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Offline Gag Hogan Ilium

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We never went to the Moon - proof
« Reply #15 on: June 01, 2016, 08:18:56 PM »
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  • I also like how NASA keeps postponing their manned Mars missions.

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    We never went to the Moon - proof
    « Reply #16 on: June 02, 2016, 10:49:18 AM »
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  • Another very SHORT video showing we never went to the moon. The words to the song are telling as you watch the NASA nonsense.



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    We never went to the Moon - proof
    « Reply #17 on: June 02, 2016, 11:19:33 AM »
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  • Satellites are another NASA hoax

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    We never went to the Moon - proof
    « Reply #18 on: June 02, 2016, 11:24:08 AM »
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  • Another shorter video proving beyond doubt that satellites do not exist.


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    Happy 50th Anniversary!/Re: Moon Landings - No Hard Science [...]
    « Reply #19 on: July 21, 2019, 12:58:41 AM »
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  • Here's wishing CathInfo members, readers, and of course its owner-moderator, a happy 50th anniversary [*] of the Landing on the Moon by the U.S. lunar-lander Eagle of Apollo 11.


    For myself I do not believe it was faked [:]

    Having lived through the time, I remember there was great competition between the USA and the Soviet Union in the 'space race.'

    I also "lived through the time".  I definitely do not believed that the Moon Landing was faked.  It's a tremendous advantage to have had years to assimilate geopolitical events and their interconnections over many years as they were happening, rather than being limited to trying to absorb the information and make connections ad hoc, when it's aged into becoming a history of a time before you were born.

    Yes, great competition arose between the U.S.A. and the Soviet Union, despite having been at-least nominal allies in World War II, in pretty much every aspect of life that could be motivated by national pride or political ideology.  So when Soviet Premier Nikita Khruschëv broadcast his threat "we will bury you", we were surprised only by its bluntness.  We and our world of "the time" survived, undoubtedly only with continual infusions of huge amounts of God's graces, notwithstanding contrary opinions of the Godless communists.

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    Note *: It was still the anniversary date July 20 until too many minutes ago at the CathInfo server-bunker in the Central Daylight Time-Zone.  But what in [Hades] is up with the "Docuмent expired error message that I just got while making my last few edits before posting!?  [Expletives deleted!]  It's really no comfort that the correct date as reckoned by Greenwich Time is July 21.  Well, I hope it was a happy anniversary for one and all.


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    Re: Happy 50th Anniversary!/Re: Moon Landings - No Hard Science [...]
    « Reply #20 on: July 21, 2019, 03:18:03 PM »
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  • Here's wishing CathInfo members, readers, and of course its owner-moderator, a happy 50th anniversary [*] of the Landing on the Moon by the U.S. lunar-lander Eagle of Apollo 11.

    I also "lived through the time".  I definitely do not believed that the Moon Landing was faked. 
    Having "lived through the time" of (Free - masonic) NASA's great psy op means only that those of us who "lived through the time" are more brainwashed than those who did not.
    Only those who, with an open mind, have examined both sides of the issue, are competent to give an INFORMED opinion. Uninformed opinions tend to provide support only for the success of a psy op.
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    Re: We never went to the Moon - proof
    « Reply #21 on: July 26, 2019, 09:15:44 PM »
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    Matthew: And there is LOTS of good evidence here that all the moon landings were a hoax.
    Look at NASA’s own site. There is little on it, IMO, that suggests that even they believe we ever went above low Earth orbit. Here’s part of their mission statement:


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    A Flexible Path
    This is the beginning of a new era in space exploration in which NASA has been challenged to develop systems and capabilities required to explore beyond low-Earth orbit, including destinations such as translunar space, near-Earth asteroids and eventually Mars.
    Why doesn't this statement at least mention that at one time they did have that capability?

    In fact, it now appears, a NASA space craft may not even have traveled half the way to low Earth orbit’s peak of 1200 miles.

