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Offline ProtectorofOrder

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What is to be done about the heretics inside the church?
« on: January 20, 2016, 01:40:11 AM »
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  • What do you think is to be done about the heretics inside the church who have been making it go offtrack in the last century or decades? Lets say those who claim to support gαy marriage or liberalism and try to subvert the church? The many who are infesting it at the moment? How can they be dealt with and what must be done? If we are to restore the church and christendom in the process?

    After that what about the people who practice the occult/withcraft that are increasingly growing in numbers again because of the infestation of the church by heresy? Its been proven to actually have results sometimes and may have also played a part in the corruption of people today.


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    « Reply #1 on: January 20, 2016, 01:50:36 AM »
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  • The U.S.A for example was founded by freemasons and Protestants. And is the current home of Wicca, Witchcraft and the Occult. Many of those at the top practice witchcraft at a location known as Bohemian grove. Don't believe me, search it up. They truely do practice witchcraft. Even many people inside the church today's children are dabbling in witchcraft, playing with ouijia boards and etc.


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    What is to be done about the heretics inside the church?
    « Reply #2 on: January 20, 2016, 02:34:07 AM »
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  • ProtectorofOrder is a Jєω.

    This guy constantly raves against Islam and Hitler without saying the Jєω word.  I kid you not, he (according to himself) wants to start a militant SSPX league for defense against Muslims and name it the "Templars" and roam around defending people from those darn Muslims.  He calls for Islam to be banned and complains about how Koran burning is illegal in Australia where he (allegedly) lives. He also posted a picture making fun of the burka and names all sorts of anti-Catholic movements from Marxism to Leninism to Stalinism to Atheism to Darwinism to nαzιsm to Islam to Occultism to Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ to Protestantism and even Bohemian Grove but it's like he can't muster the courage to say the "Jєω" word.

    There's also his hurried writing style that gives the impression he's not interested or sincere about what he writes and just wants to spam a certain list of keywords.  

    There's only one way to deal with shills like ProtectorofOrder.   :heretic:

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    What is to be done about the heretics inside the church?
    « Reply #3 on: January 20, 2016, 02:58:28 AM »
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  • Quote from: LaughingAmigo
    ProtectorofOrder is a Jєω.

    This guy constantly raves against Islam and Hitler without saying the Jєω word.  I kid you not, he (according to himself) wants to start a militant SSPX league for defense against Muslims and name it the "Templars" and roam around defending people from those darn Muslims.  He calls for Islam to be banned and complains about how Koran burning is illegal in Australia where he (allegedly) lives. He also posted a picture making fun of the burka and names all sorts of anti-Catholic movements from Marxism to Leninism to Stalinism to Atheism to Darwinism to nαzιsm to Islam to Occultism to Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ to Protestantism and even Bohemian Grove but it's like he can't muster the courage to say the "Jєω" word.

    There's also his hurried writing style that gives the impression he's not interested or sincere about what he writes and just wants to spam a certain list of keywords.  

    There's only one way to deal with shills like ProtectorofOrder.   :heretic:
    Mentioned Israel in the other post but you can't ignore the current problems. But I rest assured at your false accusations that you will burn for sure in Hell when you die. Filthy lying tongue is going to get you to burn after this life. Your a corrupt and unrighteous satanic liar who wants to ignore all the factors put in front that must be dealt with. When Christendom starts chemical and nuclear weapons can be used on Israel and all its inhabitants will die very quickly and go to Hell when enough resources are gathered. A couple of nuclear weapons like a tsar bomb or chemical weapons will kill every inhabitant living there, its quite easy. Words are useless, war is the only war and the most effective way if they don't work.

    Restore Christendom.

    Get the resources.

    Hit Israel with nuclear bombs or chemical warfare.

    Problem solved.

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    « Reply #4 on: January 20, 2016, 03:04:04 AM »
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  • You are an arrogant and pathetic secularist degenerate unwilling for force to be used.


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    « Reply #5 on: January 20, 2016, 03:11:42 AM »
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  • Somebody who thinks the goal can be accomplished without getting rid of the obstacles in the way first stopping you. Get lost, to the post before all replies. Can you go to Israel right now with guns and a few dozen people hoping to win?

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    « Reply #6 on: January 20, 2016, 03:37:51 AM »
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  • Since the law of an eye for an eye should apply to the unrepentant I now have the right to refer to you as a rape apologist for ignoring the horrific rapes in Europe recently by the Muslim refugees/immigrants. In a war/battle if you only focus on the one enemy infront of you who is leading you are not going to see the others coming up from behind or your sides, are you?

