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Offline Tradplorable

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Re: What to you see as the coming "great deception"
« Reply #45 on: September 05, 2017, 09:25:45 AM »
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  • Pope Francis and his Copernican/Galilean/Newtonian/Einsteinian astronomers have begun this deception as you say.
    Francis would have no problem BAPTIZING THEM. Now what is BAPTISM for. Only descendants of Adam and Eve need BAPTISM so does Francis not know that? Or is he going along with the condemned doctrine of other Adams?
    And yet it does not even occur to Cassini that in order to perpetuate the idea that there is life elsewhere, you need earth to be a ball and in a heliocentric system.
    Otherwise, if the earth is a flat plane and NOT a celestial body like the moon or stars, there is no life anywhere but here. This seems to have slipped right by you.

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    Re: What to you see as the coming "great deception"
    « Reply #46 on: September 05, 2017, 01:43:41 PM »
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  • Indeed Tradploable, Traditional Catholics can recognize the devastating power of evolution, global warming and the pretense of aliens, yet they consider these problems like individual components of a storm... like rain, wind and surge rather than seeing the hurricane driving them. The heliocentric model of earth, the "hurricane", is being fed warm water (money) and steering (globalist control) because the masses support heliocentrism whose effects thereby increase from all that it needs to become a super storm: An epic storm which has now become the biggest manmade disaster in world history. With Americans feeding NASA and globalism billions of dollars in order to indoctrinate them, they become sitting ducks on what appears to be safe waters as something worse than a conglomeration of Irma, Harvey and Katrina bear down on them. Evolution, Globalism, alien (demonic) invasion, dwindling resources and even atheism are all dependant on this deception. And the ppl are getting destroyed for lack of understanding. All this destruction because they believe science over God.


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    Re: What to you see as the coming "great deception"
    « Reply #47 on: September 05, 2017, 11:08:41 PM »
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  • Women are not permitted to defend the Faith? That is the men's failure that they have to. ZERO Catholic rebuttals from heliocentric men except to complain that they see women are doing some of the heavy lifting. Know this: I'll die before I stop unless the men wake up.
    How many traditional priests and bishops insist that flat-earth (NOT to be confused with geocentrism) is a dogma of the Faith?
    Answer me that and then go make your husband a sammich.

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    Re: What to you see as the coming "great deception"
    « Reply #48 on: September 05, 2017, 11:14:15 PM »
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  • Women are not permitted to defend the Faith? That is the men's failure that they have to. ZERO Catholic rebuttals from heliocentric men except to complain that they see women are doing some of the heavy lifting. Know this: I'll die before I stop unless the men wake up.

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    Re: What to you see as the coming "great deception"
    « Reply #49 on: September 06, 2017, 12:27:27 AM »
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  • I believe in geocentrism.  I believe that NASA has lied to us, as part of a long, long list of govt lies, both in the science and non science realms, and which lies ultimately started in the post-middle ages with Copernicus.  

    What I don't see is the importance placed on flat earth vs globe.  I can count on one hand the # of times I've thought about this "issue" and I'm not going to lose sleep over such a trivial matter.

    The point of the debate should be that 1) science has been hijacked by heretics and is worshipped as a religion by Freemasons 2) science doesn't contradict the Bible or Faith 3) the Bible is both historically and scientifically true.  

    The debate over flat vs globe, while interesting, is not the point. Geocentrism should be the emphasis, because this is first step back towards a true understanding of science.  But even this goal pales in importance to the main goal, which is REDUCING science's importance in the order of learning.  Arguing about flat vs globe is like arguing over the color of dress Our Lady wore when She was assumed into heaven.  It's a distraction.  


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    Re: What to you see as the coming "great deception"
    « Reply #50 on: September 07, 2017, 11:46:11 AM »
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  • I believe in geocentrism.  I believe that NASA has lied to us, as part of a long, long list of govt lies, both in the science and non science realms, and which lies ultimately started in the post-middle ages with Copernicus.  

    What I don't see is the importance placed on flat earth vs globe.  I can count on one hand the # of times I've thought about this "issue" and I'm not going to lose sleep over such a trivial matter.

    The point of the debate should be that 1) science has been hijacked by heretics and is worshipped as a religion by Freemasons 2) science doesn't contradict the Bible or Faith 3) the Bible is both historically and scientifically true.  

