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Offline OHCA

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Re: What to you see as the coming "great deception"
« Reply #15 on: September 04, 2017, 04:58:32 AM »
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  • 1. What does THAT have to do with......?

    2. One last chance, how what you sent in any way a RESPONSE to what I asked?
    3. Even if so, so what?

    In short, RELEVANCE?

    I'm seeing a chasm wide divide between what you said was said, and what you've sent as said, get it?
    "I'm seeing a chasm wide divide between what you said was said, and what you've sent as said, get it?"

    It appears to me that she flat out lied.  Even if that truly is her interpretation of what was said, she oversold what was actually said and thereby lied.  She has spammed this subforum with her endless nonsense in several threads.

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    Re: What to you see as the coming "great deception"
    « Reply #16 on: September 04, 2017, 05:08:46 AM »
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  • "I'm seeing a chasm wide divide between what you said was said, and what you've sent as said, get it?"

    It appears to me that she flat out lied.  

       Maybe. All of us can get sold on some idea, and see what we wish. It's a crazy world. I'm really trying here. At the very least there's a huge disconnect almost everywhere. I get it though. It's scary out there. It's all fractured.

    Even if that truly is her interpretation of what was said, she oversold what was actually said and thereby lied.

      Still a "maybe"

     She has spammed this subforum with her endless nonsense in several threads.

       If this is a case of an LoT, i.e.  it is the SAME nonsense, then THAT establishes your point. Once can be a goof. Twice a gaffe, but three times or more? Somebody is playing fast and loose with facts and truth. I really do try to hear people out, but when things start sideways, they never straighten out.


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    Re: What to you see as the coming "great deception"
    « Reply #17 on: September 04, 2017, 05:47:05 AM »
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  • The great deception is that frozen yogurt is similar to ice cream.
    LOL

    Thankfully I swallowed my sip of coffee just before I read this ha ha ha!
    "But Peter and the apostles answering, said: We ought to obey God, rather than men." - Acts 5:29

    The Highest Principle in the Church: "We are first of all under obedience to God, and only then under obedience to man" - Fr. Hesse

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    Re: What to you see as the coming "great deception"
    « Reply #18 on: September 04, 2017, 09:19:16 AM »
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  • Look man, I spent ~decade living or dying by navigation, shooting telling how long till night by my fingers,  keeping the wrong folks from getting killed so that we could all kill the right ones etc. etc...

    Go peddle it to somehow who'll buy it or, better yet, brush up on some basic Scholastic Philosophy, or at LEAST some rudimentary Crit-think. (here, field expedient block of training for you. Two  basic questions. "So what?" and "would you please be more specific?" Master those, or at least make them a habit where applicable, and the rest grows on. You're welcome.)

    Then, AFTER you've re/learned the CATHOLIC way to think, try a bit of the Trivium and Quadrivium, or just crack a basic (Catholic) science book.

    Peddle your wares as you like. It's on you, but "don't start nothin', won't be nothing." keep that  naked assertion, IRRATIONAL and so ANTI-CATHOLIC trash away from me and off my posts.

    Just "sayin' stuff" is just that. Put some bite behind that bark or stop yapping.

    out.
    I'm still not convinced English is your first language.
    You write with the eloquence of an inner city gang banger with a sixth grade reading level.
    Touched a nerve, eh? Seems you are clearly in the totally deceived ball earth group. Carry on in your willful blindness and ignore what your eyes and senses show you. Stick with the "world" in your comfortable esteem where everyone is sure you are sane.