    They want to keep the NASA program going, because over the decades it’s been a money magnet, keeping the space industry alive and making lots of contractors and sub contractors happy.

    NASA is attempting, I believe, to provide a soft landing for the American public. They don’t openly state that we never went to the moon, but they can’t bring themselves to confess unequivocally that we didn’t. That would dry up the funding fast.

    Astronaut Don Pettit makes breathtakingly silly remarks about our inability to do presently what was accomplished in 1969 forty years ago. He’d go back to the moon “in a nanosecond,” But the problem is, he says, “we do not have the technology to do that anymore.” This can only mean that the dog ate it.

    Another female NASA spokeman and astronaut dreams excitedly about leaving lower earth orbit for the first time. “This is really the beginning,” she says, “of humans leaving lower earth orbit.” Only the beginning? Really?

    NASA astronaut Terry Virts, now retired, testifies that lower earth orbit “is the farthest we can go for now.” Why does he make no effort to quality that remark by reminding us, like Don Pettit, that we once had the technology, but that somehow it got away from us?

     
    This is NASA’s way, I imagine, of coming clean without really coming clean.

     

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    Re: We never went to the Moon - proof
    « Reply #22 on: July 27, 2019, 06:10:54 PM »
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    Re: We never went to the Moon - proof
    « Reply #23 on: July 27, 2019, 09:42:19 PM »
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  • Another promotional video for your viewing pleasure.  Orion is the latest NASA lie.  Apollo was the one they tried to put over on the world 50 years ago. 'Jack Armstrong,' NASA's all-American boy tells us how this will be done.  No old "science stuff" this time.  Orion is state of the art.  Orion is brand spanking new.  The dog ate Apollo technology.  But no matter.  That same dog will choke on this one.  They'll really crack through the Van Allen belts this time, and it probably won't cost the taxpayers much in excess of a trillion dollars.
    The neo-sspx could not have made a video glossier and slicker than this one.   Enjoy!


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    Re: We never went to the Moon - proof
    « Reply #24 on: July 27, 2019, 10:19:21 PM »
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  • Overall interesting. Seems the originator of this conspiracy theory doesn't seem very credible.
    I'm not that hard on Kaysing, who is what the above clip was about. Sibrel is dishonest, though, and it's difficult not to think Sibrel is a con man.

    Kaysing was a writer. He wrote on a lot of different topics. Motorcycling, a survival manual, travel books, and a cookbook. Price Stern Sloan (PSS) was a publisher of humor and parody works, and apparently in 1974, they agreed with Kaysing to write a satire on the moon landings and gave him a small advance. When they saw his manuscript, they called it a collection of notes and said it didn't work out. (A letter from PSS to that effect is in the book he eventually self-published.)

    What seems to have happened is that he started to believe the stuff he was creating - that was supposed to be parody/satire. Although he did work as a technical writer, he really had no technical expertise. People with no technical training can sometimes get lost in narratives about technology that are disconnected from reality. I know a few other people with humanities backgrounds who similarly got lost. Most of these people have English degrees, like Kaysing, and I suspect that's significant. (However, I may have a selection bias because I know a lot more people with degrees in English or comparative literature degrees than with degrees in philosophy or art or another humanity.)

    Offline Clemens Maria

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    Re: We never went to the Moon - proof
    « Reply #25 on: July 28, 2019, 12:48:09 PM »
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  • I make no judgment about Kaysing’s character (or Sribel’s for that matter).  I just note that key pieces of evidence are not verified by publicly available evidence.  E.g. the anonymous pilot who saw the capsule dumped out of a c-5 over the Pacific.  Same idea as the jfk windshield with a bullet hole exiting into the limo.  We can’t verify that information.  We simply have to trust the conspiracy theory.  And then as soon as you start trying to interpret the behavior of astronauts then the credibility of the whole theory goes right into a dumpster.  If it really was a fake, there should be endless amounts of corroborating evidence.  There were hundreds of thousands of people involved for crying out loud!  It would be easier to just go to the moon than to fake it.