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    « Reply #7 on: January 20, 2016, 11:43:59 AM »
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  • Quote from: ProtectorofOrder
    Quote from: LaughingAmigo
    ProtectorofOrder is a Jєω.

    This guy constantly raves against Islam and Hitler without saying the Jєω word.  I kid you not, he (according to himself) wants to start a militant SSPX league for defense against Muslims and name it the "Templars" and roam around defending people from those darn Muslims.  He calls for Islam to be banned and complains about how Koran burning is illegal in Australia where he (allegedly) lives. He also posted a picture making fun of the burka and names all sorts of anti-Catholic movements from Marxism to Leninism to Stalinism to Atheism to Darwinism to nαzιsm to Islam to Occultism to Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ to Protestantism and even Bohemian Grove but it's like he can't muster the courage to say the "Jєω" word.

    There's also his hurried writing style that gives the impression he's not interested or sincere about what he writes and just wants to spam a certain list of keywords.  

    There's only one way to deal with shills like ProtectorofOrder.   :heretic:
    Mentioned Israel in the other post but you can't ignore the current problems. But I rest assured at your false accusations that you will burn for sure in Hell when you die. Filthy lying tongue is going to get you to burn after this life. Your a corrupt and unrighteous satanic liar who wants to ignore all the factors put in front that must be dealt with. When Christendom starts chemical and nuclear weapons can be used on Israel and all its inhabitants will die very quickly and go to Hell when enough resources are gathered. A couple of nuclear weapons like a tsar bomb or chemical weapons will kill every inhabitant living there, its quite easy. Words are useless, war is the only war and the most effective way if they don't work.

    Restore Christendom.

    Get the resources.

    Hit Israel with nuclear bombs or chemical warfare.

    Problem solved.


    That is the most evil thing I may have ever heard in my entire life. So, you're advocating terrorism to restore "Christendom"? Nuclear weapons on innocent millions? You make me sick.
    Remember O most gracious Virgin Mary...


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    « Reply #8 on: January 21, 2016, 02:27:16 AM »
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  • Quote from: JezusDeKoning
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    Quote from: LaughingAmigo
    ProtectorofOrder is a Jєω.

    This guy constantly raves against Islam and Hitler without saying the Jєω word.  I kid you not, he (according to himself) wants to start a militant SSPX league for defense against Muslims and name it the "Templars" and roam around defending people from those darn Muslims.  He calls for Islam to be banned and complains about how Koran burning is illegal in Australia where he (allegedly) lives. He also posted a picture making fun of the burka and names all sorts of anti-Catholic movements from Marxism to Leninism to Stalinism to Atheism to Darwinism to nαzιsm to Islam to Occultism to Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ to Protestantism and even Bohemian Grove but it's like he can't muster the courage to say the "Jєω" word.

    There's also his hurried writing style that gives the impression he's not interested or sincere about what he writes and just wants to spam a certain list of keywords.  

    There's only one way to deal with shills like ProtectorofOrder.   :heretic:
    Mentioned Israel in the other post but you can't ignore the current problems. But I rest assured at your false accusations that you will burn for sure in Hell when you die. Filthy lying tongue is going to get you to burn after this life. Your a corrupt and unrighteous satanic liar who wants to ignore all the factors put in front that must be dealt with. When Christendom starts chemical and nuclear weapons can be used on Israel and all its inhabitants will die very quickly and go to Hell when enough resources are gathered. A couple of nuclear weapons like a tsar bomb or chemical weapons will kill every inhabitant living there, its quite easy. Words are useless, war is the only war and the most effective way if they don't work.

    Restore Christendom.

    Get the resources.

    Hit Israel with nuclear bombs or chemical warfare.

    Problem solved.


    That is the most evil thing I may have ever heard in my entire life. So, you're advocating terrorism to restore "Christendom"? Nuclear weapons on innocent millions? You make me sick.
    What about the millions of innocent people, women and children they've killed? I'm following the law of an eye for an eye. What was given must be delivered back if they refuse to repent. Also I may think or say harsh things when I am angry or offended keep in mind. Can't tell whether I even mean it or not until it ends, just looking at any false accusation enrages me. Honestly whenever a person says something false to hurt me I sometimes feel like punching them in the teeth to teach a lesson or even tearing out their tongue but I'm not allowed to do it.

