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Offline LeDeg

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Re: What to make of this nαzι reference?
« Reply #15 on: February 23, 2018, 12:00:03 PM »
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    • Quote from: poche on February 22, 2018, 11:56:59 PM
    They were there because of the anti Catholic nature of the National Socialist movement.
    If they were anti-Catholic, then why did the NSDAP allow the clergy continue to administer the Sacraments until the very end? Why did the Church honor Hitler after the war with Requiem Masses?
    You really are dishonest when you continue to dodge the fact that Communist's were in the clerical ranks of the Church and the pedophilia was already rearing it's head pre-war Germany. Shame on you.  
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    Re: What to make of this nαzι reference?
    « Reply #16 on: February 23, 2018, 11:48:38 PM »
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    • Quote from: LeDeg on February 23, 2018, 12:00:03 PM
    If they were anti-Catholic, then why did the NSDAP allow the clergy continue to administer the Sacraments until the very end? Why did the Church honor Hitler after the war with Requiem Masses?
    You really are dishonest when you continue to dodge the fact that Communist's were in the clerical ranks of the Church and the pedophilia was already rearing it's head pre-war Germany. Shame on you.  
    That the NSDAP tolerated the clergy doesn't alter the anti-Catholic nature of the party. We live in a country that is dominated by free masons and they allow the clergy to administer the sacraments here also.  
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    Re: What to make of this nαzι reference?
    « Reply #17 on: February 24, 2018, 03:23:07 AM »
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    • Quote from: poche on February 23, 2018, 11:48:38 PM
    That the NSDAP tolerated the clergy doesn't alter the anti-Catholic nature of the party. We live in a country that is dominated by free masons and they allow the clergy to administer the sacraments here also.  
    Sure...
    Not only did they "tolerate" Catholicism. They fomented it.
    Granted, Hitler wasn't dealt the same cards as Franco was with Spain being 100% Catholic. 
    However Adolph did the best he could under the circuмstances to join Catholics and Lutherans under the Christian banner.
    But make no mistake Catholics fighting for Germany, at the height of the war, were the majority (Thanks to the volunteers).
    Catholic Chaplains were always more in numbers than the protestant chaplains. 550+ Catholics, while the protestants were in the 300's.
     


    SS-Waffen Mass.

    Eastern Catholic procession.



    Mons. Josef Tiso (President of Slovakia). 



    Poche, as always, either you are a Judaic, NO shill. Or you don't know  what the heck you're talking about.
    Advice from Mark Twain:
    “It's better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than open it and remove all doubt”.
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    Re: What to make of this nαzι reference?
    « Reply #18 on: February 24, 2018, 05:50:05 AM »
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    • Quote from: GottmitunsAlex on February 24, 2018, 03:23:07 AM
    Sure...
    Not only did they "tolerate" Catholicism. They fomented it.
    Granted, Hitler wasn't dealt the same cards as Franco was with Spain being 100% Catholic.
    However Adolph did the best he could under the circuмstances to join Catholics and Lutherans under the Christian banner.
    But make no mistake Catholics fighting for Germany, at the height of the war, were the majority (Thanks to the volunteers).
    Catholic Chaplains were always more in numbers than the protestant chaplains. 550+ Catholics, while the protestants were in the 300's.
     


    SS-Waffen Mass.

    Eastern Catholic procession.



    Mons. Josef Tiso (President of Slovakia).



    Poche, as always, either you are a Judaic, NO shill. Or you don't know  what the heck you're talking about.
    Advice from Mark Twain:
    “It's better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than open it and remove all doubt”.
    That must be why they were condemned by Pope Pius XI in Mit Brennender Sorge.
    http://w2.vatican.va/content/pius-xi/en/encyclicals/docuмents/hf_p-xi_enc_14031937_mit-brennender-sorge.html
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    Re: What to make of this nαzι reference?
    « Reply #19 on: February 24, 2018, 01:07:38 PM »
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    • Quote from: poche on February 24, 2018, 05:50:05 AM
    That must be why they were condemned by Pope Pius XI in Mit Brennender Sorge.
    http://w2.vatican.va/content/pius-xi/en/encyclicals/docuмents/hf_p-xi_enc_14031937_mit-brennender-sorge.html
    You really are a broken record. Are you claiming infallibility on this? 
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    Re: What to make of this nαzι reference?
    « Reply #20 on: February 24, 2018, 03:10:57 PM »
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    • I must have missed the excommunication declarations.


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    Re: What to make of this nαzι reference?
    « Reply #21 on: February 24, 2018, 10:58:59 PM »
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    • Quote from: LeDeg on February 24, 2018, 01:07:38 PM
    You really are a broken record. Are you claiming infallibility on this?
    I am simply stating what Pope Pius said in regard to the National Socialists in Germany.
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    Re: What to make of this nαzι reference?
    « Reply #22 on: February 24, 2018, 11:19:44 PM »
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    Re: What to make of this nαzι reference?
    « Reply #23 on: February 25, 2018, 01:17:11 PM »
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    • Quote from: poche on February 24, 2018, 10:58:59 PM
    I am simply stating what Pope Pius said in regard to the National Socialists in Germany.
    You're dodging the question. Is the pope infallible in this?
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    Re: What to make of this nαzι reference?
    « Reply #24 on: February 26, 2018, 03:18:00 AM »
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    • Quote from: LeDeg on February 25, 2018, 01:17:11 PM
    You're dodging the question. Is the pope infallible in this?
    I think that the National Socialist policies bears out the truth of the Pope's condemnation. 
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    Re: What to make of this nαzι reference?
    « Reply #25 on: February 27, 2018, 04:18:12 PM »
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    • Quote from: poche on February 26, 2018, 03:18:00 AM
    I think that the National Socialist policies bears out the truth of the Pope's condemnation.
    I think the subversive, dishonest and pedophile clerics bears out the Reich's actions.


    Try answering the damn question. Infallible or not?
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    Re: What to make of this nαzι reference?
    « Reply #26 on: February 28, 2018, 02:13:17 AM »
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    • Quote from: LeDeg on February 27, 2018, 04:18:12 PM
    I think the subversive, dishonest and pedophile clerics bears out the Reich's actions.


    Try answering the damn question. Infallible or not?
    I think that those accusations were pretexts rather than based on the truth. It was not unheard of for the National Socialists and the Communists to get enough young men drunk and coerce them into signing an accusation. 
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    Re: What to make of this nαzι reference?
    « Reply #27 on: February 28, 2018, 03:07:40 AM »
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    Re: What to make of this nαzι reference?
    « Reply #28 on: February 28, 2018, 03:23:27 PM »
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    • Quote from: poche on February 28, 2018, 02:13:17 AM
    I think that those accusations were pretexts rather than based on the truth. It was not unheard of for the National Socialists and the Communists to get enough young men drunk and coerce them into signing an accusation.
    So Bella Dodd was a liar? The Communist clergy at Vatican II just appeared out of thin air?

    There were no pedophiles in the Church before or during the war?


    Yes or no. Are you claiming infallibility on Mit Brennender Sorge?
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    Re: What to make of this nαzι reference?
    « Reply #29 on: February 28, 2018, 03:41:52 PM »
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    • Quote from: GottmitunsAlex on February 24, 2018, 03:23:07 AM
    Sure...
    Not only did they "tolerate" Catholicism. They fomented it.
    Granted, Hitler wasn't dealt the same cards as Franco was with Spain being 100% Catholic.
    Nevermind the fact that Germany, along with Italy and Portugal, were the only Nations in the world to support Franco, both financially and militarily in the Spanish cινιℓ ωαr. 
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