and a
    bridge falls down after 10 years. People die from botched operations.
    People die from accidents because of the lack of emergency medical
    care.  Unqualified people being peace officers. Affirmative action has
    caused great damaged to society. And, has lowered standards to
    third world conditions.
    The mass media has to search out and condemn any racism
    raising its ugly head and only means White People. If they
    cannot find it they have to eaves drop into a taped private
    conversation and taking an interview out of context for the
    purposes of increasing racial tensions so the media can
    exploit it for their propaganda agendas.
    This is a deliberate plan by the ruling wealthy elite so there can
    never be any challenges to their rule.
    "Divide and Conquer" is their motto.

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    White Privilege my butt
    « Reply #3 on: May 03, 2014, 09:58:08 PM »
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  • The whole "White Guilt" for slavery thing is ridiculous.

    They never distinguish between WASPs and Irish-Americans, for example.

    My ancestors didn't own any slaves. They came over from Ireland around 150 years ago, as well as from the Catholic parts of Germany. They immigrated to the US after the cινιℓ ωαr was over, and they were working-class people. Certainly not rich enough to have servants or slaves of any color.

    Sorry, but no White Guilt here.
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    White Privilege my butt
    « Reply #4 on: May 03, 2014, 10:48:50 PM »
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  • White guilt seems to predominantly be an affliction of liberals.  It might be a way to detect if a trad is secretly a liberal.


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    White Privilege my butt
    « Reply #5 on: May 04, 2014, 12:48:28 AM »
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  • My ancestors worked closely with the Indians and had a good relationship, paid them just wages and lived in peace. No guilt here, either.

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    White Privilege my butt
    « Reply #6 on: May 04, 2014, 11:06:33 AM »
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  • Quote from: Matthew
    The whole "White Guilt" for slavery thing is ridiculous.

    They never distinguish between WASPs and Irish-Americans, for example.

    My ancestors didn't own any slaves. They came over from Ireland around 150 years ago, as well as from the Catholic parts of Germany. They immigrated to the US after the cινιℓ ωαr was over, and they were working-class people. Certainly not rich enough to have servants or slaves of any color.

    Sorry, but no White Guilt here.


    Nor here . . . and read the following about white slavery . . .

    "To Hell Or Barbados" by Sean O'Callaghan

    "White Gold: The Extraordinary Story of Thomas Pellow and North Africa's One Million European Slaves" by Giles Milton

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    White Privilege my butt
    « Reply #7 on: May 04, 2014, 11:38:32 AM »
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  • Even if my ancestors did own slaves, that is no reason for me to feel personally guilty.  

    Like Matthew, my ancestors came to this country from Ireland much too later for this to be an issue.  They might have owned slaves at some point in Ireland, I suppose, but the slaves would not have been African.
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