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Offline Marcelino

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White Guilt
« on: December 21, 2017, 09:21:25 PM »
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  • WHITE GUILT

    I think that "White Guilt" is an irrational feeling of guilt for how our ancestors treated Blacks, brought on by fake history and an over-active conscience, spurred on by endless prodding.  


    Kate Smith - That's Why Darkies Were Born - 1931


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    Re: White Guilt
    « Reply #1 on: December 21, 2017, 11:11:47 PM »
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  • Outside of leftist ideologue academic radicals (LIARs), I know of no one who feels guilty about "being white".  Especially when we view the videos of "women" fist-fighting over consumer goods during this "Season of Sharing" (as one retailer has euphemistically put it).

    As Martin Luther King so succinctly said, it's not "the color of your skin, but the content of your character" that counts.


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    Re: White Guilt
    « Reply #2 on: December 22, 2017, 12:46:45 AM »
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  • I too don't think white guilt is widespread, but including among leftist whites. I think leftist whites posture insincerely as feeling guilt. I remember in my teen years actually trying to memorize King's (and his Jєωιѕн handler, who co-wrote it) I Have a Dream speech and thinking how good this would make me look to people when I was able to recite it to them. If I had actually had genuine white guilt at the time I wouldn't have been so cynical at to try to make myself look good on the back of purported black suffering. It's all about narcissism and wanting people to view you as wonderful and courageous and sensitive.

    Sobran had a couple good quotes about white liberals being secretly un-PC:

    "The purpose of a college education is to learn the correct views on minorities, and to acquire the means to live as far away from them as possible."

    "The mating and migratory habits of white liberals are indistinguishable from that of the KKK."

    Given the tendency for white liberals to live in the whitest areas the claim can be made that liberalism functions for them as a sneaky form of protection for their racial and class interests.They're willing to spout PC rhetoric for un-PC ends.
    Some would have people believe that I'm a deceiver because I've used various handles on different Catholic forums. They only know this because I've always offered such information, unprompted. Various troll accounts on FE. Ben on SuscipeDomine. Patches on ABLF 1.0 and TeDeum. GuitarPlucker, Busillis, HatchC, and Rum on Cathinfo.

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    Re: White Guilt
    « Reply #3 on: December 22, 2017, 11:02:59 AM »
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  • Actually, "white guilt" is very prevalent among the political class, the academic class, journalists, lawyers, and among the very wealthy.  I would estimate close to 90% of these groups.

    You don't find this prevalent in the vast majority of people who simply live their lives and work ordinary jobs or run small businesses.  Among these people, I would estimate this psychological affliction affects less than 1%.

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    Re: White Guilt
    « Reply #4 on: December 22, 2017, 11:38:37 AM »
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    I wonder if it's true "guilt", or feigned in order to cultivate a PC persona.  Like the celebs who whine and cry about carbon footprints before hopping on their private jets and private yachts :fryingpan:


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    Re: White Guilt
    « Reply #5 on: December 22, 2017, 02:19:02 PM »
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  • I wonder if it's true "guilt", or feigned in order to cultivate a PC persona.  Like the celebs who whine and cry about carbon footprints before hopping on their private jets and private yachts :fryingpan:

    Personally, I used to think this.  But I no longer do.  Even the celebs who hypocritically fly on private and chartered jets to the next global warming conference actually believe the crap that they spout.  The same goes with the classes of people I noted above.  Their feelings of guilt are real even though it's based on nothing but falsehoods.

    As Chesterton noted, "When a man stops believing in God he doesn’t then believe in nothing, he believes anything."

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    Re: White Guilt
    « Reply #6 on: December 22, 2017, 04:42:11 PM »
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  • Chesterton is the BEST !

    Have you read the book or listened on youtube to Apostle of Common Sense?  

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    Re: White Guilt
    « Reply #7 on: December 22, 2017, 08:36:37 PM »
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  • I like that Chesterton show.  

