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Offline Meg

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Re: What to you see as the coming "great deception"
« Reply #90 on: September 12, 2017, 05:20:28 PM »
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  • This is not a flat earth site. This is supposedly a Catholic site. I keep posting on these threads to warn you and others to not attach any importance to this matter. We can already see the damage it's doing to your souls. You keep claiming to be Catholic and ask others if they believe in Dogma but then you yourself more or less elevates a non-religious topic to level of Dogma.

    As long as the owner of this forum allows the discussion, the debate will continue.
    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29

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    Re: What to you see as the coming "great deception"
    « Reply #91 on: September 12, 2017, 05:24:17 PM »
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  • This is not a flat earth site. This is supposedly a Catholic site. I keep posting on these threads to warn you and others to not attach any importance to this matter. We can already see the damage it's doing to your souls. You keep claiming to be Catholic and ask others if they believe in Dogma but then you yourself more or less elevates a non-religious topic to level of Dogma.
    God created the Flat Earth; of course the Flat Earth subject will be heavily discussed on a Catholic forum within a Catholic Circle. This subject will continue to go around and around. ;D  8)


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    Re: What to you see as the coming "great deception"
    « Reply #92 on: September 12, 2017, 05:29:28 PM »
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  • This is not a flat earth site. This is supposedly a Catholic site. I keep posting on these threads to warn you and others to not attach any importance to this matter. We can already see the damage it's doing to your souls. You keep claiming to be Catholic and ask others if they believe in Dogma but then you yourself more or less elevates a non-religious topic to level of Dogma.
    Some of the people on CathInfo.com who believe the earth is globe claim this is not a Flat Earth site; they are sure continuing to turn this site into one. That means our side is prevailing. ;D  ;)  :popcorn:

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    Re: What to you see as the coming "great deception"
    « Reply #93 on: September 12, 2017, 06:05:04 PM »
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  • I agree that modern science has had a factor in the paganization of society but that's only because they have taken God out of the equation. It's not because they claim the Earth is a globe. This is all very irrelevant, as the quote provided shows, and actually detracts from what matters.

    Yes, they have taken God out of the equation. So true. And one of the main ways in which they went about doing this is to make us believe that we are just some random planet in the universe that happens to have human life on it. They have tried to make us believe that our earth is not unique, and that surely there's life on other planets, somewhere. 

    The basis of the reason for taking God out of the equation is that they (scientists, educators, governments, NASA, television, Hollywood, and even religious leaders) are telling us or implying that our earth is not made by God for us humans. For me, that's the bottom line. It's where the terrible heresy starts.  The idea of the globe earth makes it all the more possible to teach the lie. 

    Or, they push the Freemasonic agenda, which is that the GAOTU (great architect of the universe) created our universe and planet and then left it to us to sort it all out. 
    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29

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    Re: What to you see as the coming "great deception"
    « Reply #94 on: September 12, 2017, 06:09:25 PM »
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  • Some of the people on CathInfo.com who believe the earth is globe claim this is not a Flat Earth site; they are sure continuing to turn this site into one. That means our side is prevailing. ;D  ;)  :popcorn:


    The reason it matters is this: modern science has been a great factor in the increase of the Paganization of our society. Do you disagree?

    When or if people come to this site possibly in search of Catholic Truth and all they see is people debating the shape of the Earth, how disposed do you think they will be to continue their search here. Especially if there are those who view Scripture like protestants and make their own interpretations.

    The only thing "your side" (lol) is prevailing in is looking ridiculous. I am trying to help you by showing that this really has no importance to a Catholic. If you were to discuss things that could actually be proved from Scripture verses, say a protestant or someone in the V2 religion, then that would be worthwhile. Your quotes and "proof", which are mostly gained from amateur YouTubers, only serve to show that you all are either shills or very inept in the way of common sense.

    I agree that modern science has had a factor in the paganization of society but that's only because they have taken God out of the equation. It's not because they claim the Earth is a globe. This is all very irrelevant, as the quote provided shows, and actually detracts from what matters.
    God created the Flat Earth; you may not think God's complete creation is of importance, but, I do.


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    Re: What to you see as the coming "great deception"
    « Reply #95 on: September 12, 2017, 06:30:18 PM »
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  • Yes, and there are explicit condemnations and Dogmas concerning these things. I look at this place as a way to get Catholics all on the same page pertaining to Church Dogma. This is where we should be exploring the differences. After all, the true and proper Faith is the only way to heaven. Dividing those who call themselves Catholics further on a matter as unimportant as FE is not only a waste of time but is detrimental.

    Is Church dogma the only thing that you comment on, here on the forum?

