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Offline DZ PLEASE

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Re: What to you see as the coming "great deception"
« Reply #165 on: September 13, 2017, 12:35:59 PM »
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  • Did he really say that?
    Yeah, well . . . flat earth "dogma." :(
    I just... wow.
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    Re: What to you see as the coming "great deception"
    « Reply #166 on: September 13, 2017, 02:55:20 PM »
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  • To get back to the original intent of the thread, I'll throw in my 2 cents on the "great deception".  

    I believe one poster had already opined that the great deception has already occurred, which I'm inclined to believe myself.  

    I am of the belief that the Chair of Peter has been vacant since the 1958 conclave.  When Cardinal Siri was threatened, after he had received the most votes, he abandoned his responsibility and Roncalli was "elected"; taking the name of a previous antipope - John XXIII.  Curiously enough, the original antipope John XXIII called a false council during the Western Schism.  Following suit, of his antipope predecessor, Roncalli called for the false council - Vatican II.  

    In my opinion, the great deception, brought on in 1958, was that the devil and his cohorts placed themselves in the Temple of God and built a counterfeit church, directly opposed to the Catholic Church, striking the shepherd and scattering the flock.  

    The Blessed Mother warned the world at La Salette when she said, "Rome will lose the faith and become the seat of the Anti-Christ...the Church will be in eclipse."  

         
    Please pray for all of the holy souls in purgatory.


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    Re: What to you see as the coming "great deception"
    « Reply #167 on: September 13, 2017, 11:36:57 PM »
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  • You obviously do not support the Resistance, as a sedevacantist. That's okay. But why are you here, exactly?

    And why are the other Sedevacantists on this thread?
    Your female logic & reasoning is starting to show.  Isn't there a man that you should be making a sandwich for right now?

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    Re: What to you see as the coming "great deception"
    « Reply #168 on: September 13, 2017, 11:40:47 PM »
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  • It's the globe-earther Sedevacantists who have been accusing flat-earthers of being trolls lately on this thread. And they don't support the Resistance. So accusing flat-earthers of being trolls is hypocritical. You'll have to read all of the posts for today to see what I mean.  
    Yes--I did.  Now I think my head is done with the spin cycle and is ready for the rinse cycle.  I'm not sure I can even think straight after that session of somersault logic.

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    Re: What to you see as the coming "great deception"
    « Reply #169 on: September 13, 2017, 11:42:29 PM »
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  • Since you do not support the Resistance, why do you accuse those who do of being trolls?
    This really isn't how "argument" and "logic" work.


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    Re: What to you see as the coming "great deception"
    « Reply #170 on: September 13, 2017, 11:51:17 PM »
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  • At least we support the Resistance, and as such are not trolls. And the Resistance bishops, while they do not endorse the flat-earth, they also have not said that we cannot debate it. We are allowed to debate it. That's how the Church works. We can debate that which has not been solemnly defined, isn't that right?

    Of course you'll not provide a coherent answer.
    Sure, you can debate it and look like trailer park trash describing an alien landing, if you like.  I just take issue with the flat-earthers asserting, or coming flirtingly close to asserting, that flat-earth is dogma.  I further take issue with the ones misusing the Bible like protestants do.  And the diabolical obsession with the topic--page after page in thread after thread.  This IS NOT a matter necessary to the Faith.

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    Re: What to you see as the coming "great deception"
    « Reply #171 on: September 14, 2017, 04:25:40 AM »
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  • Your female logic & reasoning is starting to show.  Isn't there a man that you should be making a sandwich for right now?
    I gave you a thumbs up, OHCA, and I'm a female!
    I too am fed up with 
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    the diabolical obsession with the topic--page after page in thread after thread. 

     And what has sedevacant or resistance got to do with it? I don't belong to any of these camps. I'm just a Catholic. These people should be somehow confined - silly as cut snakes! I wonder if Matthew can do something?

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    Re: What to you see as the coming "great deception"
    « Reply #172 on: September 14, 2017, 07:25:58 AM »
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  • The Blessed Mother warned the world at La Salette when she said, "Rome will lose the faith and become the seat of the Anti-Christ...the Church will be in eclipse."  