    The debate over flat vs globe, while interesting, is not the point. Geocentrism should be the emphasis, because this is first step back towards a true understanding of science.  But even this goal pales in importance to the main goal, which is REDUCING science's importance in the order of learning.  Arguing about flat vs globe is like arguing over the color of dress Our Lady wore when She was assumed into heaven.  It's a distraction.  
    Pax, you make some great points, especially:
    "The point of the debate should be that 1) science has been hijacked by heretics and is worshipped as a religion by Freemasons 2) science doesn't contradict the Bible or Faith 3) the Bible is both historically and scientifically true."
          I think these three points are the primary motivation of proponents of both flat earth theory and geocentric theory. So what differentiates the two perspectives?
          One view has a more respectability in the secular world. One can hold one's head high and not be considered nutty. That secular comfort does not equate with the truth. Sometimes when one holds to the truth, we are mocked. That does not change the truth and should not be a conscious factor in our decision-making process. I think with most geocentricists, the decision is unconscious.
         Both the Bible and the Church Fathers are very clear about denying globe theory. Much of the problem with Bible translations is that the word which meant "circle" was mistranslated as "globe." (It's been a while since I researched this, so I don't remember the word itself-- should be easy to find with some searching -- I don't have time right now due to medical issues.)
         The reason I do not think this issue is a distraction is related to the motivation of the Freemasons who are pushing the pseudo-science taught in school from K to university, and pushed unceasingly in media. Part of their motivation is to unseat God and His creation, and to mock religion as the opposite of their pseudo-science, but there is more to it than that.
         I think the primary motivation of the Freemasons/ Lucifarians is to create the illusion that we here on earth are an insignificant speck in an infinite universe of other solar systems, planetary systems and life forms.
         Is this not the perfect set-up for demons posing as aliens from another planet to infest earth (fake staged "alien" invasion.) Could this be the "coming great deception" about which we have been warned? We know that one ploy of the enemy is "order out of chaos."  It is possible that chaos will be created in order to pave the way for (satanic) order to be restored by the enemy. Might this not be the way in which the enemy, posing as an alien savior from another planet sets himself up to be worshiped in the place of God?
       Please pray for discernment regarding this issue.
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    Re: What to you see as the coming "great deception"
    « Reply #51 on: September 07, 2017, 01:20:18 PM »
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    I think the primary motivation of the Freemasons/ Lucifarians is to create the illusion that we here on earth are an insignificant speck in an infinite universe of other solar systems, planetary systems and life forms.
    Agree.  But this illusion is based on people accepting the heliocentric model.  If one reverts back to the Church's accepted earth-centric model, this illusion falls apart, which is what we want.  One does not need to convince people of a flat earth in order to kill satan's illusion.  Geocentrism alone kills the illusion.

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    Re: What to you see as the coming "great deception"
    « Reply #52 on: September 07, 2017, 02:03:44 PM »
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  • Agree.  But this illusion is based on people accepting the heliocentric model.  If one reverts back to the Church's accepted earth-centric model, this illusion falls apart, which is what we want.  One does not need to convince people of a flat earth in order to kill satan's illusion.  Geocentrism alone kills the illusion.
    No, it does not.
    Which is why you must reject cassini and Sungenis' hybrid geocentrism.
    The earth CANNOT be a celestial body - period.
    The earth cannot be at the center of an otherwise heliocentric model. Why? 
    Because there is no mechanism for day or night, no mechanism for the seasons, and there is no mechanism for (supposed) gravity.
    All three of those things require a non-stationary ball. Gravity, especially.
    That is why you have to go ALL THE WAY back (to God's Word) and reject ALL the lies of godless science. You cannot accept even a little of it.
    You must accept what the Bible describes in total.
    Only on a flat, stationary plane with the sun/moon/stars circuiting above does the model of His Creation work: day, night, seasons, all of it.


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    Re: What to you see as the coming "great deception"
    « Reply #53 on: September 07, 2017, 11:11:22 PM »
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  •  :baby:I'd like to see that blasphemous, sacrilegious video posted by DZ removed. The Sign of the Cross should not be denigrated here, now the holy St Therese ridiculed. Is nothing and nobody sacred?
    Help of Christians, guard our land from assault or inward stain,
    Let it be what God has planned, His new Eden where You reign.

