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Offline Nadir

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Re: What to you see as the coming "great deception"
« Reply #60 on: September 08, 2017, 04:09:40 PM »
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    • Quote from: DZ PLEASE on September 08, 2017, 03:57:20 AM
    Likewise miss/ma'am.
    You can call me Nadir :pray:
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    Re: What to you see as the coming "great deception"
    « Reply #61 on: September 08, 2017, 04:19:35 PM »
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    • Quote from: tornpage on September 08, 2017, 04:02:05 PM
    The more I think about this its the Conciliar Church, period. People thinking its the Catholic Church.

    When the ultimate issue is the salvation of souls (which requires the true faith), and with the Church being "the pillar and ground of truth," a false Church speaking heresy and deceiving people into thinking its the real one (thus getting them to believe heresy) is about the greatest deception the world can have.

    "Proselytism is solemn nonsense" in light of the Great Commission . . .

    I'd say we are there.

    Whether the flat earth is thought round, whether the centered geo is thought just another ball circling around - these are traffic violations compared to this murder.
    I agree with you that these are traffic violations compared to this murder. However, I think the setting up of the NWO Church is related to a fake staged alien invasion in which the enemy posing as a "good alien" from another planet to save us from the "bad aliens."
    he is the father of lies, complex lies many centuries old, complex lies fed to us K through university, fed to us in TV, movies, books and fake news. A complex network of lies which teach us that we are insignificant dots of evolved animal life on an insignificant planet among billions of other galaxies and of course alien life exists on those other planets.
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    Offline Tradplorable

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    Re: What to you see as the coming "great deception"
    « Reply #62 on: September 09, 2017, 09:40:48 AM »
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    • Quote from: tornpage on September 08, 2017, 04:02:05 PM


    Whether the flat earth is thought round, whether the centered geo is thought just another ball circling around - these are traffic violations compared to this murder.
    Your so-called traffic violation is the first heresy.
    From which all the others and the murders from the False Religion of the Conciliar Church flow.
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    Offline Neil Obstat

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    Re: What to you see as the coming "great deception"
    « Reply #63 on: September 09, 2017, 05:20:13 PM »
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     the coming great deception about which the Bible warns us, in which the enemy sets himself up as an alien god from another planet, planetary system and galaxy who seeded life on earth billions of years ago and now needs to be worshiped.
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    Where does the Bible warn us about that?
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    Offline Neil Obstat

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    Re: What to you see as the coming "great deception"
    « Reply #64 on: September 09, 2017, 05:33:05 PM »
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    • Quote from: cassini on September 05, 2017, 08:42:23 AM
    I see the flat-earthers have found another thread to spin their nonsense. It seems they are taking over this forum and ruining thread after thread. Let us get back to Cera's OP request.
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    Okay, but I'm sure they can't think of it as ruining, not yet anyway. Once they learn the truth they'll be able to see how much their redundancy amounted to nothing. Misplaced zeal can become embarrassing.
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    Spot on Cera, the appearance of aliens could well be the next 'great deception.' They will of course be devils.
    Perhaps you do not know but a Pope has already condemned such an deception.

    Pope Pius II (1458-1464)
    Errors of Zanini de Solcia

    (1) That the world should be naturally destroyed and ended by the heat of the sun...

    Today, in the news all over the world we hear about Pioneer spacecraft that will outlive the earth that will be destroyed by the heat of the sun. The Pioneer spacecraft is loaded with stories of humanity and will be found by "intelligent life out there, Aliens.

    (3) That God created another world than this one... and that other men and women existed.

    Pope Francis and his Copernican/Galilean/Newtonian/Einsteinian astronomers have begun this deception as you say.

    Francis would have no problem BAPTIZING THEM. Now what is BAPTISM for. Only descendants of Adam and Eve need BAPTISM so does Francis not know that? Or is he going along with the condemned doctrine of other Adams?
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    Interesting citations -- anything of faith or morals once condemned by a Pope is irrefutable in the future.
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    Heard a talk show just yesterday saying the world will end when people all die because of a natural disaster (like the heat of the sun but they were saying an asteroid, meaning a large meteor).
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    So, what happened to (2)?
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    Offline Tradplorable

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    Re: What to you see as the coming "great deception"
    « Reply #65 on: September 09, 2017, 06:19:44 PM »
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    • Quote from: Neil Obstat on September 09, 2017, 05:33:05 PM
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    Heard a talk show just yesterday saying the world will end when people all die because of a natural disaster (like the heat of the sun but they were saying an asteroid, meaning a large meteor).
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    That kind of sounds like the Great Chastisement.
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    Offline DZ PLEASE

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    Re: What to you see as the coming "great deception"
    « Reply #66 on: September 09, 2017, 11:39:29 PM »
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    • Quote from: Nadir on September 08, 2017, 04:09:40 PM
    You can call me Nadir :pray:
    Thank you Nadir.
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    Re: What to you see as the coming "great deception"
    « Reply #67 on: September 10, 2017, 11:59:08 AM »
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    • Quote from: Neil Obstat on September 09, 2017, 05:33:05 PM
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    Okay, but I'm sure they can't think of it as ruining, not yet anyway. Once they learn the truth they'll be able to see how much their redundancy amounted to nothing. Misplaced zeal can become embarrassing.
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    Interesting citations -- anything of faith or morals once condemned by a Pope is irrefutable in the future.
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    Heard a talk show just yesterday saying the world will end when people all die because of a natural disaster (like the heat of the sun but they were saying an asteroid, meaning a large meteor).
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    So, what happened to (2)?
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    (2) That all Christians are to be saved.

