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Offline gladius_veritatis

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Re: What to make of Alois Irlmaier
« Reply #15 on: October 21, 2025, 04:12:07 PM »
I came across an interesting passage in Jone the other day about the general rules of the Index of Forbidden Books. There are general categories of various types of books that are automatically on the list even without being listed, and one of the categories was "books that publish new apparitions, revelations or devotions".

What purported apparition, revelation or devotion is involved?

Do you believe the works of men like Yves duPont -- https://www.marianland.com/tan0414/0105.html -- are, therefore, published and disseminated in violation of this rule?  Has every single outlet throughout Traddieland been violating this rule all these years? 

Is it possible you are misunderstanding and, therefore, incorrectly applying said rule to this topic?

Offline Yeti

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Re: What to make of Alois Irlmaier
« Reply #16 on: October 21, 2025, 06:04:07 PM »
Let's see. This is based on Canon 1398 of the 1917 code of canon law. Here is the canon in full:



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Canon 1398 (NA)
§ 1. The prohibition of books brings it about that the book cannot be published, read, retained,
sold, translated into another language, or in any other way communicated to others without
necessary permission.
§ 2. A book that in any manner is prohibited cannot once again be brought out unless, the
corrections having been made, permission is given by him who prohibited the book, or by his
Superior or successor.
Canon 139916 (NA) Cross-Ref.: 1917 CIC 1400
By the law, [the following] are prohibited:
1.° Original text editions or ancient versions of Catholic sacred Scripture, even of the
Oriental Church, published by any non-Catholic; and likewise versions [of these], in
any language, by these [same sort] prepared or published;
2.° Books of any writers propagating heresy or schism, or attacking in any way the basis
of religion;
3.° Books by design striking against religion and good morals;
4.° Books by any non-Catholics treating purposely of religion, unless it can be shown
that nothing contained in them is contrary to the Catholic faith;
5.° Books mentioned in Canon 1385, § 1, n. 1, and Canon 1391; likewise all those
mentioned in the cited Canon 1385, § 1, n. 2, [and] books and booklets that describe
new apparitions, revelations, visions, prophecies, and miracles, or that lead to new
devotions, even under the pretext of being private, if they have not been published
in accord with the prescriptions of the canons;
6.° Books attacking or deriding any Catholic dogma, or protecting errors proscribed by
the Holy See, or detracting from divine cult, or arguing for the avoidance of
ecclesiastical discipline, or bringing about opprobrium on religion or the clerical
state;
7.° Books that teach or recommend superstition in general, sorcery, divination, magic,
evoking of spirits, and other things of this sort;
8.° Books that argue the liceity of dueling, ѕυιcιdє, or divorce, and those that in
discussing masonic sects and other societies of this sort argue that they are useful
and not pernicious to the Church and civil society;
9.° Books that purposely describe, teach, or treat lascivious or obscene materials;
10.° Editions of liturgical books approved by the Apostolic See in which there have been
any changes so that they are not consistent with the authentic editions approved by
the Holy See;
11.° Books that give out apocryphal indulgences or [ones] proscribed or revoked by the
Holy See;
12.° Any images or impressions of Our Lord Jesus Christ, of the Blessed Virgin Mary, of
the Angels and Saints or other Servants of God, alien to the sense and decrees of the
Church.


The section I am referring to is subsection 5 (emphasis mine):


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5.° Books mentioned in Canon 1385, § 1, n. 1, and Canon 1391; likewise all those
mentioned in the cited Canon 1385, § 1, n. 2, [and] books and booklets that describe
new apparitions, revelations, visions, prophecies, and miracles, or that lead to new
devotions, even under the pretext of being private, if they have not been published
in accord with the prescriptions of the canons;


And the effect on such a book is that it:


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cannot be published, read, retained, sold, translated into another language, or in any other way communicated to others without necessary permission.



Offline Yeti

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Re: What to make of Alois Irlmaier
« Reply #17 on: October 21, 2025, 06:10:47 PM »
What purported apparition, revelation or devotion is involved?
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Please read the OP in this thread.

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Do you believe the works of men like Yves duPont -- https://www.marianland.com/tan0414/0105.html -- are, therefore, published and disseminated in violation of this rule?  Has every single outlet throughout Traddieland been violating this rule all these years? 

"Traddieland" is a denigratory term for the Catholic Church. You should be ashamed.

And no, most traditional Catholic outlets do not publish unapproved apparitions or revelations.

Offline Pax Vobis

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Re: What to make of Alois Irlmaier
« Reply #18 on: October 21, 2025, 06:14:18 PM »
:facepalm:  Alois' prophecies are of a political nature.  Has nothing to do with catholicism, or religion in general.  Take it or leave it.

You guys get bent out of shape if some dude 50 years ago had prophecies about ww3, but you don't bat an eyelash about taking "predictions" from stock brokers or businessman.  There's really no difference.  :facepalm:

Offline Pax Vobis

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Re: What to make of Alois Irlmaier
« Reply #19 on: October 21, 2025, 06:15:49 PM »
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Please read the OP in this thread.

"Traddieland" is a denigratory term for the Catholic Church. You should be ashamed.

And no, most traditional Catholic outlets do not publish unapproved apparitions or revelations.
Most of the prophecis in Yves Dupont's book are from Centuries ago...from famous saints/holy persons.  Yves Dupont is not a mystic or a seer.