    +RIP 2024

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    Re: What to you see as the coming "great deception"
    « Reply #54 on: September 08, 2017, 01:32:44 AM »
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  • Sorry, baby should not be there. Typing finger went astray. :facepalm:
    Help of Christians, guard our land from assault or inward stain,
    Let it be what God has planned, His new Eden where You reign.

    +RIP 2024

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    Re: What to you see as the coming "great deception"
    « Reply #55 on: September 08, 2017, 01:36:20 AM »
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  • Sorry, baby should not be there. Typing finger went astray. :facepalm:
    It's okay.

    I'd remove it if I could for, best case scenario, it seems evident that it has caused needless distress for which I am sorry, and it is most prudential to err on the side of caution.


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    Re: What to you see as the coming "great deception"
    « Reply #56 on: September 08, 2017, 03:55:30 AM »
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  • Thank you for your polite and thoughtful reply, DZ, and thank you, Mater/Matthew, for removing the video. 
    Help of Christians, guard our land from assault or inward stain,
    Let it be what God has planned, His new Eden where You reign.

    +RIP 2024

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    Re: What to you see as the coming "great deception"
    « Reply #57 on: September 08, 2017, 03:57:20 AM »
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  • Thank you for your polite and thoughtful reply, DZ, and thank you, Mater/Matthew, for removing the video. 
    Likewise miss/ma'am.

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    Re: What to you see as the coming "great deception"
    « Reply #58 on: September 08, 2017, 10:09:46 AM »
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  • I see the flat-earthers have found another thread to spin their nonsense. It seems they are taking over this forum and ruining thread after thread. Let us get back to Cera's OP request.

    Spot on Cera, the appearance of aliens could well be the next 'great deception.' They will of course be devils.
    Perhaps you do not know but a Pope has already condemned such an deception.

    Pope Pius II (1458-1464)
    Errors of Zanini de Solcia

    (1) That the world should be naturally destroyed and ended by the heat of the sun...

    Today, in the news all over the world we hear about Pioneer spacecraft that will outlive the earth that will be destroyed by the heat of the sun. The Pioneer spacecraft is loaded with stories of humanity and will be found by "intelligent life out there, Aliens.

    (3) That God created another world than this one... and that other men and women existed.

    Pope Francis and his Copernican/Galilean/Newtonian/Einsteinian astronomers have begun this deception as you say.
    Francis would have no problem BAPTIZING THEM. Now what is BAPTISM for. Only descendants of Adam and Eve need BAPTISM so does Francis not know that? Or is he going along with the condemned doctrine of other Adams?
    Of course, since God created the flat earth, the flat earth will be heavily endorsed by Catholics' on a Catholic forum; we will never endorse the Freemasonic globe earth deception. :incense:  :applause:

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    Re: What to you see as the coming "great deception"
    « Reply #59 on: September 08, 2017, 03:47:00 PM »
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  • Agree.  But this illusion is based on people accepting the heliocentric model.  If one reverts back to the Church's accepted earth-centric model, this illusion falls apart, which is what we want.  One does not need to convince people of a flat earth in order to kill satan's illusion.  Geocentrism alone kills the illusion.
    I do not understandi"One does not need to convince people of a flat earth."

    Truth is truth. One does not stop at leading people halfway to the truth because the second half is unnecessary. Or because the second half of the truth is "embarrassing" due to the freemasonic/ Nasa/media/ so-called educational system -- which has been so tremendously effective at brainwashing the public to ignore what God says in Genesis.

    Geocentricism's half-way truth does nothing to disentangle people from the lies that lead up to the big lie of alien life forms originating on other planets from other planetary systems from other galaxies.

    So what's the trade-off here? Geocentricists get more social acceptance than flat-earthers. At what cost?

    1.  Ignoring what God says in Genesis about the firmament.

    2.  Failing to protect others from the satanic lie of alien life forms originating on other planets from other planetary systems from other galaxies, therefore . . .

    3.  Failing to protect others from the coming great deception about which the Bible warns us, in which the enemy sets himself up as an alien god from another planet, planetary system and galaxy who seeded life on earth billions of years ago and now needs to be worshiped.
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