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    Re: We never went to the Moon - proof
    « Reply #26 on: July 28, 2019, 02:49:05 PM »
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  • 21st Century Wired posted an article in 2015 that I found very interesting, and it seems to reinforce the position that I and millions of others take. https://21stcenturywire.com/2015/03/14/video-nasas-orion-engineer-admits-they-cant-get-past-van-allen-radiation-belts/

    The article quotes from a NASA Orion engineer (‘Jack Armstrong’), whose slick video has already been posted. So I’ll not put it up again. Those who do “science stuff” can go back and look at it if they’re interested.

    There's another NASA guy does videos regularly. He likes to do them in a deep forest setting for some reason.  In one of these videos, (at least), he discusses the Van Allen Belts, and explains how the original Apollo astronauts, on six separate missions, from 1969 to Dec. 1972, got through these belts successfully, going and coming, a collective, whopping 12 times. I mean, talk about what NASA could do with relatively weak Apollo technology, which has since been discarded, i.e. lost? mislaid? in the trash out in back? Who knows? In any case, Orion will make future space travel and exploration a slam dunk.

    This fellow takes us through the structural make up of the VA Belts. They’re highly charged particles, e.g. alpha particles, beta particles, electrons, free protons, etc. Very dangerous and potentially lethal stuff. They surround earth, in a high state of flux, depending upon the sun’s activity and a wide variety of other factors. These particles take the shape of two donut-shaped electro-magneic belts, held somewhat close by the earth’s molten iron core. At times, during especially active periods of the sun, a third belt will appear.

    I think, generally speaking,I have only a stupid Goy’s understanding of this particular explanation of space science Kabbalah. But that’s all the “science stuff” I plan to do today. It’s so exhausting.

    Anyway, this NASA guy points to areas in the Van Allen Belts which contain lower amounts of dangerous radiation. The trick is to find those regions of weaker activity, and barrel through them quickly. That’s what the Apollo capsules did, so says this NASA spokesman.

    Yep, using football terminology, the NASA offense juked and jived, Barry Sanders-like, through the Van Allen defense. No one laid a hand on them. Then they came back up the field and did the same thing, 12 times in all. It was a complete rout of the Van Allen Team.

    If you believe this story, then you probably believe that Francis is Catholic, and that the New Mass is an improvement upon the Old.

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    Re: We never went to the Moon - proof
    « Reply #27 on: July 28, 2019, 04:35:32 PM »
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  • I haven’t read any of this thread, but just wanted to go on record expressing my serious doubt that we ever put a man on the moon.
    Rom 5: 20 - "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."

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    Re: We never went to the Moon - proof
    « Reply #28 on: July 28, 2019, 08:17:17 PM »
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  • Not every wacky conspiracy theory is science-based so the problem isn’t an inability to work through the equations, etc.  The problem as you say is fear but also it is an inability to make good judgments about who is worthy of trust. Kaysing isn’t trustworthy.  Sribel isn’t trustworthy.  That isn’t to say that the status quo is always correct.  But any theory which requires us to believe that many thousands of otherwise upstanding people are maliciously lying is a non-starter for me.  That’s not a credible position.

    If on the other hand you can show that the existing evidence is being misinterpreted, that’s a completely different situation.  I think evolution is a scientific hoax not because all the scientists are lying but because they have been trained to misinterpret the evidence.  That’s completely different from accusing all the astronauts and nasa engineers and management of being malicious liars.  The theory is complete BS.  Same thing with flat earth.  Everyone isn’t lying.  If your pet theory requires belief that everyone is lying, it’s a sure sign that it is a false theory.

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    Re: We never went to the Moon - proof
    « Reply #29 on: July 28, 2019, 08:22:50 PM »
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  • I haven’t read any of this thread, but just wanted to go on record expressing my serious doubt that we ever put a man on the moon.

    Agreed.  While I lack absolute certainty, in my mind I would give it a less-than-one-percent chance that we did.