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What to you see as the coming "great deception"
« on: September 03, 2017, 03:04:15 PM »
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  • Any ideas? Not only what the "great deception" will be, but how the enemy will benefit from this deception.
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    Re: What to you see as the coming "great deception"
    « Reply #1 on: September 03, 2017, 03:07:29 PM »
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  • That a passel of apostates are Catholic hierarchs. Probably just the tip of the iceberg.


    While it surely isn't over, to say that it is "coming" is perhaps not the right word.

    You?
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    Re: What to you see as the coming "great deception"
    « Reply #2 on: September 03, 2017, 03:16:13 PM »
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  • To be fair, the question comes to mind, "If you are aware of it, just how great is it really?" 

    Then again, it isn't over. Just perhaps a danger of presumption there. Just because we're in the race, doesn't mean we'll finish. Even if we stand now, doesn't mean we'll not fall later. 

    It is said to be so great that even the elect would be deceived. 

    Definitely some possible built in "big head" in questions like that.
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    Re: What to you see as the coming "great deception"
    « Reply #3 on: September 03, 2017, 03:37:28 PM »
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  • I do believe we all have our personal deceptions however when you are young you can't see it.  If you live long enough and turn your trust to the Sacred Heart of Jesus there will come a time that it will be so clear, your deception that is!

    Mine I will confess there was a time in my life that I truly believe that God was changing His will to suit mine.  I told myself that God was so good he wanted me to do this or that, he understood my needs.  Then as the years floated by I came to realize through much prayers and many rosaries that my deception was to actually believe that instead of changing my life to do the Will of God, I believe He was making an exception in my case, that it was okay, wrong for others but not for me. 

    The devil is very clever that way! 

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    Re: What to you see as the coming "great deception"
    « Reply #4 on: September 03, 2017, 07:46:11 PM »
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  • The greatest deception?

    That the earth is a ball. It's universal.

    The next greatest deception?

    The operation of error, to believe the lying MSM that being gαy and trans is okey dokey. That one is scarily close to being universal. Shortly after I expect Jesus to return with His flamethrower to erase this place.


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    Re: What to you see as the coming "great deception"
    « Reply #5 on: September 03, 2017, 08:10:35 PM »
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  • The great deception is that frozen yogurt is similar to ice cream.

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    Re: What to you see as the coming "great deception"
    « Reply #6 on: September 03, 2017, 08:27:23 PM »
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    What to you see as the coming "great deception" 

    Coming? It's come and gone... look in the rear view mirror to most of the past twentieth century. 

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    but how the enemy will benefit from this deception.

    Again, need to look at it in the past tense... the enemy has benefited by leading MOST souls to Hell.

    Don't get me wrong though, it's all still in full swing and probably going to be this way for a while. 

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    Re: What to you see as the coming "great deception"
    « Reply #7 on: September 03, 2017, 09:10:55 PM »
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  • It is said to be so great that even the elect would be deceived.


    Ball earth definitely fits that requirement.


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    Re: What to you see as the coming "great deception"
    « Reply #8 on: September 03, 2017, 09:29:17 PM »
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  • Ball earth definitely fits that requirement.
    Look man, I spent ~decade living or dying by navigation, shooting telling how long till night by my fingers,  keeping the wrong folks from getting killed so that we could all kill the right ones etc. etc...

    Go peddle it to somehow who'll buy it or, better yet, brush up on some basic Scholastic Philosophy, or at LEAST some rudimentary Crit-think. (here, field expedient block of training for you. Two  basic questions. "So what?" and "would you please be more specific?" Master those, or at least make them a habit where applicable, and the rest grows on. You're welcome.)

    Then, AFTER you've re/learned the CATHOLIC way to think, try a bit of the Trivium and Quadrivium, or just crack a basic (Catholic) science book.

    Peddle your wares as you like. It's on you, but "don't start nothin', won't be nothing." keep that  naked assertion, IRRATIONAL and so ANTI-CATHOLIC trash away from me and off my posts. 

    Just "sayin' stuff" is just that. Put some bite behind that bark or stop yapping.

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    Re: What to you see as the coming "great deception"
    « Reply #9 on: September 03, 2017, 11:22:06 PM »
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  • Look man, I spent ~decade living or dying by navigation, shooting telling how long till night by my fingers,  keeping the wrong folks from getting killed so that we could all kill the right ones etc. etc...

    Go peddle it to somehow who'll buy it or, better yet, brush up on some basic Scholastic Philosophy, or at LEAST some rudimentary Crit-think. (here, field expedient block of training for you. Two  basic questions. "So what?" and "would you please be more specific?" Master those, or at least make them a habit where applicable, and the rest grows on. You're welcome.)

    Then, AFTER you've re/learned the CATHOLIC way to think, try a bit of the Trivium and Quadrivium, or just crack a basic (Catholic) science book.

    Peddle your wares as you like. It's on you, but "don't start nothin', won't be nothing." keep that  naked assertion, IRRATIONAL and so ANTI-CATHOLIC trash away from me and off my posts.