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    Re: What to you see as the coming "great deception"
    « Reply #19 on: September 04, 2017, 09:30:08 AM »
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  • Anne Catherine Emmerich:
    "(Hom) was of a large stature like a giant, and of a very serious, peculiar turn of mind.  He wore a long robe, he was like a priest.  He used to go alone to the summit of the mountain and there spend night after night.  He observed the stars and practiced magic.  He was taught by the devil to arrange what he saw in vision into a science, a religion, and thereby he vitiated and counteracted the teaching of Enoch. The evil inclinations inherited from his mother mingled in him with the pure hereditary teachings of Enoch and Noe to which the children Thubal clung. Hom, by his false visions and revelations misinterpreted and changed the ancient truth. He studied and pondered and watched the stars and had visions which, by Satan's agency, showed him deformed images of truth. Through their resemblance to truth, his doctrine and idolatry became the mothers of heresy."

    Anne Catherine Emmerich, Life of Jesus Christ, page 48 Book 1


    Very interesting quote.
    Seems clear to me. Hom was practicing the dark arts, not worshipping the True God, and the devil gave him false revelations to pervert the teachings, which he spread over the world.
    Don't know why DZ doesn't get it.



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    Re: What to you see as the coming "great deception"
    « Reply #21 on: September 04, 2017, 09:44:17 AM »
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  • Any ideas? Not only what the "great deception" will be, but how the enemy will benefit from this deception.
    Which ones? There will be many, both great and small, in and outside of the Church.  The supernatural battle continues and deception has always been a favored tool of the Dark powers of the Air.

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    Re: What to you see as the coming "great deception"
    « Reply #23 on: September 04, 2017, 09:52:34 AM »
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  • This obsession of some about the shape of the earth itself is demonic.  

    There is nothing Catholic about it and it is a great distraction from the things you should be concerned about.

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    Re: What to you see as the coming "great deception"
    « Reply #24 on: September 04, 2017, 12:47:10 PM »
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  • The coming great deception about which we have been warned is made even more significant by the warning that "were it possible, even the elect will be deceived."

    What has been the goal of the enemy from the beginning?

    In Isiah 13 we read:
    12] How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, who didst rise in the morning? how art thou fallen to the earth, that didst wound the nations?
     Quomodo cecidisti de caelo, Lucifer, qui mane oriebaris? corruisti in terram, qui vulnerabas gentes?
    [13] And thou saidst in thy heart: I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God, I will sit in the mountain of the covenant, in the sides of the north.
     Qui dicebas in corde tuo : In caelum conscendam, super astra Dei exaltabo solium meum; sedebo in monte testamenti, in lateribus aquilonis;
    [14] I will ascend above the height of the clouds, I will be like the most High.
     ascendam super altitudinem nubium, similis ero Altissimo?

    The enemy's goal is to be worshipped as if he is God. That would surely rank as a "great deception." How might the enemy engineer the world system to make himself appear to be God?

    My best guess is that a fake staged "alien" invasion with the good-cops-bad-cops ploy being played out as good-aliens-bad-aliens in order to create the chaos that will then be "resolved" by the alien antichrist/ satan.

    What is astonishing about this possibility is that we see "Pope" Francis and also two vatican astronomers who have written a book, adressing the "baptism" of "aliens."

    This is from http://www.thedailybeast.com/pope-francis-asked-would-you-baptize-an-alien-heres-the-answer

    The book ends on the question of extraterrestrial life and whether or not the Catholic Church would baptize aliens, which, according to Consolmango, it would, “if she asked.” Pope Francis first posed the alien question in May during a sermon on acceptance in which he said the Church should not be so judgmental. “If—for example—tomorrow an expedition of Martians came, and some of them came to us, here... Martians, right? Green, with that long nose and big ears, just like children paint them... And one says, ‘But I want to be baptized!’ What would happen?” he asked parishioners. “When the Lord shows us the way, who are we to say, ‘No, Lord, it is not prudent! No, let’s do it this way...’”

    The truth is that so-called aliens are actually demons. So we have this "Pope" and two Jesuit astronomers subtly suggesting that in the event of (what I consider to be a fake, staged) alien invasion, these visitors, not from another planet but from another dimension, will be worthy to be baptized? Isn't such a suggestion disgusting?

