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What America did to Japan before World War II
« on: May 26, 2012, 06:11:03 AM »
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  • Perhaps if we see what America did to Japan we can see the events that lead directly to Pearl Harbor.

    1. America forced Japan to break out of her isolation and open up to U.S. trade with the arrival of Commodore Perry.

    2. At the urging of the Americans the British severed the Anglo-Japenese alliance, insulting and isolationg Japan, since Japan always respected Britain for being an island empire like themselves, and the British in turn had a moral authority over the Japenese. This led directly to Japenese militarization and imperialism.

    3. After the fall of France in June 1940 Japan made a move on French colonies taking the northern part of French Indochina. FDR responded by cutting off steel and scrap metal to Japan.

    4. At FDR's urging British Malaya and the Dutch East Indies cut off trade with Japan, after the ultimatum for Japan to get out of Manchuria and French Indochina, and the United States gave Japan an oil embargo. Since Japan relied on oil, tin, rubber, etc. FDR was forcing Japan to give up an empire she had fought with intense blood and sweat to keep.

    5. FDR and his Adminstration ignored Japan's offer twice to negotiate, at the urging of Cordell Hull, with Prince Koneye. This lead directly to the peace party in Japan to be ousted and the victory of the war party that promised to stand up to the United States.

    6. Japan, knowing that it needed oil to survive, saw the Dutch East Indies as a vital way to get it. However Japan knew that any move would bring the U.S. Navy to try and stop them. Japan saw the U.S. fleet, that FDR 'conveniently' I might add, put in Pearl Harbor, and decided to strike, hoping that they could quickly show America their power and get the United States to respect them.

    Of course anyone who knows what FDR and his Jєωιѕн and Communist advisors in his Adminstration wanted would know that the Administration saw a back door to war with Japan as the only way to go to war against Germany. And so this was the purpose of inciting Germany and Japan to "fire the first shots" against the United States. There have been numerous reports of FDR and General George Marshall just waiting for the reports of Japan to attack Pearl Harbor, suggesting they knew what was going to happen.


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    « Reply #1 on: May 26, 2012, 09:51:35 AM »
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  • Very interesting premise.
    Stir up within Thy Church, we beseech Thee, O Lord, the Spirit with which blessed Josaphat, Thy Martyr and Bishop, was filled, when he laid down his life for his sheep: so that, through his intercession, we too may be moved and strengthen by the same Spir


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    « Reply #2 on: May 26, 2012, 01:31:38 PM »
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  • My father-in-law was a Pearl Harbor survivor.  When the movie came out, about Pearl Harbor, those veterans had free admission to the movie.  About half way through many got up and left the theater. Dad said it was full of lies.  There was also talk that the US (who?) knew 60 days in advance that we were to be hit at Pearl Harbor.  Then Cecil Ball of the Pearl Harbor survivors on PHX, AZ said to me when Dad died in 2007 that the US knew 6 months in advance.  And these are the things I heard.  The US wanted them to strike first and the fleet of ships and planes were sitting in a way to be hit well, like in clusters rather than scattered in case of being hit.  

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    « Reply #3 on: May 26, 2012, 02:13:26 PM »
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    Of course anyone who knows what FDR and his Jєωιѕн and Communist advisors in his Adminstration wanted would know that the Administration saw a back door to war with Japan as the only way to go to war against Germany. And so this was the purpose of inciting Germany and Japan to "fire the first shots" against the United States. There have been numerous reports of FDR and General George Marshall just waiting for the reports of Japan to attack Pearl Harbor, suggesting they knew what was going to happen.


    I read multiple books regarding this once, as I was very interested in the subject. I came to the conclusion that while FDR wanted war, and may have left the US forces in the Pacific as a whole vulnerable to attack, neither him nor anyone else had actual knowledge that Pearl Harbor was going to be attacked.

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    « Reply #4 on: May 26, 2012, 02:14:24 PM »
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  • Quote from: songbird
    My father-in-law was a Pearl Harbor survivor.  When the movie came out, about Pearl Harbor, those veterans had free admission to the movie.  About half way through many got up and left the theater. Dad said it was full of lies.  There was also talk that the US (who?) knew 60 days in advance that we were to be hit at Pearl Harbor.  Then Cecil Ball of the Pearl Harbor survivors on PHX, AZ said to me when Dad died in 2007 that the US knew 6 months in advance.  And these are the things I heard.  The US wanted them to strike first and the fleet of ships and planes were sitting in a way to be hit well, like in clusters rather than scattered in case of being hit.  


    Because they were more concerned about sabotage than aerial attack. Given the information they had, this was a correct strategy.


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    « Reply #5 on: May 26, 2012, 06:23:46 PM »
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  • Quote from: brainglitch
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    Of course anyone who knows what FDR and his Jєωιѕн and Communist advisors in his Adminstration wanted would know that the Administration saw a back door to war with Japan as the only way to go to war against Germany. And so this was the purpose of inciting Germany and Japan to "fire the first shots" against the United States. There have been numerous reports of FDR and General George Marshall just waiting for the reports of Japan to attack Pearl Harbor, suggesting they knew what was going to happen.


    I read multiple books regarding this once, as I was very interested in the subject. I came to the conclusion that while FDR wanted war, and may have left the US forces in the Pacific as a whole vulnerable to attack, neither him nor anyone else had actual knowledge that Pearl Harbor was going to be attacked.