    Just "sayin' stuff" is just that. Put some bite behind that bark or stop yapping.

    out.
    Anne Catherine Emmerich says the heliocentric pagan cosmology is "the mothers of all heresy".  Her assessment of the re creation of earth by Satan to enslave all has reached its fulfillment because everyone believes earth is a spinning, whirling ball...against all reason, experience and true science as if scientism were the people's religion to the point they deny scripture and the Church and attribute to nothing what belongs to God. Excellent, Tradplorable! Heliocentric ball earth has all the characteristics of the Great Deception.

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    Re: What to you see as the coming "great deception"
    « Reply #10 on: September 03, 2017, 11:35:33 PM »
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  • Anne Catherine Emmerich says the heliocentric pagan cosmology is "the mothers of all heresy".  Her assessment of the re creation of earth by Satan to enslave all has reached its fulfillment because everyone believes earth is a spinning, whirling ball...against all reason, experience and true science as if scientism were the people's religion to the point they deny scripture and the Church and attribute to nothing what belongs to God. Excellent, Tradplorable! Heliocentric ball earth has all the characteristics of the Great Deception.
    1. Not a Heliocentrist miss/ma'am.

    2. specify pls. rea; Emmerich. Even by your own recounting, you are making an error on the face of it.

    3. Does the CHURCH teach this? What you allege her to have said?  If so, again, specify.

    Non response to prior will merit and receive same.
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    Re: What to you see as the coming "great deception"
    « Reply #11 on: September 04, 2017, 12:51:23 AM »
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  • 1. Not a Heliocentrist miss/ma'am.

    2. specify pls. rea; Emmerich. Even by your own recounting, you are making an error on the face of it.

    3. Does the CHURCH teach this? What you allege her to have said?  If so, again, specify.

    Non response to prior will merit and receive same.
    Anne Catherine Emmerich:
    "(Hom) was of a large stature like a giant, and of a very serious, peculiar turn of mind.  He wore a long robe, he was like a priest.  He used to go alone to the summit of the mountain and there spend night after night.  He observed the stars and practiced magic.  He was taught by the devil to arrange what he saw in vision into a science, a religion, and thereby he vitiated and counteracted the teaching of Enoch. The evil inclinations inherited from his mother mingled in him with the pure hereditary teachings of Enoch and Noe to which the children Thubal clung. Hom, by his false visions and revelations misinterpreted and changed the ancient truth. He studied and pondered and watched the stars and had visions which, by Satan's agency, showed him deformed images of truth. Through their resemblance to truth, his doctrine and idolatry became the mothers of heresy."
    Anne Catherine Emmerich Life of Jesus Christ, page 48 Book 1

    St. Nilus also explains that science will "go off the right path"...

    The Prophecy of St. Nilus
    After the year 1900, toward the middle of the 20th century, the people of that time will become unrecognizable. When the time for the Advent of the Antichrist approaches, people's minds will grow cloudy from carnal passions, and dishonor and lawlessness will grow stronger. Then the world will become unrecognizable. People's appearances will change, and it will be impossible to distinguish men from women due to their shamelessness in dress and style of hair. These people will be cruel and will be like wild animals because of the temptations of the Antichrist. There will be no respect for parents and elders, love will disappear, and Christian pastors, bishops, and priests will become vain men, completely failing to distinguish the right-hand way from the left. At that time the morals and traditions of Christians and of the Church will change. People will abandon modesty, and dissipation will reign. Falsehood and greed will attain great proportions, and woe to those who pile up treasures. Lust, adultery, ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity, secret deeds and murder will rule in society. At that future time, due to the power of such great crimes and licentiousness, people will be deprived of the grace of the Holy Spirit, which they received in Holy Baptism and equally of remorse.

    The Churches of God will be deprived of God-fearing and pious pastors, and woe to the Christians remaining in the world at that time; they will completely lose their faith because they will lack the opportunity of seeing the light of knowledge from anyone at all. Then they will separate themselves out of the world in holy refuges in search of lightening their spiritual sufferings, but everywhere they will meet obstacles and constraints. And all this will result from the fact that the Antichrist wants to be Lord over everything and become the ruler of the whole universe, and he will produce miracles and fantastic signs. He will also give depraved wisdom to an unhappy man so that he will discover a way by which one man can carry on a conversation with another from one end of the earth to the other. At that time men will also fly through the air like birds and descend to the bottom of the sea like fish. And when they have achieved all this, these unhappy people will spend their lives in comfort without knowing, poor souls, that it is deceit of the Antichrist. And, the impious one! -- he will so complete science with vanity that it will go off the right path and lead people to lose faith in the existence of God in three hypostases.

    Then the All-good God will see the downfall of the human race and will shorten the days for the sake of those few who are being saved, because the enemy wants to lead even the chosen into temptation, if that is possible... then the sword of chastisement will suddenly appear and kill the perverter and his servants.


    The Church does not specifically teach the above, but the saints here warn of the problems with the current accepted model which defies scripture using false teachings the Church long ago condemned.