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    What is to be done about the heretics inside the church?
    « Reply #9 on: January 21, 2016, 02:37:58 AM »
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  • Anger is very hard to control yourself, saw the laws present that stop you from acting with your hand out of it. Can't do anything about it because its too strong, have to express it in the form of words. The atheist troll before was truly disgusting.

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    « Reply #10 on: January 21, 2016, 04:11:31 AM »
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  • I don't know much, but the training of priests seems really important. The pre-Conciliar popes strongly advocated St. Thomas to be the teacher of all seminarians, as his principles are those that best refute the principles of Modernism. We've seen the rise of Modernism / neo-Modernism in the seminaries to a very great degree & a corresponding abandonment of St. Thomas. Now, a lot of these priests that one would like to call heretics may not be formal heretics, i.e. they may not be purposefully setting up their minds against the Church. I imagine a lot of them think that their liberal theology is just what the Church wants, because that is what they learnt in the seminaries. In other words, they may not all be malicious, just extremely poorly-formed in theology.

    The theological training of priests is of the highest importance because it affects everything the priest thinks, says, and does. If a priest, for example, is given the vague impression by his theology professor that hell is empty because everybody who is nice goes to heaven, and everybody is nice, that will have a great impact on how he acts as a priest. He will see no urgent need to convert souls. He will see no urgent need to encourage piety and devotion in his flock. He himself will perhaps lose devotion or grow cold, because he doesn't realise the urgent necessity of it for salvation. He will lose, perhaps, a sense of reverence for the liturgy because he no sees how this is intimately tied to our sanctification and thus our salvation. He's a Pelagian, perhaps without knowing it.

    At Vatican II, the liberals were a very organised group of dissidents. The pope allowed the liberals to have a voice. In order to turn the Church back, what will be needed is another ecuмenical Council where the traditionalists are a very organised group of dissidents, and with a sympathetic pope who would grant these traditionalists a voice. What caused the liberals to be so organised and so zealous, and the pope to be so sympathetic them, was the sense that the Modern world was full of untold promises and joys that, if the Church could only accommodate itself to the Modern world, will be bestowed upon all Catholics.* Therefore, what will cause the traditionalist counter-Revolution, is a strong sense of disillusionment with the modern world, a strong sense that separation of Church & State is NOT the ideal form of government, and that the liberal peace of tolerance of all creeds/religions is a false peace, and a return to "Catholic supremacism" (the vivid awareness that the Holy Catholic Church is alone the mystical body of Christ and the ark of salvation).

    * to see this exuberant optimism for the modern world, read Pope John XXIII's first encyclical, Pacem in Terris. It has a completely different tone to the encyclicals of his predecessors. It sounds a lot like the docuмents of VII.
    http://w2.vatican.va/content/john-xxiii/en/encyclicals/docuмents/hf_j-xxiii_enc_11041963_pacem.html
    Here's a quote from the same pope's opening speech of VII:
    "We feel we must disagree with those prophets of gloom, who are always forecasting disaster, as though the end of the world were at hand."
    These "prophets of gloom" include the pre-VII popes. They were all warned against the evils and threats of the modern world. Pope John XXIII was the first to abandon this repulsion for the modern, liberal world for a warm hug. In summary, the modernist theologians and those of similar mind, got caught up in the revolutionary enthusiasm of the post-French Revolution era, with the sense that there was a bright new future for mankind just around the corner. It's practically an abandonment of the doctrine of Original Sin and the truth that, without God, man can do nothing, and that: "If the LORD does not build a house, then those who build it work in vain."


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    What is to be done about the heretics inside the church?
    « Reply #11 on: January 22, 2016, 12:08:17 AM »
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    « Reply #12 on: January 22, 2016, 04:40:58 AM »
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    Something tells me that Frank would get kind of heated over your idea, Poche.

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    « Reply #13 on: January 23, 2016, 12:53:04 AM »
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    Something tells me that Frank would get kind of heated over your idea, Poche.


    He can light the first match. You bring the hot dogs and I will bring the marsh mellows.

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    « Reply #14 on: January 23, 2016, 01:27:59 AM »
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    Something tells me that Frank would get kind of heated over your idea, Poche.


    He can light the first match. You bring the hot dogs and I will bring the marsh mellows.


    His legacy is being the friendly hippie.  He wouldn't light a match for anybody other than a trad clinging to 1,958 years of Catholicism and counting his prayers.