        
    The Church is definitely in eclipse.


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    Re: What to you see as the coming "great deception"
    « Reply #173 on: September 14, 2017, 09:46:32 AM »
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  • I gave you a thumbs up, OHCA, and I'm a female!
    I too am fed up with
     And what has sedevacant or resistance got to do with it? I don't belong to any of these camps. I'm just a Catholic. These people should be somehow confined - silly as cut snakes! I wonder if Matthew can do something?

    If Sedevacantism can be debated, then it makes sense that the Flat earth can be debated as well. The forum is mainly a Resistance forum (not a sedevacantist or flat earth forum) and yet both are allowed to be discussed (though I am NOT a fan of sedevacantism myself). Even BoD, which is quite controversial, is allowed.

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    Re: What to you see as the coming "great deception"
    « Reply #174 on: September 14, 2017, 09:49:21 AM »
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  • If Sedevacantism can be debated, then it makes sense that the Flat earth can be debated as well. The forum is mainly a Resistance forum (not a sedevacantist or flat earth forum) and yet both are allowed to be discussed (though I am NOT a fan of sedevacantism myself). Even BoD, which is quite controversial, is allowed.
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    Re: What to you see as the coming "great deception"
    « Reply #175 on: September 14, 2017, 09:52:00 AM »
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  • Sure, you can debate it and look like trailer park trash describing an alien landing, if you like.  I just take issue with the flat-earthers asserting, or coming flirtingly close to asserting, that flat-earth is dogma.  I further take issue with the ones misusing the Bible like protestants do.  And the diabolical obsession with the topic--page after page in thread after thread.  This IS NOT a matter necessary to the Faith.

    I've yet to see the elusive "Flat earth is Dogma" from any flat earthers. You'll have to show specific posts in which this is shown.

    Yes, it can sometimes be an obsession, but I cannot see that it is diabolical, since there were Church Fathers who taught the flat earth. Unless you believe that those Church Fathers were under diabolical influence.


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    Re: What to you see as the coming "great deception"
    « Reply #176 on: September 14, 2017, 09:55:22 AM »
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  • I've yet to see the elusive "Flat earth is Dogma" from any flat earthers. You'll have to show specific posts in which this is shown.


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    Re: For Flat Earthers
    « Reply #1 on: September 09, 2017, 00:39:53 »
    You are ignoring this user.
    Flat Earth Dogma is in the Book of Genesis in the Holy Bible.




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    Re: What to you see as the coming "great deception"
    « Reply #177 on: September 14, 2017, 10:05:43 AM »
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    Re: For Flat Earthers
    « Reply #1 on: September 09, 2017, 00:39:53 »
    You are ignoring this user.
    Flat Earth Dogma is in the Book of Genesis in the Holy Bible.




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    Not ignoring. I'd forgotten about that one. I think the assertion was that it's dogma because it's part of Sacred Scripture. Or something like that. I don't agree, of course, that it's dogma, at least in the sense that it's one of the defined dogmas of the Catholic Church that we are required to believe in as Catholics. 

    Tell me, DZ, you accept all of the actual defined Dogmas of the Catholic Church? 

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    Re: What to you see as the coming "great deception"
    « Reply #178 on: September 14, 2017, 10:10:26 AM »
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  • Not ignoring. I'd forgotten about that one. I think the assertion was that it's dogma because it's part of Sacred Scripture. Or something like that. I don't agree, of course, that it's dogma, at least in the sense that it's one of the defined dogmas of the Catholic Church.
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    Re: What to you see as the coming "great deception"
    « Reply #179 on: September 14, 2017, 10:18:32 AM »
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  • Hey, I said that I don't agree that the earth is a defined dogma, if that's what the poster was asserting. What more do you want? I'll spell it out for you more clearly:

    The Flat earth is not a defined dogma of the Catholic Church. It's not a good idea for flat-earthers to assert that it is.

    I assume, DZ, that you do accept ALL of the defined dogmas of the Church though, right? I know I do.

     

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