    There are 9 in all Neil.

    Perhaps the most useful book that came into my hands was  Denzinger's THE SOURCES OF CATHOLIC DOGMA. 1955 edition.
    There are about 20 decrees of the Holy Office in it, the first in 1602, 4 years after it was fully formed. Missing of course is the 1616 decree, the only one that defined and declared formal heresy. I tell you, politicians are in second place compared to the tactics of churchmen.
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    Re: What to you see as the coming "great deception"
    « Reply #68 on: September 10, 2017, 03:23:44 PM »
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    • Quote from: tornpage on September 10, 2017, 11:20:01 AM
    As DZ has pointed out, you all have failed to identify the "dogma" of Flat Earth beyond your protesta(n)tions of Scripture. Pun intended.
    Tell us, when did the Church go into heresy by denying the flat earth . . . ahem . . . "dogma."

    When it endorsed heliocentrism, then later evolution.
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    Re: What to you see as the coming "great deception"
    « Reply #69 on: September 10, 2017, 03:28:15 PM »
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    • Quote from: Tradplorable on September 10, 2017, 03:23:44 PM
    When it endorsed heliocentrism, then later evolution.

    Here it is. Right here. The brood of Dick Ibranyi, at least in spirit, if not literally one of his sad cultists.

    IF we wait long enough, S. Peter will be denounced as an apostate.

    "Fruit" 4: He believes not just that the Church CAN defect, but THAT IT HAS, and still claims to be Catholic.

    Conclusion? Protestant "small c" "catholic", or an Anglican on a perpetual "Scrumpy" bender.
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    Re: What to you see as the coming "great deception"
    « Reply #70 on: September 10, 2017, 03:46:45 PM »
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    • Quote from: DZ PLEASE on September 10, 2017, 03:28:15 PM
    Here it is. Right here. The brood of Dick Ibranyi, at least in spirit, if not literally one of his sad cultists.

    IF we wait long enough, S. Peter will be denounced as an apostate.

    "Fruit" 4: He believes not just that the Church CAN defect, but THAT IT HAS, and still claims to be Catholic.

    Conclusion? Protestant "small c" "catholic", or an Anglican on a perpetual "Scrumpy" bender.
    Who the hell is DIck Ibranyi??
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    Re: What to you see as the coming "great deception"
    « Reply #71 on: September 11, 2017, 11:47:28 AM »
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    • God's people are lost because of insufficient love for Truth, i.e. insufficient love for Him.

    That is also de fide, because it explicitly stated in the Bible.

    "And in all seduction of iniquity [sin] to them that perish; because they receive not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. Therefore God shall send them the operation of error, to believe lying:" 2 Thess. 2:10-11/DRV

    The lie of the earth being a globe is a powerful delusion, so powerful that it is nearly universally believed. Those who have broken free from this terrible delusion have responded to the grace God has given them to believe their eyes, their senses, and His Word.
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    Re: What to you see as the coming "great deception"
    « Reply #72 on: September 11, 2017, 05:48:38 PM »
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    • Quote from: tornpage on September 10, 2017, 11:20:01 AM
    As DZ has pointed out, you all have failed to identify the "dogma" of Flat Earth beyond your protesta(n)tions of Scripture. Pun intended.
    Tell us, when did the Church go into heresy by denying the flat earth . . . ahem . . . "dogma."
    Was it Pius VII, Benedict XIV?  . . . do tell us.
    The Church didn't go into heresy, but the people have become pagans. They believe false modern science over God's revealed truth.
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    Re: What to you see as the coming "great deception"
    « Reply #73 on: September 11, 2017, 06:17:12 PM »
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    • Quote from: happenby on September 11, 2017, 05:48:38 PM
    The Church didn't go into heresy, but the people have become pagans. They believe false modern science over God's revealed truth.
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    The Church has never taught "flat-earth" and it never will because it's obviously a fairy tale. 
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    Re: What to you see as the coming "great deception"
    « Reply #74 on: September 11, 2017, 06:21:52 PM »
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    • Quote from: Neil Obstat on September 11, 2017, 06:17:12 PM
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    The Church has never taught "flat-earth" and it never will because it's obviously a fairy tale.
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    Do you want to see some pictures of the Flat Earth Horizon?
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