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Offline Tradplorable

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What Neil Obstat and Pablo have in common
« on: September 25, 2017, 09:04:09 AM »
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  • Does it comfort you to know that you and Pablo both hate the flat earth?
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    Just wondering...


    Offline RoughAshlar

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    Re: What Neil Obstat and Pablo have in common
    « Reply #1 on: September 25, 2017, 09:32:58 AM »
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  • Does it comfort you to know that you and Pablo both hate the flat earth?
    Come on man.  Is this what your cause is reduced to? Starting a thread to throw a weak insult that could be easily flipped back to you?  Neither of you will agree.  No one will have a V8 moment. Just let it go.


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    Re: What Neil Obstat and Pablo have in common
    « Reply #2 on: September 25, 2017, 11:09:10 AM »
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  • I didn't know that Pablo hated the flat earth, as Neal does. Interesting. It's one thing to believe that the earth isn't flat. It's another thing to be so against it as to be extremely uncharitable toward those who hold a flat earth view. 
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    Re: What Neil Obstat and Pablo have in common
    « Reply #3 on: September 25, 2017, 11:45:59 AM »
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  • I like to point something out to you Tradplorable...

    Here's an example of one responding to an idea that was the result of a cognitive thought...


    It just occured to me that the hurricanes are named Joseph and Mary while this whole "Virgin Gives Birth" star alignment is going on...
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    Good point.
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    It's NOT about persons, it's about IDEAS....

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    Re: What Neil Obstat and Pablo have in common
    « Reply #4 on: September 25, 2017, 11:52:56 AM »
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    Here is something for flat-earthers to think about, that is, if they can think.
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    To make a beach ball flat, all you have to do is look at it from a distance through a pair of binoculars.
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    Any spherical object in fact looks to be flat from a distance when seen through binoculars.
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    So whatever you have, a basketball or a hot air balloon, you can cause it to become flat by using binoculars at a distance.
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    Re: What Neil Obstat and Pablo have in common
    « Reply #5 on: September 25, 2017, 11:57:32 AM »
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  • I like to point something out to you Tradplorable...

    Here's an example of one responding to an idea that was the result of a cognitive thought...

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    It's NOT about persons, it's about IDEAS....

    If it's not about persons, but ideas, then why is Neil so uncharitable towards persons? He's hysterically uncharitable towards persons AND ideas.
    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29

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    Re: What Neil Obstat and Pablo have in common
    « Reply #6 on: September 25, 2017, 12:42:47 PM »
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    Here is something for flat-earthers to think about, that is, if they can think.
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    To make a beach ball flat, all you have to do is look at it from a distance through a pair of binoculars.
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    Any spherical object in fact looks to be flat from a distance when seen through binoculars.
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    So whatever you have, a basketball or a hot air balloon, you can cause it to become flat by using binoculars at a distance.
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    It seems to me this is the basis and explanation for flat-earthers to have come out with their platitude that the moon is a flat disk.
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    They have said (not all but some) that the moon and the sun are flat disks, something like their claim to the shape of their "flat" earth.
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    You can't look at the sun through binoculars but you can definitely look at the moon.
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    So by concluding that the moon is a "flat" disk, it's no big leap to say "so is the sun."
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    Since the moon APPEARS to be flat when viewed through binoculars, and since reality is in the mind (the principle premise upon which all modern philosophy and therefore Modernism is founded and also the (false) maxim into which they can be distilled) consequently, the moon IS "flat" and so is the sun, so it should be no surprise that the earth is, as well, by their defective thinking.
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    Furthermore, they have taken this error to their explanation of the moon's phases by saying that the appearance of the changing shadow and light on the moon which we call its "phases" is not caused by the sun shining on the moon, but rather that the moon's light comes from inside the moon, somehow.
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    They have done this, it seems to me, in order to avoid the insurmountable problem that necessarily results from observing the moon's phases from the vantage point of the earth's surface, and thinking about what they mean.
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    They cannot answer the questions about the moon's phases (which I have asked in several threads on CI) so to avoid the discussion, they try to change the ground rules by making up stuff about what the moon is and what causes its phases to occur.
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    Then to top it off, since they're so revolted by their own inadequacy, they resort to accusing me of being "uncharitable." Go figure.
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    They have no theory to propose as to how this moonlight is generated, what the power source is, where the electric meter is or who pays the bill.
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    Then, going from there, they have said that the sun is an electric light bulb.
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    I'm sorry, but you can't make this stuff up.
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    That's right, the sun is an electric light bulb, and so is the moon, and by moving around over the earth like an armature rotating, they generate electricity, with one the positive pole of a huge battery and the other the negative pole.
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    The moon's light causes sickness and corruption, they say, because it takes away energy, and it has a lower temperature, which can be measured with a thermometer on your picnic table in the back yard, for example.
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    The tangled web of deception that flat-earthers weave resembles the mess that Francis is producing with all his innovative fantasies.
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    Re: What Neil Obstat and Pablo have in common
    « Reply #7 on: September 25, 2017, 12:53:16 PM »
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  • Tradplorable just lost any credibility he might have held with this bottom-of-the-barrel thread title. Pick up your dignity man, and move on to another subject.