    Why even meddle in Japan's business at all to begin with if you don't want Japan to fire the first shot? I am about to create another thread about FDR also interfering in Germany's business as well, trying to get both to fire the first shot. You need to stop reading the history books, devised by the court historians of FDR. FDR may be considered the "third-greatest President" and a "great man" by our dumbed-down populace but he was actually a scuмbag.

    FDR's cabinet was full of Jєωs and Communists who wanted FDR to get the United States into the war against Germany. The only way was to go to war against Japan. And yes read some books and read the accounts of FDR and George Marshall just waiting for the news of Pearl Harbor.

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    « Reply #6 on: May 26, 2012, 06:29:13 PM »
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  • World War II- the war that was a mighty blow to our civilization

    Definitely true!

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    « Reply #7 on: May 26, 2012, 09:38:02 PM »
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  • Point number 2

    One of my political science professors talked about how America subtly threatened annexation of Canada if Britain did not break its alliance with Japan.  Britain was in no position to defend Canada.
    can't tell if ninja

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    « Reply #8 on: May 29, 2012, 12:21:01 PM »
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  • Quote from: brainglitch
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    Of course anyone who knows what FDR and his Jєωιѕн and Communist advisors in his Adminstration wanted would know that the Administration saw a back door to war with Japan as the only way to go to war against Germany. And so this was the purpose of inciting Germany and Japan to "fire the first shots" against the United States. There have been numerous reports of FDR and General George Marshall just waiting for the reports of Japan to attack Pearl Harbor, suggesting they knew what was going to happen.


    I read multiple books regarding this once, as I was very interested in the subject. I came to the conclusion that while FDR wanted war, and may have left the US forces in the Pacific as a whole vulnerable to attack, neither him nor anyone else had actual knowledge that Pearl Harbor was going to be attacked.


    Do you think its a pure coincidence that not a single Aircraft Carrier was in Port when the Air Raid took place?  I dont. Old Battleships and Cruisers and Planes that had outlived their usefulness.

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    « Reply #9 on: May 29, 2012, 01:57:52 PM »
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  • I'm starting to see World War II as "Evil vs. Evil".  It's true that we kicked Hitler's butt but we also aided an abetted Stalin.  Evil vs. evil.

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    « Reply #10 on: May 29, 2012, 01:58:49 PM »
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  • The American-Israeli way of war is and always has been deceit. Deceit is literally the law for Jєωs- they are commanded to deceive and usurp, to place deception above everything else (тαℓмυd). Look at the Mossad's motto- they openly admit it. False-flag, "they attacked first" operations have been the Jєωιѕн way of war for a long, long time. Almost every American war started this way- unless I am wrong and the Philippines attacked us? Or Guam? Or Puerto Rico? Or Vietnam? Or Korea? Or the Banana Republics? Or any of the other tiny, pathetic nations that the mighty, brave US military has attacked and conquered (when they aren't getting their asses handed to them by said tiny, pathetic nations, like in Vietnam and Korea)? Whenever anyone "attacks" America, I immediately look into what that country or group has that Israel wants, or what the Jєωs and Israel think about that group. Also, follow the money, of course. I remember, when the Cold War was dying down, how quickly the enemy changed from "Russkies" to "Terrorists". All the action movies changed their bad guys from Commies to Terrorists.  It started slowly and in small steps, as all media propaganda does- first movies like "Die Hard", where the bad guys are Terrorists (German, oddly enough- WWII was still big movie business), then small news reports about "Terrorism" in the Middle East. Ah, now we are getting to where they were leading us. Sudden, massive increase of "terrorism" related news and media reports, with immediate propaganda (movies) made to back them up. Soon the Army uniforms changed from green to brown, and I knew we would be in the desert for a long time. (Want to predict American foreign policy- look at the army uniforms! Why waste money turning all your uniforms brown if you don't plan to hunker down in the middle east for a while?). Yep, then the people are ready to believe what you have wanted them to since the last war ended- Another enemy threatens! This one also happens to be one which is especially hated by the Jєωs! Etc. It's so obvious and blatant to me, but of course I don't watch TV or any major media, so I'm probably less brainwashed than many.


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    « Reply #11 on: May 29, 2012, 04:18:30 PM »
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  • You're right: the Jєωs dominated America's foreign policy during the Cold War and to today so you'll notice it goes from World War II nαzιs (which still continues today), to Russians during the Cold War, to Islamic terrorists, etc. (And of course the World War II war propaganda movies dealing with Japan).

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    « Reply #12 on: December 07, 2012, 04:47:52 PM »
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  • BUMP, especially for the "day which will live in infamy." :wink:

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    « Reply #13 on: December 07, 2012, 05:42:54 PM »
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  • Agree that FDR provoked Pearl Harbor, but the Japanese had been
    gearing-up to be a military power 20 years prior to WWII.





                 Japanese - Russian Neutrality Pact - Signed 8 months before Pearl Harbor


    Their foreign policy was directed towards territorial expansion just as the colonial powers had done in Asia.

    There was a huge military technology transfer from Germany to Japan from the early 1920's. A major earthquake set-back Japan's military program by three years.

    While, FDR (a.k.a Rosenfeld) was America's leader with his "ʝʊdɛօ-masonic plan", so too were the Japanese hell-bent on playing a part in it.  

    Check the Protocols of Zion which included this in their master plan
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    « Reply #14 on: December 07, 2012, 05:57:51 PM »
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  • Actually, that was part of it, but another reason for the pact was that Japanese ground forces faced the Russians and fared poorly against them.
    "In our time more than ever before, the greatest asset of the evil-disposed is the cowardice and weakness of good men, and all the vigour of Satan's reign is due to the easy-going weakness of Catholics." -St. Pius X

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