Author Topic: What do liberals and neoconservatives call their opponents... (Read 2302 times)

Traditional Guy 20 · « **on:** August 11, 2012, 06:58:37 AM »

Liberals:

Fascists

Racists

nαzιs

αnтι-ѕємιтєs

Unpatriotic

Bigots

Sexists

Nativists

Xenophobes

Homophobes

Neoconservatives:

Fascists

αnтι-ѕємιтєs

Unpatriotic

Isolationists

Protectionists

Nativists

Xenophobes

Racists

nαzιs

Sexists

Homophobes

Bigots

Socialists

So what exactly is the difference between the two?

Nothing, they both come from leftist movements.

guitarplucker · « **Reply #1 on:** August 11, 2012, 09:13:48 AM »

misogynist
ageist

RomanCatholic1953 · « **Reply #2 on:** August 11, 2012, 09:54:08 AM »

It is because name calling works, and has a shock value.
It is deliberate and intentional policy by the ruling elite.

Another reason, society is so dumb down because of the
faulty educational system, and the mass media. All
deliberate policy.

Also, the masses have been brainwashed if it is on the TV,
it has to be true.
They were saying this starting in the 1960's.
All deliberate policy.

Intelligent conversations unless it follows the
prevailing political correctness, is a thing of the past.

This is why Intelligent people comes to forums such as
CathInfo.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #3 on:** August 11, 2012, 11:30:24 AM »

And what are we to make of Trads who continually resort to many of these labels, for having opinions that were typical of Catholics in the past?

Traditional Guy 20 · « **Reply #4 on:** August 11, 2012, 01:01:25 PM »

Quote from: Telesphorus

And what are we to make of Trads who continually resort to many of these labels, for having opinions that were typical of Catholics in the past?

Well I would assume those "Trads" are influenced by leftist, liberal, Trotskyite, Social Democrat, socialist, or Marxist thought.

Nishant · « **Reply #5 on:** August 11, 2012, 01:06:43 PM »

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leftist, liberal, Trotskyite, Social Democrat, socialist, or Marxist

Uh, don't you think you might be stepping on your own point about namecalling?

I don't call people names, but for my part, I'm a Roman Catholic. I couldn't care less what this or that political, social or economic ideology proposed if it deviated from the whole spectrum of Catholic teaching.

Traditional Guy 20 · « **Reply #6 on:** August 11, 2012, 01:11:22 PM »

Quote from: Nishant2011

Uh, don't you think you might be stepping on your own point about namecalling?

I don't call people names, but for my part, I'm a Roman Catholic. I couldn't care less what this or that political, social or economic ideology proposed if it deviated from the whole spectrum of Catholic teaching.

No there is an actual policy of these movements that people fall under. Feminism comes from the Frankfurtian Marxist School and Jєωιѕн women started the movement, and even goes back to Marx and Engels. Calling people fascists, nαzιs, and αnтι-ѕємιтєs come from the Marxist movement. The whole racist, xenophobe, and nativist labels were created by the leftist movements. Oh yes and "conservatives" call "protectionists" socialists because Republicans only care about Corporate America.

And you can think of yourself as Catholic all you want, but these movements are the antithesis of any descent morality.

Traditional Guy 20 · « **Reply #7 on:** August 11, 2012, 01:19:52 PM »

To emphasize my point:

Today's liberals come from the New Left started by the Frankfurt School and Herbert Marcuse emphasized by the counterculture.

Today's neoconservatives come from the Trotskyist-Social Democratic Left and are "old-school FDR liberals" who migrated to the Republican Party after they thought McGovern and Carter were too soft on the Soviet Union.

Nishant · « **Reply #8 on:** August 11, 2012, 01:22:52 PM »

To think "Jєωs/Marxists/This or that group believes and pushes X, therefore I should believe not X" is an almost certain way to fall into an error, as there are often opposite heteredox extremes against the narrow path of Catholic orthodoxy. I get my beliefs from the teaching of Holy Church and her Tradition, and reject both. Read Summi Pontificatus, on the unity of human society, by Pope Pius XII and Mit Brenneder Sorge by Pope Pius XI and you will see that simply opposing one error is no guarantee of being in the truth.

Traditional Guy 20 · « **Reply #9 on:** August 11, 2012, 01:29:26 PM »

Quote from: Nishant2011

To think "Jєωs/Marxists/This or that group believes and pushes X, therefore I should believe not X" is an almost to fall into an error, as there are often opposite heteredox extremes against the narrow path of Catholic orthodoxy. I get my beliefs from the teaching of Holy Church and her Tradition, and reject both.

Hmm mmm so when the "Church" taught that ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs could be let into the priesthood and turned a blind eye to the sɛҳuąƖ abuse scandal, was that okay for you? How about John XXIII's little encyclical Mater et Magistra which advocated an "international solution."

And speaking of which let us look at the teachings of the Church and a humane economy:

Well there's Rerum Novarum for one.

Nishant · « **Reply #10 on:** August 11, 2012, 01:45:42 PM »

I do not see what ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ pederasty in the priesthood has to do with this, but yes, Rerum Novarum by Pope Leo XIII and Quadragesimo Anno by Pope Pius XI are the chief traditional Catholic Encyclicals on matters relating to labor and capital, the treatment of employees, fair working conditions, the right to private property etc etc.

Traditional Guy 20 · « **Reply #11 on:** August 11, 2012, 02:00:15 PM »

Quote from: Nishant2011

I do not see what ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ pederasty in the priesthood has to do with this...

I'm saying the Church turned a blind eye and let it happen, all according to their "teachings."

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but yes, Rerum Novarum by Pope Leo XIII and Quadragesimo Anno by Pope Pius XI are the chief traditional Catholic Encyclicals on matters relating to labor and capital, the treatment of employees, fair working conditions, the right to private property etc etc.

Yes and the encyclical argues for private property rights, but also that the man is entitled to a "living wage" to support his family and the right to form unions.

Belloc · « **Reply #12 on:** August 13, 2012, 07:34:55 AM »

to add to list, there was at one time "pablem puking" of Mort Downey, jr.....

also: appeaser and Isolationist...

Traditional Guy 20 · « **Reply #13 on:** August 13, 2012, 07:36:14 AM »

Quote from: Belloc

to add to list, there was at one time "pablem puking" of Mort Downey, jr.....

also: appeaser and Isolationist...

Ah yes appeaser is good but I already had isolationist on the list. :P

Belloc · « **Reply #14 on:** August 13, 2012, 08:41:09 AM »

sorry, missed that........

With Romney's new "believe in AMerica" slogan, perhaps soon on the list "America Unbeliever" or "unbeleiver in America"