    I think that White Guilt is supposed to be based on White Privilege, but can also be based on Institutional Racism. Institutional Racism is defined as: inherent racism in institutions that were formed by majority White populations and for their benefit.  White Privilege is defined as:  unearned benefits that Whites enjoy, because the country has been majority White for so long.  Whites are not supposed to feel guilty for being White;  they are supposed to feel guilty for White Privilege and Institutional Racism, which is the fault of White people, not people of color.  

    Obviously, an adult White person cannot change the past and sitting around feeling guilty about it, doesn't do much good.  So, they are supposed try and make a difference.  We are supposed to do this is by controlling our speech.  This is accomplished by self censorship and group censorship.  Peer pressure is an effective way of accomplishing this goal.    


    The P.C. Police

    Examples of White Privilege include:  

    ~People won't be surprised when you are articulate and well spoken.  
    ~You don't feel pressure to represent your race.
    ~You don't have to deal with negative crime statistics about your race.
    ~You don't have to hear that your race's iq is lower than White's.  
    ~You don't have to wonder if the grocery store will carry the foods you like.  
    ~You can find lots of books about your races history in the library.
    ~You don't have to struggle to learn the language.
    ~You can relate to television, especially the old stuff.  
    ~The most honored musicians in the culture belong to your race.  

    Ways to overcome White Privilege include:  

    ~Educate yourself about Anti-Racism (don't ask people of color, look it up yourself).  
    ~Avoid Cultural Appropriation (for example, if you are a twerker or a rapper, be sure to give credit to African Americans for inventing this when you twerk or rap, don't just act like you invented it, because that is offensive to people of color).
    ~Demand that your school, workplace, government (especially local), church, restaurant, website, whatever have an equal number of people of color as they do Whites, especially Straight White Men (by far the most privileged group in The World). Also, make sure that the people of color have an equal amount of power.
    ~Don't be nice to White people who segregate themselves from People Of Color or say racist things about them.  In fact, have nothing to do with them.  
    ~A token Person Of Color is not enough;  you need a lot of them.  
    ~Really come down hard on The Police, because they are institutionally racist.  If they do anything that even smacks of racism, severely criticize them.  This cannot be stressed enough.  They must be stopped.  Protest and give money to organizations that fight against racist police tactics.
    ~Call for fairness, when you encounter White Privilege.  For example, when a cab driver tries to pick you up, because you are a White, while trying to avoid picking up the Person Of Color.  That is a clear and outrageous example of White Privilege, which should be openly opposed.  In other words, refuse the cab and tell them to pick up The Person Of Color.    
    ~ Support Congressional studies that could lead to Reparations for Blacks, because of Slavery.





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    Re: White Guilt
    « Reply #8 on: December 22, 2017, 08:46:29 PM »
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  • Here's a whole bunch of white guilt: Not.

    https://www.stormfront.org/forum/

    :heretic:
    Rom 5: 20 - "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."

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    Re: White Guilt
    « Reply #9 on: December 22, 2017, 08:57:33 PM »
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  • Examples of White Privilege include:  

    ~People won't be surprised when you are articulate and well spoken.  
    ~You don't feel pressure to represent your race.
    ~You don't have to deal with negative crime statistics about your race.
    ~You don't have to hear that your race's iq is lower than White's.  
    ~You don't have to wonder if the grocery store will carry the foods you like.  
    ~You can find lots of books about your races history in the library.
    ~You don't have to struggle to learn the language.
    ~You can relate to television, especially the old stuff.  
    ~The most honored musicians in the culture belong to your race.  

