I believe in geocentrism. I believe that NASA has lied to us, as part of a long, long list of govt lies, both in the science and non science realms, and which lies ultimately started in the post-middle ages with Copernicus.
What I don't see is the importance placed on flat earth vs globe. I can count on one hand the # of times I've thought about this "issue" and I'm not going to lose sleep over such a trivial matter.
The point of the debate should be that 1) science has been hijacked by heretics and is worshipped as a religion by Freemasons 2) science doesn't contradict the Bible or Faith 3) the Bible is both historically and scientifically true.
The debate over flat vs globe, while interesting, is not the point. Geocentrism should be the emphasis, because this is first step back towards a true understanding of science. But even this goal pales in importance to the main goal, which is REDUCING science's importance in the order of learning. Arguing about flat vs globe is like arguing over the color of dress Our Lady wore when She was assumed into heaven. It's a distraction.
Pax, you make some great points, especially:
"The point of the debate should be that 1) science has been hijacked by heretics and is worshipped as a religion by Freemasons 2) science doesn't contradict the Bible or Faith 3) the Bible is both historically and scientifically true."
I think these three points are the primary motivation of proponents of both flat earth theory and geocentric theory. So what differentiates the two perspectives?
One view has a more respectability in the secular world. One can hold one's head high and not be considered nutty. That secular comfort does not equate with the truth. Sometimes when one holds to the truth, we are mocked. That does not change the truth and should not be a conscious factor in our decision-making process. I think with most geocentricists, the decision is unconscious.
Both the Bible and the Church Fathers are very clear about denying globe theory. Much of the problem with Bible translations is that the word which meant "circle" was mistranslated as "globe." (It's been a while since I researched this, so I don't remember the word itself-- should be easy to find with some searching -- I don't have time right now due to medical issues.)
The reason I do not think this issue is a distraction is related to the motivation of the Freemasons who are pushing the pseudo-science taught in school from K to university, and pushed unceasingly in media. Part of their motivation is to unseat God and His creation, and to mock religion as the opposite of their pseudo-science, but there is more to it than that.
I think the primary motivation of the Freemasons/ Lucifarians is to create the illusion that we here on earth are an insignificant speck in an infinite universe of other solar systems, planetary systems and life forms.
Is this not the perfect set-up for demons posing as aliens from another planet to infest earth (fake staged "alien" invasion.) Could this be the "coming great deception" about which we have been warned? We know that one ploy of the enemy is "order out of chaos." It is possible that chaos will be created in order to pave the way for (satanic) order to be restored by the enemy. Might this not be the way in which the enemy, posing as an alien savior from another planet sets himself up to be worshiped in the place of God?
Please pray for discernment regarding this issue.