    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29

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    Re: What to you see as the coming "great deception"
    « Reply #96 on: September 12, 2017, 10:33:52 PM »
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  • I agree that modern science has had a factor in the paganization of society but that's only because they have taken God out of the equation.
    You seem to forget that they took God OUT of the equation by CHANGING THE MODEL OF HIS CREATION.
    You cannot have an insignificant, God-less world in an infinite space unless you change it from being the protected enclosed flat plane of the Bible and turn it into a tiny ball, whirling, spinning planet, travelling aimlessly through a vast void of many other distant, unreachable, whirling, spinning planets.

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    Re: What to you see as the coming "great deception"
    « Reply #97 on: September 13, 2017, 12:21:53 AM »
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  • That scripture passage reminds me of the people trying unsuccessfully to turn a Line into a Sphere; It will NEVER work and yet they keep trying.  :jester: They continue to prove us right. :applause:
    So is or isn't it?


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    Re: What to you see as the coming "great deception"
    « Reply #98 on: September 13, 2017, 05:45:39 AM »
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  • The reason it matters is this: modern science has been a great factor in the increase of the Paganization of our society. Do you disagree?
    People figured out that the earth is not flat long before modern science.  :fryingpan:  This IS NOT a modern science concoction.

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    Re: What to you see as the coming "great deception"
    « Reply #99 on: September 13, 2017, 05:54:03 AM »
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  • Quote from St. Basil:

    "He [Moses] has passed over in silence, as useless, all that is unimportant for us."

    I understand what St. Basil is saying. It seems that his view was that we can give too much importance as to the shape of the earth, or eclipses, etc.

    There was a time when debating the shape of the earth would not have been needed, but it is needed now, IMO, given what has become of science. I do think that spending a lot of time speculating about the shape of the earth can take away from other things that we should be doing instead. However, St. Basil does not say what he believes the shape of the earth to be. He does say this in chapter four of the Hexaemeron:

    ...."Heaven, poised like a dome, to quote the words of the prophet; [1523] earth, this immense mass which rests upon itself; the air around it, of a soft and fluid nature, a true and continual nourishment for all who breathe it...[...]."

    St. Basil does refer to Heaven as "poised like a dome," and that..."this immense earth which rests upon itself," which to me seems like it refers to a flat plane, though that may be debatable.

    Link to chapter four here:
    https://www.elpenor.org/basil/hexaemeron.asp?pg=32
    This is a special kind of dense:  Acknowledging that St. Basil says the shape is unimportant, and then trying to prove what his view was by referring to his similes & metaphors, the very methods that he says are inconclusive.  WOW!

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    Re: What to you see as the coming "great deception"
    « Reply #100 on: September 13, 2017, 05:58:18 AM »
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  • People figured out that the earth is not flat long before modern science.  :fryingpan:  This IS NOT a modern science concoction.
    It's hardly just to the field to blame it, or scientists as such, for this sad state of affairs.


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    Re: What to you see as the coming "great deception"
    « Reply #101 on: September 13, 2017, 05:58:41 AM »
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  • If you truly thought the fact that the shape of the earth is flat is really that unimportant, you wouldn't continue post in Flat Earth threads. I think you might be in the process of converting to our side. :jumping2:  :applause:
    Which are you--a delusional dumbass or an infiltrator?

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    Re: What to you see as the coming "great deception"
    « Reply #102 on: September 13, 2017, 06:01:55 AM »
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  • Which are you--a delusional dumbass or an infiltrator?
    If this were just some secular thread, what would this behaivior likely be deemed?

    I dub it "troll".

    Nothing more or less. Nothing Catholic, just trolls, no?

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    Re: What to you see as the coming "great deception"
    « Reply #103 on: September 13, 2017, 06:04:34 AM »
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  • You seem to forget that they took God OUT of the equation by CHANGING THE MODEL OF HIS CREATION.
    You cannot have an insignificant, God-less world in an infinite space unless you change it from being the protected enclosed flat plane of the Bible and turn it into a tiny ball, whirling, spinning planet, travelling aimlessly through a vast void of many other distant, unreachable, whirling, spinning planets.
    This post serves as good of an example of mental disconnect as I have seen.

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    Re: What to you see as the coming "great deception"
    « Reply #104 on: September 13, 2017, 06:10:28 AM »
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  • If this were just some secular thread, what would this behaivior likely be deemed?

    I dub it "troll".

    Nothing more or less. Nothing Catholic, just trolls, no?
    They're trolling us BECAUSE it's a Catholic website.  They wouldn't be nearly as interested in trolling us otherwise.  All of the single-issue new members that have came out to advance flat-earth screams troll at me.