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    Re: What to you see as the coming "great deception"
    « Reply #12 on: September 04, 2017, 01:18:12 AM »
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  • 1. What does THAT have to do with...
    Anne Catherine Emmerich says the heliocentric pagan cosmology is "the mothers of all heresy".  Her assessment of the re creation of earth by Satan to enslave all has reached its fulfillment because everyone believes earth is a spinning, whirling ball...against all reason, experience and true science as if scientism were the people's religion to the point they deny scripture and the Church and attribute to nothing what belongs to God. Excellent, Tradplorable! Heliocentric ball earth has all the characteristics of the Great Deception.
    ...?

    2. One last chance, how what you sent in any way a RESPONSE to what I asked?
    3. Even if so, so what? 

    In short, RELEVANCE?

    I'm seeing a chasm wide divide between what you said was said, and what you've sent as said, get it?
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    Re: What to you see as the coming "great deception"
    « Reply #13 on: September 04, 2017, 01:21:08 AM »
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  • Anne Catherine Emmerich:
    "(Hom) was of a large stature like a giant, and of a very serious, peculiar turn of mind.  He wore a long robe, he was like a priest.  He used to go alone to the summit of the mountain and there spend night after night.  He observed the stars and practiced magic.  He was taught by the devil to arrange what he saw in vision into a science, a religion, and thereby he vitiated and counteracted the teaching of Enoch. The evil inclinations inherited from his mother mingled in him with the pure hereditary teachings of Enoch and Noe to which the children Thubal clung. Hom, by his false visions and revelations misinterpreted and changed the ancient truth. He studied and pondered and watched the stars and had visions which, by Satan's agency, showed him deformed images of truth. Through their resemblance to truth, his doctrine and idolatry became the mothers of heresy."
    Anne Catherine Emmerich Life of Jesus Christ, page 48 Book 1

    St. Nilus also explains that science will "go off the right path"...

    The Prophecy of St. Nilus
    After the year 1900, toward the middle of the 20th century, the people of that time will become unrecognizable. When the time for the Advent of the Antichrist approaches, people's minds will grow cloudy from carnal passions, and dishonor and lawlessness will grow stronger. Then the world will become unrecognizable. People's appearances will change, and it will be impossible to distinguish men from women due to their shamelessness in dress and style of hair. These people will be cruel and will be like wild animals because of the temptations of the Antichrist. There will be no respect for parents and elders, love will disappear, and Christian pastors, bishops, and priests will become vain men, completely failing to distinguish the right-hand way from the left. At that time the morals and traditions of Christians and of the Church will change. People will abandon modesty, and dissipation will reign. Falsehood and greed will attain great proportions, and woe to those who pile up treasures. Lust, adultery, ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity, secret deeds and murder will rule in society. At that future time, due to the power of such great crimes and licentiousness, people will be deprived of the grace of the Holy Spirit, which they received in Holy Baptism and equally of remorse.

    The Churches of God will be deprived of God-fearing and pious pastors, and woe to the Christians remaining in the world at that time; they will completely lose their faith because they will lack the opportunity of seeing the light of knowledge from anyone at all. Then they will separate themselves out of the world in holy refuges in search of lightening their spiritual sufferings, but everywhere they will meet obstacles and constraints. And all this will result from the fact that the Antichrist wants to be Lord over everything and become the ruler of the whole universe, and he will produce miracles and fantastic signs. He will also give depraved wisdom to an unhappy man so that he will discover a way by which one man can carry on a conversation with another from one end of the earth to the other. At that time men will also fly through the air like birds and descend to the bottom of the sea like fish. And when they have achieved all this, these unhappy people will spend their lives in comfort without knowing, poor souls, that it is deceit of the Antichrist. And, the impious one! -- he will so complete science with vanity that it will go off the right path and lead people to lose faith in the existence of God in three hypostases.

    Then the All-good God will see the downfall of the human race and will shorten the days for the sake of those few who are being saved, because the enemy wants to lead even the chosen into temptation, if that is possible... then the sword of chastisement will suddenly appear and kill the perverter and his servants.


    The Church does not specifically teach the above, but the saints here warn of the problems with the current accepted model which defies scripture using false teachings the Church long ago condemned.

    Is a response to ....

    Quote from: DZ PLEASE on Mon Sep 04 2017 00:35:33 GMT-0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)
    1. Not a Heliocentrist miss/ma'am.

    2. specify pls. rea; Emmerich. Even by your own recounting, you are making an error on the face of it.

    3. Does the CHURCH teach this? What you allege her to have said?  If so, again, specify.

    Non response to prior will merit and receive same.


    ...how? Thanks for #3. The Church doesn't. thanks. That was clear at least.
    "Lord, have mercy".

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    Re: What to you see as the coming "great deception"
    « Reply #14 on: September 04, 2017, 01:47:22 AM »
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  • Ball earth definitely fits that requirement.
    PS, if you're a girl, then that was  a bit rough and I apologize.

    If not, you're fortunate.
    "Lord, have mercy".