    For centuries, we have been set up to believe that there is life on other planets, all as part of the coming "great deception" which will fool many.
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    Re: What to you see as the coming "great deception"
    « Reply #25 on: September 04, 2017, 01:00:52 PM »
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  • This obsession of some about the shape of the earth itself is demonic.  

    There is nothing Catholic about it and it is a great distraction from the things you should be concerned about.
    The problem with this position is that it does not even remotely consider that the teachings on the shape of the earth come from God Himself in scripture (further expounded upon by Fathers and saints, and along with the popular pagan model from which it came was condemned by the Church). As such, contradictory teachings would be heresy.  Further, if earth is as the aforesaid Catholics and scripture teach, and enough evidence to the fact has been posted over and over in these pages, the vast majority of mankind believes an error against the teachings of scripture, so we have at the very least, "a" Great Deception.  Prove please, with quotes, teachings, writings, science, math, reason, and authority that your position is not erroneous, or at least, present your case.  Naysaying is devoid of substance and is summarily dismissed.


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    Re: What to you see as the coming "great deception"
    « Reply #26 on: September 04, 2017, 01:13:16 PM »
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  • Which ones? There will be many, both great and small, in and outside of the Church.  The supernatural battle continues and deception has always been a favored tool of the Dark powers of the Air.
    True, there already are many deceptions.  But the with the vast majority of men on earth fully immersed in a pagan teaching already formally condemned by the Church, heliocentrism, which is a demonic re creation of the world, a new creation made in Satan's image, born of devil worship early on, and as Anne Catherine Emmerich suggests, "the mothers of heresy" it must be a very great deception indeed.  Scripture starts with "In the beginning" and proceeds to explain God's creation.  If men believe the opposite of what is proposed at the beginning, they are at odds with God "from the beginning".  It was an answer to the question posed in this thread.  

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    Re: What to you see as the coming "great deception"
    « Reply #27 on: September 04, 2017, 01:52:00 PM »
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  • 1. What does THAT have to do with......?

    2. One last chance, how what you sent in any way a RESPONSE to what I asked?
    3. Even if so, so what?

    In short, RELEVANCE?

    I'm seeing a chasm wide divide between what you said was said, and what you've sent as said, get it?
    You asked what Anne Catherine said.  I quoted her for you.  She reveals Hom's false cosmogony, a twisted science in defiance of Enoch's teachings (Enoch being one of the most recognized flat earthers who walked with God in the heavens) and according to Anne Catherine, Hom was the instigator of a false science (heliocentrism*) that became a religion influenced by worship of Satan and the stars.  Hom's belief about cosmography became the mother of heresy. Because the Church has OFFICIALLY condemned heliocentrism* and always supported geocentrism, and since ball earth is irreparably balled up with heliocentrism, you have relevance.  

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    Re: What to you see as the coming "great deception"
    « Reply #28 on: September 04, 2017, 01:55:45 PM »
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  • "I'm seeing a chasm wide divide between what you said was said, and what you've sent as said, get it?"

    It appears to me that she flat out lied.  Even if that truly is her interpretation of what was said, she oversold what was actually said and thereby lied.  She has spammed this subforum with her endless nonsense in several threads.
    I explained the relevance of what I said specifically above, in my last post to DZ.  Please refrain from saying I lied until you fully understand.  If you don't, ask questions.  

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    Re: What to you see as the coming "great deception"
    « Reply #29 on: September 04, 2017, 04:50:14 PM »
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  • I'm still not convinced English is your first language.
    You write with the eloquence of an inner city gang banger with a sixth grade reading level.
    Touched a nerve, eh? Seems you are clearly in the totally deceived ball earth group. Carry on in your willful blindness and ignore what your eyes and senses show you. Stick with the "world" in your comfortable esteem where everyone is sure you are sane.
    I'm still not convinced you're aware that in the big boy world if you write a check, someone WILL cash it.

    I apologize for apologizing to you miss.

    You're an idiot, a liar, or both.

    out.