    Ways to overcome White Privilege include:  

    ~Educate yourself about Anti-Racism (don't ask people of color, look it up yourself).  
    ~Avoid Cultural Appropriation (for example, if you are a twerker or a rapper, be sure to give credit to African Americans for inventing this when you twerk or rap, don't just act like you invented it, because that is offensive to people of color).
    ~Demand that your school, workplace, government (especially local), church, restaurant, website, whatever have an equal number of people of color as they do Whites, especially Straight White Men (by far the most privileged group in The World). Also, make sure that the people of color have an equal amount of power.
    ~Don't be nice to White people who segregate themselves from People Of Color or say racist things about them.  In fact, have nothing to do with them.  
    ~A token Person Of Color is not enough;  you need a lot of them.  
    ~Really come down hard on The Police, because they are institutionally racist.  If they do anything that even smacks of racism, severely criticize them.  This cannot be stressed enough.  They must be stopped.  Protest and give money to organizations that fight against racist police tactics.
    ~Call for fairness, when you encounter White Privilege.  For example, when a cab driver tries to pick you up, because you are a White, while trying to avoid picking up the Person Of Color.  That is a clear and outrageous example of White Privilege, which should be openly opposed.  In other words, refuse the cab and tell them to pick up The Person Of Color.    
    ~ Support Congressional studies that could lead to Reparations for Blacks, because of Slavery.
    If you actually believe what you wrote here, then you should look in the mirror to see the racist.

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    Re: White Guilt
    « Reply #10 on: December 22, 2017, 09:11:05 PM »
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  • If you actually believe what you wrote here, then you should look in the mirror to see the racist.
    Oh!  No, what I wrote is a summary of what I read at several websites, that are trying to explain White Privilege.  The websites I summarized believe that White Privilege is unjust and should be corrected through programs like Affirmative Action, Reparations and some of the other ways I mentioned in my post.  


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    Re: White Guilt
    « Reply #11 on: December 22, 2017, 10:16:08 PM »
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  • Double-minded people may be sufficiently delusional as to not realize their guilt is fake. A clue that someone has self-delusion is when their actions don't line up with their claims. The Sobran quotes perfectly illustrate the double-minded nature of white and Jєωιѕн progressives, especially in relation to blacks. Jєωs are so guilt-free that their intelligentsia cover up the extensive involvement Jєωs had in the Atlantic Slave Trade. Ben Affleck's guilt isn't sufficient to not try and cover up his slave-owning ancestor. He even had the black Henry Uncle Tom Gates help him do it.

    The attempt to guilt whites has a Jєω origin. It's not promoted by non-white gentiles who aren't servants of the Jєωs.
    Some would have people believe that I'm a deceiver because I've used various handles on different Catholic forums. They only know this because I've always offered such information, unprompted. Various troll accounts on FE. Ben on SuscipeDomine. Patches on ABLF 1.0 and TeDeum. GuitarPlucker, Busillis, HatchC, and Rum on Cathinfo.

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    Re: White Guilt
    « Reply #12 on: December 23, 2017, 12:17:40 AM »
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    Re: White Guilt
    « Reply #14 on: December 23, 2017, 06:44:11 AM »
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  • Oh!  No, what I wrote is a summary of what I read at several websites, that are trying to explain White Privilege.  The websites I summarized believe that White Privilege is unjust and should be corrected through programs like Affirmative Action, Reparations and some of the other ways I mentioned in my post.  

    I apologize for my misunderstanding.  I read and re-read, then I read it again.  I couldn't believe what I was reading.  
    I read it again, trying to see how the person who started the topic could be writing this.  I wondered how a person who had posted more than 1400 times on this forum could possibly hold these racist views.  In the end, I felt I had to respond.

    I am so relieved that this is not how your mind works.  I've known people in the workplace who truly have these kinds of thoughts and this perversion in their reasoning permeates their entire world-view.  They usually cannot be reasoned with. They see everything in terms of race.  Someone who once had this sort of thought process told me that she was taught--and believed--that ancient Egyptians could fly but white invaders, i.e., the Jєωs, slaughtered all the special Egyptians.  She started having second thoughts on all that when she actually started meeting white people because she left her inner-city neighborhood.  She told me that she was surprised at how many people still believed such nonsense.

    Thank you for clarifying this for me.