    Offline Neil Obstat

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    Re: What Neil Obstat and Pablo have in common
    « Reply #8 on: September 25, 2017, 12:54:21 PM »
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    What Francis and flat-earthers have in common
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    Re: What Neil Obstat and Pablo have in common
    « Reply #9 on: September 25, 2017, 12:56:06 PM »
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  • Any spherical object in fact looks to be flat from a distance when seen through binoculars.
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    My eyes work fine, and when I look at the moon it looks like a ball-shaped rock.
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    However, I do not make the erroneous leap that YOU do and then assume that the earth must ALSO be a ball-shaped rock.
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    When I look at the earth, it is undoubtedly flat.

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    Re: What Neil Obstat and Pablo have in common
    « Reply #10 on: September 25, 2017, 12:56:33 PM »
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  • Tradplorable just lost any credibility he might have held with this bottom-of-the-barrel thread title. Pick up your dignity man, and move on to another subject.

    Yes, it may be the bottom of the barrel. That's where the rabid anti-flat earthers tend to dwell. It's just a case of going down to their level for awhile.
    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

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    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29


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    Re: What Neil Obstat and Pablo have in common
    « Reply #11 on: September 25, 2017, 12:56:56 PM »
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    Here is something for flat-earthers to think about, that is, if they can think.
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    To make a beach ball flat, all you have to do is look at it from a distance through a pair of binoculars.
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    Any spherical object in fact looks to be flat from a distance when seen through binoculars.
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    So whatever you have, a basketball or a hot air balloon, you can cause it to become flat by using binoculars at a distance.
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    Re: What Neil Obstat and Pablo have in common
    « Reply #12 on: September 25, 2017, 01:01:10 PM »
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  • Tradplorable just lost any credibility he might have held with this bottom-of-the-barrel thread title. Pick up your dignity man, and move on to another subject.
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    Don't you think it's revealing how flat-earthers keep digging themselves lower into the pit of un-knowing?
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    How low can they go?
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    Re: What Neil Obstat and Pablo have in common
    « Reply #13 on: September 25, 2017, 01:17:22 PM »
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  • To make a beach ball flat, all you have to do is look at it from a distance through a pair of binoculars.
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    Any spherical object in fact looks to be flat from a distance when seen through binoculars.
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    So whatever you have, a basketball or a hot air balloon, you can cause it to become flat by using binoculars at a distance.
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    "AHA, but these objects all start out flat until you Globalists breath your evil vapours into them!"

    "NOVELTY!"

    In all seriousness though, and to be fair, maybe I'm in the back of the short bus (again?) on this one, but having quite a bit of experience with optics, including binos, perhaps you could crayola this one a bit more.

    If I'm looking at a beach ball at a distance with binos, I'm just seeing a ball, depending on what you mean by "distance", just like when, for example, I'm looking at a bunch of dudes with rifles and rucks, I'm not seeing some alien landscape that is really just skin and critters.

    The focus problem might dovetail nicely into the fuzzy horizon pics often offered as "proof" however.
    "Lord, have mercy".

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    Re: What Neil Obstat and Pablo have in common
    « Reply #14 on: September 25, 2017, 01:18:34 PM »
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    Don't you think it's revealing how flat-earthers keep digging themselves lower into the pit of un-knowing?
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    How low can they go?
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    As low as the rest of us and, hate to remind you but, it ain't "Limbo"
    "Lord, have mercy".